384 Forum Posts by "MarijuanaClock"
At 12/10/02 05:09 PM, Postalpelican wrote: i hope it gets through and 30 grams isnt an ounce its like 28. it should be legalized. i dont know why some people look at it as iff its a horrible thing. cuz its not. and neway 90% of my school does it. but i oubt it will pass through cuz the ol dubya doesnt want canada to get more money then him.
30 Grams is 1.05821883 ounces you fucking moron
No, not anything like the yanks.
We have 137 F-18A hornets, no F-117's or B2's though.
At 12/10/02 01:56 AM, Angryjeff wrote: To qoute a issue of macleans magazine canada in becoming American lite. The main problem is we have no shared hertige or tradition.
We have the British heritage and the French heritage.
The War of 1812
Confederation
WWI
WW2
Korea
America had it's revoltion all we had was trudea talkin to the queen, american had it's civil war, we had a druken bar fight (yes canada did have a 3 hour long civil war).
What are you on about, Trudeau acheived the intrduction of Canada's constituion, as opposed to using the British constitution. We achieved political independence in 1868 though, long before Trudeau.
Secondly Canada had two rebellions, upper Canada's rebellion and lower Canada's rebbelion.
Lower Canada's Rebbelion was led by Louis-Joseph Papineau in 1837-1838 to establish a republic in Lower Canada, which corresponds to the Province of Quebec now.
Upper Canada's Rebbelion was led William Lyon MacKenzie to establish a republic in Upper Canada or join the United States of America. It was crushed in a day, but was far from a "bar fight."
Most canadains know more about american history than they do about there own be it we learn about through tv or that our history that is taught just isn't as interesting. All i know is that if we EVER become to close to the states screw it to hell i'm moving to ireland
Canadian History can be quite interesting, you just have to look a little ;)
good points raven, but the British still marched into America's capital and burnt down the White House.
Secondly the Americans burnt down New York(Now Toronto), not Newark.
At 12/10/02 10:53 AM, EZ3 wrote: A dark day in candian history indeed...
hahahah no, 75% of Canadian support it anyway. Besides it'll be a great boast to Canadas economy.
Saw the story on the news again, the bill will be ready for early next year. This is not the senate's report, this is an actauly bill that will be passed.
It will allow the the possession of up to 30 grams(an ounce) of Marijuana. Possesion will result in a fine but no criminal charge.
THIS WILL BE A REALITY EARLY NEXT YEAR.
This is grade ten stuff dude. =P
At 12/10/02 01:49 AM, Angryjeff wrote: well someone is gettin pretty damn technical, but we were called canada back then so techniclly the people there were canadains. we did more than repel we managed to hold our own and ever gain some land with british support. Besides we were not ready for a war, we didn't even have enough weapons for the troops we still managed to gain ground. Also the general for most of the battles was infact a canadian
Actaully The actual "Canadian" troops were highly traind and disciplined regulars.
The American troops were made up of militia, poorly traind and un-disciplined they were easly cut to peices by the "Canadian" troops.
Later the Americans sent regualr troops only to be repelled again.
Lastly the General over the "Canadian" troops was Isaac Brock, and he was British. Brock was known as the "Hero of Upper Canada" becuase he lead the "Canadians" in repelling the Canadians.
On CBC tonight I've seen that the bill has been drafted for the decriminalization of marijuana in Canada. It will be brought up in the House of Commons(Canada's "House of Representatives") next year. It is strongly expected it will pass.
Decriminalization is not legalization though. Decriminalization simply means you will be able to possess and use small amounts of Marijuana.
Canada was not a dominion in 1812
People who lived in British North America(BNA) defended Canada
The people who lived in BNA did not burn down the whitehouse, British troops from britian burnt down the whitehouse
The British kicked Americas ass in the War of 1812, the "Canadians" just repeled the American invasion.
And people question my fear of America? And people question why I criticise the American gov't when I'm not American. And people think America is the friendly neighbour to the south?
America is a threat to Canadian sovereignty, there is no doubting that now. Manifest destiny, 2003.
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Pact would allow U.S. troops into Canada during emergency
Last Updated Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:49:24
OTTAWA - U.S. troops could find themselves on Canadian territory helping police and firefighters deal with emergencies under a new pact signed by the two countries.
INDEPTH: Target Terrorism
The new accord says that soldiers from either country could cross the border, but would then be under the command of the host country.
John McCallum
Defence Minister John McCallum said the pact recognizes that threats such as those posed by terrorists or biological agents don't recognize international borders, and continues a long tradition of Canada-U.S. co-operation on dealing with common threats.
The agreement creates a new binational planning group that will draw up plans for deploying military and civilian forces in the event of emergency, including terrorist attacks and natural disasters.
The armed forces would be called in to assist the firefighters, paramedics and police who would be on the front lines of any emergency response.
The planning group will be headed up by Canadian Lt.-Gen. Ken Pennie and include 15-20 military officers from the Canadian and American forces. A number of civilian officials will also be included, McCallum said.
Pennie is currently deputy commander of the North American Aerospace Defence Command, or Norad.
The planning group would co-ordinate joint maritime surveillance, intelligence sharing, and military exercises.
McCallum and Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham insisted the plan protects and enhances Canadian sovereignty rather than posing a threat to it.
"The planning group … (puts) Canada in a position to work with the United States on plans to defend North America, plans the United States would otherwise be developing without us," McCallum said.
U.S. forces would only cross the border if Canada requested them, and they would be under Canadian operational command. The planning group would have no forces at its own disposal to deploy.
"Nothing would happen without the go-ahead from the national capitals," Graham told CBC Newsworld.
Canada's air force is already closely integrated with the U.S. defence of continental airspace under Norad.
At 12/9/02 02:00 PM, Slizor wrote: How niave you are. The Russians didn't give up any rights for Communism, infact they probably got more.
What did they gain? They went from the Tzar controlling there lives to Stlain controling there loves.
A) A totalitarian state need not be at the extremes of political opinion. B) You are mislabelling Stalinism as Communism.
Really? Give me an example.
Whether a vote is an essential right remains to be seen. I ask you this, if it is a person's essential right to vote, and until you are 18 you are not allowed to vote, are you not a person?
When people are unable to to fully think and reason they should be allowed to vote? In Slizor's world 5 year olds vote?
For those of you who can't see the advantage of a dictatorship, they are as such. Coherant policies(instead of the policies which change after every election) a powerful leader who can change a country quickly, no need for electionering, it can have intelligent leaders, instead of the most popular(or rich), etc etc. The problem with it is that no one has yet be able(or tried, for that matter) to make a system which also protects the rights of the indivual, and keeps the leader accountable.
Yah just like mussolini stuck to one platform ... oh wait he didn't.
Yah just like how Hitler didn't appeal to the left wing only to purge the left wing from his party latter ... oh wait he did.
People like you should be drug out in the street and shot squarly between the eyes. A totalitarian state from the left or right is not a good thing. Just becuase you can't think for yourself, or you don't think people can think on there own doesn't mean we should all just follow some leader mindlessly. You see the people of Germany were willing to give up there rights for prosperity, and the people of russia were willing to give up there rights for hope, but how did those turn out? What makes me sick is you know the history behind the very idea of Fascism or Communism and you still think it has positive qualities.
When you seek to limit the essential rights of the people you are no better then hitler, mussolini, stalin, or mao.
I think we have established he sucks, please stop making threads about exactly the same thing over and over and over.
At 12/8/02 06:25 PM, Avary wrote:
Ok, ok put the lead pipe down, please :). I'm from Quebec City, Quebec. And this morning when I woke up Quebec was still part of Canada. I hope.
I tend to see things on the dark side, but I must admit that we can be proud to have Don Cherry! ^_^
Cheers, man.
Sorry man, I thought you were a Yank.
^^;
At 12/8/02 06:32 PM, Avary wrote: If Alberta separates can I move there? I'm sick and tired of paying taxes and being taxed for paying taxes (another distinc society achivement from Quebec).
I'm tired of seeing my federal taxes go to Ontario. We pay federal taxes and we get what in return?
Health care funding here used to be 50% from BC, 50% from Ottawa. Now it's 82% from BC, 18% from Ottawa. And taxes fucking went up! both provincial and Federal! I mean what the fuck!
I'm sick of the east. The West has no say in the country. BC, Alb, and Sask have absolutly no say in this country. It's sickening.
Our gov't will give anything to keep Quebec happy and they ignore the West.
Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Iraqi Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil, Kuwaiti Oil ............... and Weapons of mass destruction.
At 12/7/02 08:43 AM, Avary wrote: You should do the ultimate protest and not vote. Anyways what do you call a country with one-party rule where the elections results are known well in advance? Democracy? We owe that to the damn Bloc Quebecois.
No, we owe that to Ontario!
Western Seperation!
At 12/8/02 12:24 PM, Avary wrote: The US Bill of Rights states that Freedom of Speech "shall not be infringed".
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states that Canadians have freedom of self-expression BUT... as long as it doesn't offend anyone. That does not leave a lot to express.
But really the canadian government doesn't have to repress the people into insignificance. Candians can do that by themselves.
What the hell are you talking about? This from an American? Where the Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act were passed without an inch of resistence. Both of those acts made your Bill of Rights worth-less. Get off your soap box and look the fuck around.
Secondly the gov't isn't forcing anyone one to do anything here, they are suggesting that they not use "merry christmas," however, they are not forcing anyone not to use it.
Lastly read the Canadian Charter of Rights before you start talking about it for christ sakes:
Fundamental Freedoms
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of cummunication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
15.(1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benifit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object that amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disabilty.
At 12/8/02 01:58 AM, MonkeyMan_Inc wrote: Hold on does Canada have a language police?If so that is fucked up!!!!!!!!
Yes the frogs get all bitchy if we don't preserve their culture. hahaha.
anything that gets your name in the history books, negative or positive.
At 12/7/02 06:30 AM, Slizor wrote:What would you have without capitalism? Are you asking about the alternative to capitalism that being absolute government control on the production and pricing of goods and services? If you mean that, then the world would be going backwards, not forward. Most of the miracles invented during the 20th century were done because of the freedom underneath the capitalist system.
The main belief of communism is progress,it's foreward thinking. Russia went went from a almost completly agricultural country to one of the most industrialized and powerful nations in the word as a result of communism. The right wing, however, preaches a backward looking view. Conservatives believe in keeping the status quo. In fact the extrem right wing(fascism) looks back to a countries former glory. Musolini even wanted to bring the glory of the roman empire back to Italy.
Secondly major advancement was not brought on by capitalism, it was brought on by war, violence and greed. Well the greed part is capitalistic I suppose.
I really couldn't care.
People should be able to decorate their businesses however they want.
Still I couldn't give a damn one way or another.
At 12/7/02 06:08 PM, LordKooler wrote: Do any of you watch cnn?
CNN The American Propaganda Network!
I don't watch American news, at all. It's way to biased and censored.
At 12/7/02 01:49 AM, AndyMci wrote: The Liberals do a lot of questionable things, imho. John John and his little gang of cronies really need to get their act together - hopefully things will improve once Chretien is gone.
Fuck it, I've given up on the liberals. They're to centrist nowadays, they try to please everyone by doing as little as fucking possible. Next election I'm voting either for the NDP, Marxist/Leninists, Marijuana Party, or the Socialist Party of Canada.
At 12/6/02 05:20 PM, promontorium wrote:At 12/6/02 04:04 PM, napalm6b wrote: Hey man this is a good discussion! I'd like to see some more input from someone with half a brain, preferably from the conservative camp!I am as conservative as I find useful, and I do have more than HALF a brain, so chew on this. "conservatives" (Repulicans) in America and "liberals" (Democrats) in America are technically backwards, the farther you move "to the left" government control and laws increase to the point of communism. And the farther you move "to the Right" gov. control and laws should decrease to the point of anarchy.
What? Totalitarianism exists on both sides of the spectrum. You have Communism on the left, which exercises complete gov't control. And you have facism on the right, which exercises comple gov't control.
In theory The left wants less economic freedom and more personal freedom.
In theory The right wants to less personal freedom and more economic freedom.
Anarchy can vary, however the main principle is this: Absence of any form of political authority. In other words Complete enconomic and complete personal freedom. This is neither left nor right on the political spectrum.
A country like America practices Conservatism, a country like Canada practices Liberalism, and countries like Sweden practice Socialism.
Communism(left totalitarianism) -- Socialism -- Liberalism -- Conservatism -- Facism(right totalitarianism)
At 12/5/02 11:08 PM, Nightshadeplus wrote:
Sure, the majority of Americans are about the same but each have their own lives, their own views...the US is a melting pot but not in the same sense you're thinking of. In the end, they're all Americans but that doesn't mean none know their own heritage.
Yes Canadians have "their own lives, their own views" ..... and we know our heritage......
Gun Control Registry
If you live in Canada you have heard the debates and the controversy around gun control. Some questioned it's effectiveness, considering most criminals don't use registered guns anyway. Many believed it would be a a tremendous waste of money, and they were right. In fact, they were right 400 fold. Thats right, the expected 2 million dollar price tag has grown to almost 1 billion dollars. 1 billion dollars for a program that was questionable to begin with.
I would really like to see some accountability in our gov't, it seems as though it has become progressivly more corrupt over the years.
Well the Liberals suck, The PC suck, The Canadian Alliance sucks, looks like I'm voting NDP or M/L-PC next election.
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The opposition parties, which could have forced a vote, agreed with Cauchon's request, sparing the Liberals a public split. But they called the dropped vote a victory.
Some opposition members and Liberal backbenchers are offended by the program, which will likely cost taxpayers $860 million, more than 400 times the original forecast of $2 million, the auditor general reported this week.
FROM DEC. 3, 2002: Auditor general takes aim at gun registry's $1-billion price tag
The opposition and some Liberals have called on Allan Rock to resign because of the costs. He was justice minister when the program was introduced in 1995.
FROM DEC. 4, 2002: Liberals join call for Rock's head over gun registry costs
Allan Rock
Rock said Ontario, Alberta and the gun lobby contributed to the cost increases.
And, he said, some critics in the Liberal party were playing leadership politics.
He told CBC's Newsworld that the bill was working and saving lives, and the controversy over costs should not be an excuse to reopen the debate over gun control.
"Gun control has a lot to do with our values," he said, and "it's saving lives now." Any changes will be made "over my dead body."
Liberal MP John Harvard said he is opposed to spending more because of the Justice Department's failure to explain the spiralling costs.
Rock said when he was minister, all the costs were disclosed.
Anne McLellan, now health minister, succeeded him in Justice when the bill was being implemented. Progressive Conservatives have called for her resignation.
Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe has linked the gun registry to the Montreal ad agency Groupaction, which has already been connected with government misspending on promotional campaigns.
At 12/5/02 07:42 PM, Angryjeff wrote: Castro for one, hmm bush doesn't support gun control and in your post i do belive u took a jab at the US gov??? a lil hypocrtical of u isn't it
I don't trust the America gov't? How does supporting the ownership of guns change that?
The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
I don't trust the US gov't becuase it is limiting civil liberties and spies on American and Canadian citizens.
Go buy a dictionary and look up hypocracy before you use words you don't understand.
