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Response to: "Russia Invades Ukraine" Posted September 4th, 2014 in Politics

At 9/2/14 09:32 AM, wildfire4461 wrote: Boy Putin REALLLLLY wants to bring the cold war back:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/31/putin-threatens-nuclear-war-over-ukraine.html

He just wants to increase tensions to lure more sanctions. To speed up things with the BRIC finances.

Response to: Poverty. Posted July 21st, 2014 in Politics

Well it's a nice read, but the are a couple things wrong with it.
1) All these things mentioned can also play a role in a wealthier mans life. The only difference is that the effect is less life changing when you have more cash to burn. Do you have extra mouths to feed? Does your car break down at a bad moment? These things are life changing for a poor man, don't affect a rich man whatsoever. So statically a poor man will bite the dust a lot more often.

2) You completely leave out chance. Being rich or poor depends highly on your chances. Yes some people get good chances but fail em. Statically this is just a small portion and if you feel that you part of it, why speak for poverty in general?

I mean seriously though even a poor man in a 1st world country ( only 16% chance to be born in a 1st world country ), gets several square km's on the planet to get his needs. Compare that to African starving to death, while working 24/7 and this choice making has really nothing to do with the result. Most poor people in a developing country live better than most kings a couple ages ago and 200.000 years before that. I mean little one can do if you only smart enough to stack bricks and ruin your back at age 35.

3) Unhappiness about rich people is linked to the amount of economic growth, wealth share and corruption. While I live in a street with dock-workers, middle class office workers, millionaires and doctors. There are plenty of countries similar to America where both in equivalent senate and house of representatives large portions of politicians are lobbyist dining with the 1%. And laws get pushed through, not always in favor of the majority of people that way. And that rich and poor are so financially diverse that they live in their own neighborhoods where one can afford a boat and another can't even afford a warm meal every day of the week. And this unhappiness is not only shared by poor people but also by middle class and higher class people.

What you say is sound, just does not really help 100% of poverty cases nor explain the reason why people complain about rich.

Response to: Why Do People Not Like Atheists? Posted July 21st, 2014 in Politics

Someday someone will start a topic called: "Why Do People No Longer Ask "Why Do People Not Like/Hate...." topics.
I will also murder that guy.

Response to: So I decided to join Second Life Posted April 24th, 2014 in General

At 4/22/14 08:07 PM, PanzerKorpse wrote: I plan to go back to mmo's once I leave this hospital, get my social security check and chill.

Heh did the same had 2 spinal operations between school and college with about a 2,5 year delay.
Lots of wow back in those days. Cancelled subscription the day I could walk :D
( was close to carpel tunnel though since I had to play from a laying position, eventually made wow playable on joystick :) )

Response to: Gay Marriage Legalized In Uk Posted April 23rd, 2014 in Politics

I don't think there is much to discuss. If you are against gay marriage for religious reasons, then there is little one can do within the boundaries of logical reasoning to change that. My country is mostly non religious and I think we were the first country to make gay marriage legal. I think we only had 7 protesters in total that day that were against it, carrying religious signs. We thanked them for sticking to what they believed in, but used reason and statistics to disproof their claims.

This was the first year that there was no religious party in the coalition, years before that all surveys showed higher than 75% rating accepting gay marriage. It was religion that held it back, despite the people's general opinion and supported evidence of no negative effects for the economy or general well being compared to the extra freedoms. It was from that day that gays were no longer second rank citizens and years after straight couples started to deter the symbolic meaning of marriage by early divorces in western countries.

Response to: Show us your video games! Posted April 23rd, 2014 in Video Games

Nice collections. I played a lot of games but never saved them. I got the nes and snes from nephews. Moved on to the ps1 and n64. Went to gamecube, wii and xbox, xbox360. But every time I went to a new gen I often gave away my older console and games to honor family tradition :P. Though I sold my wii a week after launch and kept one the gamecubes for the resident evil remake, mgs remake and super smash brothers. The super smash disc has run it's time ( think we and friends ruined over 12 game cube controllers on that game alone, we just had a bag where we would dispose em in :D). There was a foreign family on the other side of the street ( from Afghanistan ) who ruined four times as much controllers on super smash.

Gave away the xbox 360 + games last month. Today I don't have any physical discs since I was transitioning to steam for a long time and the cube is staying at my brothers apartment, since he smokes a lot of weed with friends and that thing has some nice party games on it.

I do have a steam list I wanted to post as a joke. But it goes quite fast if you go to humblebundles, steamsales and get keys from budgetgamer sites. I made a calculation once where I figured out that I averagely pay less than 3 euro's for a steam game. So my list looks a lot more impressive than it really is ;D
( and I could not screenshot all titles on a 1080 x 1920 plain ;D )

Response to: Elder Scrolls Online Posted April 23rd, 2014 in Video Games

At 4/19/14 05:34 PM, Valjylmyr wrote: From what I've seen of this game it basically looks like Oblivion online with Skyrim's HUD, but a friend of mine who bought it said it's more of an MMO than an Elder Scrolls game. If that's the case I have zero interest.

I agree with this completely. The elder scrolls or a fallout universe really needs a good single player experience with maybe some coop gimmicks on the side. And I did play mmo's in the past, but I never got the point of it.

Who on earth is going to pay full retail price + money for the mount and faction unlock ( else you have a walking simulator ) + monthly fees, for something that tries to emulate an elder scrolls game, rather than being one. For that cash with steam sales, budgetgaming sites and humble bundles you can get tons of better experiences.
And if you really do have to play an mmo, do one that at least allows friends to help you out.

In this game if a guy completes the quest he is gone. This means if he accidentally kills a boss before the game notices you are fighting it as well ( yes some the bosses die within seconds ), then he disappears from your realm. Same for puzzles, you will spend most your time waiting up for friends to finish their stuff. And if that person can't solve or beat the boss, because his build is complementary to yours, to bad. It's not like gw2 where your hero just scales back to a lower level when he is helping out.

Response to: Xbox 1 flop of the century Posted April 7th, 2014 in Video Games

At 4/6/14 09:23 PM, SneakyGameBoy wrote:
At 4/3/14 11:07 PM, Valjylmyr wrote: Here we go again. These arguments never go anywhere. Can we please not derail this thread?
I kinda agree. As much as I love seeing people arguing about devices, the Xbox hate trend is kinda getting old. We get it, they fucked up at the conference but they reversed it, so what else is there to complain about other than the Kinect and TV? Those are hardly much of issue. Not to mention they are coming out with a price drop and you can get a Xbox One without a Kinect. Also the TV feature is not the main part of the console. Obviously no one has seen the interface, Its just a option.

First of you can't have a conversation like this without derailing. I mean loving a console is like loving religion. It is easy to point out the flaws of it, yet the people stick to defend to it.
Everything is wrong with the xbox. First like you state they tried to screw up the gamer to favour video game investors. Then they force a non-working camera system with the purchase. How did the consumer react to this? With turmoil.
Like the press release do they react to concerned consumers? No they did not. They letted the stocks do the talking. Every company is in it for the money even Nintendo with the cutest characters have a history in screwing companies and consumers over, in fact it led to the rise of the sony playstation, but becoming greedy to the point that the company almost gets swallowed up by his own ass is shitty to partake in.

Companies can fuck up and they can change. But does a xbox one favour the gamer? Is a xbox one consumer in a favouring market position buying over priced accessories, games and DLC. I mean if your not American most the features the Xbox one reserves resources for ( while already being weaker than a ps4 and more expensive ) are not even going to be used and you can't create a camera system that works for every person in every room. Eating breakfast while watching tv and suddenly you the xbox overlay, because your fork triggered hand function for xbox overlay. The only reason to buy the console is nostalgia. Even the exclusives are all games either made by favourite companies or the next in a game series.

And this bothers other people. I mean from the outside view you see a consumers getting screwed over. And defending their boyfriend that beats on em. He doesn't beat me that much lately, stop complaining. :D

Response to: Gamespy shutting down ALL servers Posted April 7th, 2014 in Video Games

At 4/6/14 03:36 PM, The-Real-Giovanni wrote:
At 4/6/14 03:22 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: I am sure another company will pick up the pieces from them shutting down. No harm, no foul.
Or at the very least, the publishing companies can retool their PC games for Steamworks.

This is the most likely solution from case to case. Bohemia might be willing to patch ArmA 2 with another master server.
However chances for flashpoint, arma reloaded and arma 1 are pretty non existent. The communities on those games are also pretty non existent, but those that did stuck around are pretty much screwed over now.

Response to: Gamespy shutting down ALL servers Posted April 6th, 2014 in Video Games

Those are some harsh words for a free service which have been around for ages and till now supported a lot of master servers for older games.
Games like ArmA 2 where DayZ originated from, Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption on Xbox 360 and PS3 and a significant number of Nintendo's online games on both Wii and DS, other handheldgames like older monsters hunters, games like Dungeon Defenders, older civ, bf and halo games together with roughly about 800 other titles will simply have to rely on direct ip connection in the future.
Which unless the company still wants to invest money pretty much kills the community of that game effectively.

This won't hurt the average gamer much like you and me, I mean if you are a Borderlands fan chances are you are now playing Borderlands 2, but likely already moved on to the next game. But the gamers who stuck to that community and supported it's life over a considerable amount of time now have a chance to lose that.

Response to: Xbox 1 flop of the century Posted April 3rd, 2014 in Video Games

It's a useless discussion though. Despite xbox seemingly not being such a good choice there have been countless of calculations pre build steam box like pc's that will deliver a better gaming experience than any of the consoles. And while it can be more expensive at the start it pays off in the long run with the cheap games and cheap upgrades and probably best of all I can even play older games after an upgrade.

Still a ps4 is quality to price wise not such a bad deal and as an engineer with some experience in camera systems I don't really believe in the new kinect either. And I find it odd they always wanted the device to be turned on at all times. Ps4 doesn't seem like such a bad idea till I of course want to install some mods in the next Bethesda game and pay 70 euro for on demand games while buying entire company releases for that price on a steamsale.

But in the end does it matter? The consoles are a valuable market for developers. Some even use marketing strategies favouring consoles only. And this leaves games limited to work on those devices. Meaning that I don't have to buy a new video card every 2 months, because of games becoming more complex. I upgrade my motherboard and cpu this summer and I can play the next gen games without a hassle. ( I can already but ArmA 3 is being a bitch ).

Response to: the VGA's are coming on soon Posted December 9th, 2013 in Video Games

Everyone who watched this, is a bit of a loser.

Response to: Islam-Apologetic Feminists Posted October 30th, 2013 in Politics

First of, many of the feminist do attack the Islam, but this has no fruitful product in most cases because when an outsider attacks your culture or religion you defend it and the doors to debate close. And the whole female right issue turns into a religion/culture comparison. Like above, to proof my point, a fruitless debate aside to the point and with no outcome. Stop it

However this can trigger some Islamic women to become feminist who are in a better ( know how of the culture ) and worse ( stigmatized at best, killed otherwise and also bound emotionally to the religion ) position, to start a debate about it with their own culture.

This caused a bit of an uproar here and there on the internet, because this group seems to have defended some cases in favor of Muslim rapist. For us this is a ultimate sign of hypocrisy, however for them taking baby-steps in the right direction in a framework where religion still holds all the cards might be the only way to go forward. So I say it's their fight, go for it girls.

Then finally there is this small group of western Islam apologetic feminist, who by the way can be called a non-issue due to the size of their group and ridiculous obvious alternative motives. Naming things like burkas an essential step to make a woman less of an object for men...of course their absurdness attracts most the media causing yet another blow to feminist credibility.

Response to: Video doesn't load Posted October 28th, 2013 in Where is / How to?

At 10/27/13 10:21 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 10/27/13 08:33 AM, Migel wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/627292

When I try to view this video it just redirects me to a jpeg.
Firefox
That's odd. I'm using Firefox too and it works fine... have you tried clearing your cache and reloading the page? Is it only this specific submission? What .jpeg are you redirected to?

It was for both pc, laptop and phone. But now that its on frontpage I can see it clearly so it's fixed.

Video doesn't load Posted October 27th, 2013 in Where is / How to?

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/627292

When I try to view this video it just redirects me to a jpeg.
Firefox

Response to: This world is fucked up Posted October 15th, 2013 in General

At 10/15/13 03:29 PM, Swag-in-a-Bag wrote: The World itself is not mfucked up, just some people are which projects back into the universe and makes it seem that way. I enjoi the balancing of things though because that's how things are supposed to be; nothing more nothing less

lol Life

Dude..93% of the people in this world are either sick, have psycological problems or are poor. If you are not one of those you pretty much won the lottery.

Response to: New Cold War? Posted August 8th, 2013 in Politics

At 8/8/13 10:06 AM, tyler2513 wrote:
At 8/8/13 09:18 AM, Migel wrote:
I don't know how to react when a person says New Cold War to attract readers, but then comes with possible the two dumbest reasons to start a war between countries. You do know that to paint a cold war scenario, you have to paint a war scenario right? Cold War is not a slight argument between two countries where the president decides to visit Sweden before Russia. It's where all the ingredients are in a place for a war, but somehow the war does not erupt.
Well saying that the Cold War wasn't an actual war was it? It where a period of time where the U.S and Soviet Russia treated each other as enemies and lined up on the other side of every issue. Which is exactly what's been going on.

A Cold War is a War scenario waiting to start. The final chess pieces are put into place. Let's imagine you are watching tv and suddenly commercials like what to do during a nuclear war will show up, the papers will everyday report of the high tension of the economical damage by both countries, proxy-wars and ally gathering. Your life is at stake, when you go to bed that night be night when the bombs hit. That is Cold War.

What you name above is nothing more than show off power. Look America has greedy hands and other super powers occasionally need to show that ugly underbelly of America to create some opportunity. So they can play the field a little 2. But America can't just let things slide and appear weak so it has to counter as well. But in times they can't really hurt each other financially because of the crisis. So they play these little psychological plays on tv while Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Secretary of State John Kerry speak with their Russian counterparts in private on how to really deal with the problem.
So if you want to call that Cold War than almost every country is in Cold War.

Response to: Dumbest argument you ever heard Posted August 8th, 2013 in Politics

I just love it when a person says I have friends who are ....,
Or I myself am a .....,

But not all of us/them think that way.

So your or their lack of integrity protects you from the ideals of the group you are apart off? You want that, I get that.
But if someone is a Nazi who doesn't hate Jews, should we then end the discussion because apparently not all nazis hate jews? Some of them are good people? Maybe it's better if that Nazi joins another group. Same could apply to your religious/conservatist friend.

Response to: Why do we still use consoles? Posted August 8th, 2013 in Video Games

At some point a gamer just has to step up and tell the honest truth, that he feels insecure about someone else enjoying the same thing as him, but in a different way.

Instead of tedious meaningless discussions about what platform is better, in a desperate attempt to give real value to subjective bullshit.

Response to: New Cold War? Posted August 8th, 2013 in Politics

At 8/8/13 08:16 AM, tyler2513 wrote: Looks like tensions are heating up with Putin and Obama over a bunch of recent issues and they've decided to cancel the upcoming talks. Not only was Obama stressed with Putin giving Snowden asylum but much of the U.S is calling to boycott the Olympics due to Russia's anti-gay laws over there. Obama will still be going to the G20 Summit but going to Sweden beforehand so not to directly meet with Putin.

I don't know how to react when a person says New Cold War to attract readers, but then comes with possible the two dumbest reasons to start a war between countries. You do know that to paint a cold war scenario, you have to paint a war scenario right? Cold War is not a slight argument between two countries where the president decides to visit Sweden before Russia. It's where all the ingredients are in a place for a war, but somehow the war does not erupt.

Response to: Why Alex Jones Matters & Morinsults Posted June 27th, 2013 in Politics

At 6/26/13 02:23 PM, Poniiboi wrote:
At 6/26/13 01:47 PM, Migel wrote: This topic derails over and over again.

1) We all know, we all know, we all know.
I think you know a lot less than you think you do.

You are probably right. I am not a process automation engineer with hands on experience on various filtration systems. And even if I was, it wouldn't matter that I actually had to implement sensor equipment to indicate the level of fluoridation in some of named systems. I don't get tested daily with direct results of my knowledge in my everyday work, so my knowledge of my own capabilities are rather limited.

If someone could be called over qualified to make a statement like that, I would be the direct opposite of that. And I thank you for obviously NOT derailing the conversation yet again when asked to defend the practical aspects of your alex jones matters analysis .

Because when it comes to something as objective as "matters", why try to focus on the amount of times alex is right to the amount of times he is wrong or anything to actually trie to determe if alex jones matters or is just a phony fear mongering to sell product? It makes no sense to turn a topic into something debatable on a forum, when you can also do childish remarks right?

Response to: Why Alex Jones Matters & Morinsults Posted June 26th, 2013 in Politics

This topic derails over and over again.

1) We all know the $5 dollar machine filter does jack shit.

2) We all know that for each statement Alex Jones makes hundreds statements that are not true, which are in the region of "thousands of dead astronauts" aka completely delusional. There are literally highlights of him predicting the end of world that goes on for hours, without any of those events happening going years back. And that is what he does, he is a sensationalist and his website sells products for people that join him in that madness. Why not pay for an actual critical newspaper with a good amount of source checking, instead of buying that crap.

3) Infowars has on occasion called out to people who are being attacked by the american government for whistle-blowing. They call out to wikileaks as well. And Alex Jones stated several times that the critical media is focusing on lobbyist to much and are a diverted from the real threats. Despite the increase of politicians becoming lobbyist has grown from 3% to an overall majority. These politicians make 1452% averagely after their political career is over.
This is spreading of misinformation, sawing distrust in actual whistle blowers and has no other use but to clog the system.

4) He has no credibility, so the moment he reaches the money load after several failed attempts to scare people. He holds on to it like a rabid dog and uses that theory as a bridge to his other theories. In the meantime those problems could be real issues, but since this quack pointed it out and brings in the other theories as well, noone sees him as a reliable source. And thus ignores a possible threat.

5) Alex Jones his increasing number of followers has to do with a lack of a reliable critical media and overall critical thinking. The moment 9/11 happened, America should have been out for blood. Demanding the sack off any head-player that failed their job that day and then decide to go or not go to war. Instead media went on the bandwagon with the politicians and alternate media inputs parroted that. The media is becoming a parrot that gives stage to spindoctors and politicians. On the other side though we got Alex Jones conjuring an army of followers buying $5 dollar water filters.

6)All these points have the same conclusion though.
Alex Jones way of communicating doesn't invite people to debate. Like Alex Jones the topic opener communicates in a similar I am just gonna give you bullshit if you don't take my word for it. This style brings noone over the hill.
Alex Jones his constant barrage of theories and world endings cause his credibility to falter but the very people who are critical when it comes to sources. So even when he gets two million listeners, there are 8 million scientologist in this world. Just because the guy is showing up on more conventional stations and has a following says absolutely jack about how much a persons matters.

At least in the way that this discussed here. Because he does matter to these people. But yeah if a guy has a 1/10 hit miss ratio when it comes to finding or predicting conspiracies, he is likely to be more of a pessimistic sensationalist than

Response to: Tradition is not a justification. Posted June 23rd, 2013 in Politics

âEUoeThe less there is to justify a traditional custom, the harder it is to get rid of itâEU âEU* Mark Twain

A while back a young woman with a conservative upbringing posted on this forum that she had new light to bring to the same sex marriage discussion. After a nice introduction stating that she read books to know more of the world, I looked forward to what she had to tell. I wanted to see how much she had grown from her upbringing.

Unfortunately it was exactly the type of reasoning that you would see in an average "why gays shouldn't marry" youtube video only this time nicely written and supported by articles. Since same sex marriage has been legal in my country for some time, all the reasoning made no sense. The lack of empathy and one sided arguments really made the whole discussion detached from reality. At some point the conversation ended, if dogs could or could not sign legal documents to marry a human....grow up?

But it´s easy for me to not take her serious. Like we do when we talk to people who don´t want women to vote or racists. And they in their time could laugh at the people who were idiots before them.

But the key word is empathy here, tradition makes us able to depersonalize a problem and avoid developing empathy to the people who are worse off because of it, by making it a brainless activity aka tradition.
In the future people will laugh and look in disgust at me for the same reason.

One example is that I am not vegetarian and defended my right to eat meat in the past quite aggressively towards vegetarians.

But seeing the health problems ( not only by consumption but also the side effects of keeping those animal free of sickness thus increasing bacteria resistance to our own medicines), the tremendous live stock costs, the direct and indirect damage to the environment and the poor life conditions of these creatures makes me a bit more reluctant about jumping into vegetarian related discussions.

I am pretty sure that this and other problems that we still hide from through the power of tradition will make us look like complete barbarians in the future :D

Response to: Xbox One Official Thread. Posted June 21st, 2013 in Video Games

Exactly, DRM FREE for the moment after such a stock plunge.
Can reimplement at any time because of terms of service.

For me it's over. Though I would miss the xboxone only titles a bit I am not going to give money to something that is so willing to backstab me the moment I fall asleep.

Response to: Why Alex Jones Matters & Morinsults Posted June 13th, 2013 in Politics

When both parties call each other close minded.
But one side takes on the discussion to find a common ground for discussion, while the other just replies positively to people thinking similar and negatively to people with a different viewpoint.

Who is close minded or....maybe just even trolling?

Response to: Why Alex Jones Matters & Morinsults Posted June 10th, 2013 in Politics

At 6/9/13 11:09 PM, Feoric wrote: Damn, you guys take the bait every god damn time. Pretty embarrassing.

I didn't know the guy. Still pretty embarrassing.

Though I do understand the hate towards conspiracy theories a bit better now. It seems that the lack of old-school journalism is making people turn away from popular media. It has come to the point that a guy like Alex Jones is the only guy that can fill that hole to these people, who are apparently growing in numbers.
I can understand that people yelling "it's the government" every time a terrorist attacks, is becoming just a relevant as the guy yelling "it's gods punishment" for each tornado hit.

Response to: Your education. Posted June 9th, 2013 in Politics

Bachelor Industrial Automation Engineer with minor in Proces Automation.
For each 8 engineer's that become gray, one guy like me stands up replace em by robots.

Response to: Why Alex Jones Matters & Morinsults Posted June 9th, 2013 in Politics

At 6/9/13 07:16 AM, Poniiboi wrote:
At 6/9/13 06:17 AM, Migel wrote:
Because of this behavior he puts of a lot of people that could otherwise have been willing to help him.
This weakness is in you, not Jones. Emotion does not negate the point. Sorry, but this is invalid. How can you acknowledge that he has a point yet not back him because of his delivery? The weakness is in you, my friend. True story.

Emotion does negate the point, if it leads to a complete bullshit story on more than one occasion or turns an otherwise civilized debate into a one sided slaughterfest. That hurts his credibility when he does speak the truth. And thus clog that particular outlet.

Water fluoridation is a good example, it's quite a problem to force each citizen to use if it's not necessary. But you name it poisoning on purpose and Alex Jones even ties it to the Bildenberg conspiracy.The part and facts that need attention are overshot. You yourself lose credibility the moment you copy that stance and everybody just sees this possible health hazard as a fictional story. That is not my or everyone else his weakness, that's Alex Jones his delusional and emotional story telling for the sake of his radio show.

The cancer industry for example is not a well oiled business there are factors in it that steer the industry in the direction of removal rather than the actual cure of cancer. Alex Jones does make a person aware of this situation but instead of making an investigation about it and to show where it goes wrong, he makes better radio by getting angry naming a fictional death count and then jumping to the conclusion that the cancer industry are remnants of nazi germany that don't want to find a cure to keep the business going. Because of this he gives the opposition a lot of ammo, overshoots the initial problem by a mile and the result is no action. He hogs this outlet, thus everyone ties the problem that could be there to a conspiracy.

As a conclusion that is his relevance.
I think a guy once said: Alex Jones is one of the few people that ties all these theories into one large deception theory.
Which can only mean two things:
1. He is delusional or 2. He is part of the conspiracy :D

Response to: Why Alex Jones Matters & Morinsults Posted June 9th, 2013 in Politics

At 6/8/13 06:46 PM, Warforger wrote:
At 6/8/13 05:01 PM, Poniiboi wrote: which is that Jones tells about the flouride in water. Jones tells about why smart meters are bad.
All of which don't actually have any affect on health.

This is not true though. In my country fluoride in water is an illegal practice because of the feared long term damage. But it's a trade off. People here get dental, as a part of their "free" health care pack, so we don't have need for the fluoride in water. And rich people don't have such a difference in income compared to the poor, so the general health here is okay. I am not sure if America has the same variables.

For people that still want to have fluorides in their diet, we can chose between fluoride or normal kitchen salt. So the choice lies with the civilian and not the government. Also our adult toothpaste has fluorides but we don't swallow this, to avoid brain damage children's toothpaste hardly contain any fluoride as they are taught not to swallow it when maturing.

In America the removal of this fluoride could cause mayor chronic deceases in poor communities. So making it optional might not be a good choice.

So like some guys stated here, it's nice to occasionally see a guy that steps from the general herd that point's out some problems long forgotten to reopen debate instead staying stuck to an useless tradition. But there is a difference here between pointing out these things and opening debate, compared to yelling incoherent sentences like a paranoid schizophrenic.

Because after Alex Jones makes a coherent statement about water fluoridation, he immediately calls it a plot to poison civilians by the government. Which then leads to a conspiracy to purposely make people mentally weaker so that they can take their guns away and the new world order..... you get the point.

Because of this behavior he puts of a lot of people that could otherwise have been willing to help him. For that reason Alex Jones his relevance as a important figure in society can be debated. Because next time someone finds out that a certain anti depressant drug can cause a school shooting, Alex Jones will be all over that story tying it some drug Hitler used in his interrogations. The result being that many people think..oh this a alex jones type of issue and then advert their eyes.

Response to: Why Alex Jones Matters & Morinsults Posted June 8th, 2013 in Politics

The problem with Alex Jones is that he has no credibility. The persons has knowledge of a lot of "conspiracies" that he gives the same level of importance and reality in his discussions.
Also when he speaks, he jumps from conspiracy to conspiracy, without giving the person enough information to follow the story. Normally this would mean that the individual has a underlying mental disorder.
Though it might just be an overfill of information bursting out in incoherent quantities, it makes him a decent target for people not following his believes.

With old projects like The Tuskegee Experiment, MKULTRA etc you see that poisoning the people as a experiment is not that unlikely as people think.
And with projects like operation Northwoods, COINTELPRO and Manhattin project, it's also safe to say large planned schemes can follow through unnoticed by the general population and that whistle blowers can be easily shoved off by repeating the lie to the general public.
With projects like Operation Mockingbird and the closing line of ex CIA Executive Director claiming that the CIA basically has infiltrators in all of the mayor American and European media centers could be a decent reason to state that watching any popular media is simply a way to get brainwashed by propaganda....in theory.

These are no special feats, other countries have conspiracies by their secret service. And even the Church of Scientology who is seen as a threat by the government, can also get away with similar acts of infiltration, blackmailing and murdering under the protection of being a religion. With operation snow white being the best example. But also motorcycle clubs, banks etc make use of conspiracies to ensure a steady money income.

So yeah to say that everything is peachy is not completely true and to say that popular media is doing it's job by looking for these type of corruption actively would be a lie. So I can understand you feel the need that a civilian needs to be vigilant and to see Alex Jones as a important whistle blower. But the truth is we don't care, no one cares.

I mean sure we can talk about poison in the water or putting corn in anything isn't exactly healthy. But the reason people are overweight is not because they eat corn, but that they eat four times the meal a normal human would eat and despite that still grow to be 80 while 20% of their fat is corn dust.

Why Alex Jones doesn't matter is that he does not hold any credibility to the mass despite his following. In fact his and your crazy ass behavior and constant cries for wolf actually turns people into those types that don't believe in "conspiracies" itself. Even those that were proven and came to light in the past.