139 Forum Posts by "MonochromeMonitor"
In the event of a shutdown, even the military won't be paid. I wouldn't expect the congress to be furloughed, they just shouldn't be paid... they are the fuckers who caused this...
An infuriating tidbit:
In the event of a shutdown an estimated million federal workers will be furloughed without pay, while the jobs of our dear representatives will be unaffected. How delightful.
I apologize, I didn't mean to be micromanaging.
Back on topic.
Government Shutdown: Will occur, if it occurs, on October 1st if congress fails to fund the government on Sept. 30th for the upcoming fiscal year. That means they have week to somehow pass the house's defunding Obama plan through the senate clean (meaning untouched, sent back) or somehow reach a compromise that both senate and house will agree upon.
Government Default: We will need to raise the debt ceiling some time in mid-October or we'll default.
Unless you are on your death bed with heart disease and stress of fighting Ganon would kill you there's no such thing.
Everyone knows the coolest gamers are the oldest, they're the really devoted ones.
I respect a 50-year-old gamer immensely more than a 13-year-old gamer.
If it's something you enjoy, who the fuck is he to tell you otherwise?
The amount of money which filters through these far-right programs is egregious... the worst is when they are tax-exempt...
At 9/24/13 02:54 AM, Oolaph wrote: I'm proud of how well I've been able to hide my crushing loneliness for the past four years.
I'm proud of this guy's Tom Baker icon.
As per government debt, I didn't mean to imply that default is a good thing, I was just looking for any positives I could imagine. Your point is valid though, in fact, our domestic debt used to be factored into our GDP!
Trying to end this race nonsense, this ultimately boils down to one issue: Is it worth shutting down the government and risking default to defund Obamacare?
Whether for or against it (the GOP is against Obamacare, but only the TP is for shutdown to defund it), the issue has caused a major divide in the house and may be determine the future of the Republican Party: Plenty of the House is infuriated with the threat of a shutdown. It's political suicide.
Will the GOP reform, or split into two factions? Predictions?
Is the Tea Party nearing its end?
(And on Cruz, he is batshit-crazy.)
At 9/23/13 11:35 PM, Warforger wrote:At 9/23/13 09:11 PM, MonochromeMonitor wrote: The only pro I can think of defaulting is no one will lend us money, so we may become more self-reliant.No not really. Generally what you do in recessions is you go into deficits and begin spending increases until you reach economic growth again, then you cut the spending to prevent rampant inflation in the subsequent boom. Lending money is what let's you do that. That and most of the debt is domestic not foreign so you're just hitting peoples investments again. I just don't get the Republicans.......
I suppose when I said self-reliant, I meant efficient. The rate at which the debt ceiling is raised and subsequently surpassed is unprecedented, regardless of the source. Though a default would be disastrous for our economy, I can't see how it will be avoided... it's cyclical.
The only pro I can think of defaulting is no one will lend us money, so we may become more self-reliant.
oh chill out, I'm just putting a little bit of needed humor in otherwise serious discussion. it's nothing get all butthurt about.
All the humor I need is on the subject is on Comedy Central at 11 EST. Tune in.
Though I will admit the tinfoil bit was funny.
At 9/23/13 08:36 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:At 9/23/13 08:34 PM, 24901miles wrote: No, Government brain signal machines through HAARP are obviously run using funds from the Zionist Illuminati Trust Fund. If you take off your tin foil hat, you'll be commanded to buy specific products which funnel money into the trust fund which runs the HAARP's mind control units.DAMN IT! I took it off though and now I feel like buying Oxy Clean! Billy Mays must have been part of it too!
Very funny, but take this to general... or chat or something.
The only ignorance I will tolerate is genuine ignorance, not mock ignorance.
That's why we let the "race card" slide.
Accusing Obama of the race card is used as a last resort upon realizing that one's agrument has no validity whosoever. Basically tu quoque.
I'm excited to see what Jon Stewart will say about this tonight, it will surely be grand...
A new talking point: Pros/cons of a default?
At 9/22/13 03:15 PM, JayTheWiz wrote:At 9/22/13 03:10 PM, Entice wrote: I'd tap dat pony assJudging by the sheer amount of MLP hentai that is on here, I'm guessing most people would... xD
Hah, you know she's not a girl anyway. I mean, "Entice"? Yeah, you're a dude. I'm an actual female, and as a perverted man or a woman, you insult our gender.
This had been bothering me, all the users with sexually suggestive names claiming to be girls... bullshit.
Cuts themselves do not have to be impractical, but the sequester by definition was meant to be impractical. Trying to make the sequester more practical defeats the entire point of what it was supposed to do.
Yes, our sequester was meant to be so devastating and arbitrary that they would HAVE to compromise. But sequestration is a broader term, similar to cuts with the distinction that they are introduced automatically.
I agree that the debt is less of a problem than it is made out to be. Yes, it had increased, but Obama has actually lowered the deficit (the increase in debt), though the overall debt has increased (and most forget that it tripled under Reagan). This is comparable to speed vs. acceleration, like how a ball sliding down a curved ramp will accelerate slower as it nears the bottom while still speeding up.
Ironically, on our egregious defence budget, in the event of a shutdown, members of the armed forces will take a serious hit to their pay—or not be paid at all.
To be fair I'd argue that his DFS is much better than our current system.
The 20% cuts are far too drastic, though. Entitlements are not the cause of our debt. The government has been increasing its spending at a rate faster than revenues have been growing for decades. As this debt increases, so do the interest payments, contributing to the growing debt.
And sequestration—though in America's case was meant to never happen—actually just means automatic spending cuts. These cuts don't have to be impractical.
Ah, the Fourteenth. Brilliant, I was confused...
Great idea on spending. You're right that what we need is a multifaceted, approach to cuts, as opposed to making arbitrary cuts. But you should think of a name that doesn't sound like exercise. Americans hate that.
At 9/23/13 01:48 PM, Feoric wrote: The issue isn't in the House. They already passed it.
I know it passed in the house, that's what started this whole shutdown fiasco. What I meant when I said if the House doesn't successfully defund it, is that the House is still trying to get the Senate to defund it, ie if they get their way.
A default cannot happen. Obama will invoke the 18th amendment if it ever came to that.
Wait... I'm pretty sure the eighteenth was the Prohibition. Which one are you referring to?
The concept of a "media bias" is laughable in of itself. To claim that the entirety of our informational networks have a particular bias rather than that the viewers of one network have a bias is outrageous. Just look at Occam's razor. Is it more likely for everyone else to be biased, or for you to be?
I didn't mean to take sides, I have little opinion on Obamacare because I know little about the Affordable Care Act. However, it can be agreed upon by most people that holding the government hostage is not the way to defund it. The media bias and the race card issues were just too ridiculous and needed to be addressed.
The libertarian platform is quite different, in principle, than the GOP. The GOP favors order over freedom (such as NSA spying) and often supports big corporations and the rich, while libertarians (again in principle) support liberty over order and equality (ie, oppose any form of spying as well as equality measures like welfare). However, principles aside, the leaders of the party are objectively crazy.
At 9/23/13 01:10 PM, grevantime wrote: Hopefully this is not OT for this thread and/or forum: if you are like me, then there must be a increasing pitch of frustration over the growing level of retardation with submissions, especially with movies. Maybe, there can be a rating system where ten submissions and/or removals beyond saves earns a suspension for submission privileges.
I am like you. This is ridiculous. Stolen submissions are endemic. AND WE CANT FLAG. That's like the only way people improve their whistle!
No True Scotsman and all that. 8 years of failed rhetoric is blowing up right in your face. The good news is that it's becoming transparent and apparent to everyone else without an R next to their name.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman
The bigger picture is the looming threat of government default. Will a compromise to raise the debt limit be reached if the House doesn't successfully defund Obamacare? The House's original criteria for raising the ceiling were:
—Long term debt ceiling increase (allows Treasury to borrow for the rest of Obama's term): privatize Medicare and/or social security.
—Medium term debt ceiling increase (allows Treasury to borrow until sometime in 2015): Cut food stamps, tinker with chained CPI, tax reform, agree to enact block-grant Medicaid or a large raise in the retirement age.
—Short term debt ceiling increase (postpones default until sometime in the first half of 2014): Means testing of social security, a small raise in the retirement age or ending agricultural subsidies.
I agree with an earlier poster about the TP representatives holding the government hostage. No matter your opinion on Obamacare (in fact, 52% of Americans are against it), shutting down the government to defund it is insane (73% of Americans are against it).
Conservatives and tea party activists insist that Republicans will be rewarded for stopping Obamacare by any means necessary. It seems 95-96 is in their distant memory. If anything good comes out of this, no one will reelect the Tea Party reps in 2014.
What do you think the odds of a default are? I believe a shutdown is highly likely, but that default will just be avoided as it was in 2011. This doesn't address the source of the problem and we will soon surpass whatever new limit is decided upon.
Or, you know, it'll actually work and taxpayers will find that with everyone insured and they no longer have to bear the weight of raised healthcare costs forced upon them as justification for those who need care but can't afford insurance the GOP and Obamacare opponents who have spent so much time trying to kill a law (and it is law don't forget) that actually helps the average person, but pisses off their corporate donors. You do know that in places that have tried to make it work, it's working right? That's what the GOP and it's supporters are really afraid of in all this: That it'll work and then lead to more heartbreak at the polls for them.
Like Colbert says, the worst thing for the GOP will be when Obamacare gets implemented and people actually LIKE it.
Um no, in fact that is a total revision of history to say that. When the government shutdown because of the Republicans unwillingness to compromise with the President, the Public largely blamed the Republicans rather than Clinton forcing the Republicans to work with Clinton. Clinton wasn't as much of a good politician in this case as much as the Republicans were terrible ones.
That's what I meant. I meant that everyone blamed them for the shutdown, hence it was bad for the GOP. I was saying that Clinton's flexibility, not forcing, but him moving right to negotiate, allowed him to win term 2 so easily.
I don't see how finding a forum thread that people barely know about is the best way. I didn't even know that EGB was for hunting abuse until somebody else explained it to me.
I agree completely, and I wish flash had a system like the art portal.
At 9/22/13 01:53 PM, Viper50 wrote: They have other things they need to do with the site before they can even think about doing something like that.
You can't really expect them to drop whatever they're doing at the moment just to do that can you?
Though I would like to have that back.
I understand, but it's not merely a convenience... I have seen at least 10 stolen flash submissions in the last 24 hours and not everyone checks the EGB/is an active portal moderator.
Holy crap, another one? A bunch of his games have passed judgement!
At 9/22/13 01:24 PM, LoboF wrote: Who are the current moderators to flag stolen art ?
turkeyonastick, ReNaeNae, ornery...
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Bill Nye the Science Guy.
You know the drill. Will our government shutdown on the 30th because the House refuses to fund the government unless Obamacare is defunded? Will they negotiate? The White House has sworn to veto their measure. Many republican representatives claim that the 95-96 shutdown was good for the GOP, and that Americans will see a refusal to negotiate as honorable—sticking to their core values. However, I believe Clinton's flexibility in dealing with the house was what allowed him to win second term by a landslide. Your thoughts?
Government Shutdown: "a situation in which the government stops providing all but "essential" services."
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