384 Forum Posts by "MarijuanaClock"
I'm sure if this Iraqi hadn't been murdered he would have argued about the reality of the war with you.
At 3/25/03 03:57 PM, implodinggoat wrote: You have no idea, how much American media do you watch in England?
For the most part the media is slightly liberal, except for a few exceptions such as Fox News which is quite conservative.
The reason the media is liberal is because most of the people attracted to such an occupation are liberal and went to liberal colleges.
Hey I'm Canadian, and we get all the American news here. It is all right wing dribble, especially CNN.
At 3/24/03 11:54 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote: Anyone who thinks war should have rules is an idiot.
Like it or not, Killing civilians can make or break a war.
Civilians work to feed the army. Civilians can join the army. Civilians are the ones who provide the financial backing for the army.
Every civilian you kill is one less morsel of food in an enemy soldier's mouth.
Osama Bin Laden is waging a holy war, and the wtc was very much the financial back bone of America.
By your logic it was ok for al qaeda to kill those America civilians, was it?
It's easy to dismiss murder when it's not happening to you and your country. Then again you probably think "they're only Iraqis" right? Is that it?
You make me sick.
Hypocrite
At 3/24/03 10:09 PM, Commander-K25 wrote: No offense to Nemesisz but, to anyone who remembers Biseor, don't they sorta sound alike?
I remember Biseor, what a fascist fuck.
I'm not a regular nor do I have respect and notoriety in this forum ........... yet I've posted in this thread!
Sweet Jesus what have I done! The universe will implode!
At 3/24/03 04:37 AM, headtrauma wrote:At 3/23/03 11:43 PM, dylan659 wrote: Tell me what your guys's favorite beer is?!?i like liquir, but if i had to pick and choose it would be budweiser, two dog....etc.
Budweiser helps the federal gov't (financialy) in the war on drugs. It has been a contributing factor in the buring of marijuana crops, and the arrests of growers.
Don't drink bud, the end.
mines ok considering I made it in 3 minutes.
Guinness, drinks like a meal
Canada is opposed to war, we believed a diplomatic solution was viable.
We have not condemned America's action, nor do we hate you. We simply have a difference in opinion.
Canada has remianed commited to you as an ally, we have sent 2000 troops to help in afganistan. We are also leading mission "Apollo," which is a mission in the war on terrorism.
We are still your friends, we have nothing against you, we just disagree with you on this one issure.
That is all
When technology progressed and people could see the horror of war in their own living rooms.
It's good that people are afraid of death though. War is a serious thing, and as such deserves serious thought.
Lets face it, the arab world hates America. If you go in there guns a blazing thats going to piss alot of people off. Not to mention the ramifications of an aggressive war if you want a friendly Iraq after this. You do not create a friendly country by bombing the shit out of it.
This is very much a P.R. war as it is a militaristic war. The area is already unstable, the very act of war isn't helping the situation.
However, in order to ensure a stable, and econcomicly viable, region America must use a great deal of tact. Even in war.
It's not about "taking the moral high ground," it far from that, it's about ensuring peace and normal relations. After the war is over.
Secondly I'm against war, but if it has to happen, then this is the way it should happen. If you want America to be presented as a "liberator," then you must win the support of the people you are liberating.
Lastly America has suffered very minimal casualties. There is no need to escualte the action when the war itself is going well.
Commander k-25, I know you're a conservative and as such, naturaly want to kill things. But fucking chill dude. Smoke a joint or somthing.
Yah, I mean most of the world hates America as it is anyway.
Shoe399-BananaClock
JuanaClock-MarijuanaClock
Shoe399: you wathcing this?
JuanaClock: whats that?
Shoe399: bush
JuanaClock: nah It's st. patricks day
JuanaClock: I don't give a fuck
JuanaClock: time to drink
Shoe399: oh
JuanaClock: fuck bush
Shoe399: cause hes annoucning war
Shoe399: fun fun
JuanaClock: I knew he would
JuanaClock: big surprise
JuanaClock: fucking fascist
Shoe399: sadam and his sons have 48 hours to leave iraq or iraq go boom
Shoe399: its fun though
Shoe399: i love war
JuanaClock: feck, stupid yank
Shoe399: no
JuanaClock: another reason for me to get drunk
*drinks another shot*
At 3/17/03 08:22 PM, mysecondstar wrote: looks like, unless saddam hussein leaves, we're off to war. you could here the, "i want to kick saddam hussein's ass" in his voice. we'll see how fast this will take.
Saddam isn't leaving. War is coming.
Negatives
-Bush is going to war
-There's nothing I can do to stop the fascist
-maybe it will be a harsh war for America? Who knows
Positives
-It's St. Patricks Day
-Time to get drunk
-I'm Canadian
At 3/16/03 03:37 AM, RaspberryLock wrote: It never fails. Every country in the world hates
Now they are burning mock North Korean missiles, in support of our troops. Their new line is "Yankees Stay Here." Maybe they are starting to understand that if it were not for our Battleships, Aircraft Carriers and 37,000 heavily armed troops, their piddly country would be non-existent right now.
South Korea has a population of 50 million. They spend $12.8 billion dollars on military expenditures a year. Thats 2.8% percent of their GDP. Granted that doesn't match the extreme militarism and aggression of America, but I would hardly call South Korea a "piddly country" you arrogant fuck.
At 3/16/03 03:56 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: The U.N. is the most contradictory organization ever formed.
No, America comes first. The land of the free is anything but free.
At 3/17/03 01:02 AM, VasIndustries wrote:At 3/16/03 03:56 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: The U.N. is the most contradictory organization ever formed.It could be, but I think NATO is a contender. After all, it was formed against Russia (USSR), and now they are part of it.
Russia is not apart of NATO, what are you retarded?
Everything I wanted to say Slizor already said.
America funded Iraq ........
America funded and trained Osama Bin Laden .....
I think that speaks for itself, asshole.
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At 2/19/03 10:32 PM, Spike_J_Wolfwood wrote: What the hell!?!?!?!?? I pay fucking $50 a month. God damn SBC!!!!!!!
and I lived in a rural area, so cable was really really fast ^_^
I only paid $26(American) for cable, and shaw is pretty much the only cable company here.
And adsl is $19.50(American), and again Telus, the phone company here, pretty much has a monopoly.
Er? I'm not american, but:
By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Retired Gen. Wesley Clark said he's thinking about challenging President Bush (news - web sites) in 2004 because he's concerned about the direction the administration is taking on international affairs.
"Well, I have thought about it," the former NATO (news - web sites) supreme commander said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." "And a lot of people have asked me to think about it."
Clark usually gives a standard line that he is not currently a candidate, not a member of a political party and is not raising money.
Clark, an Arkansas businessman, said that for him the question about running for president "is about ideas, it's not about candidacies." It was his first public acknowledgment that he's considering a run.
"We're at a turning point in American history here. We are about to embark on an operation that's going to put us in a colonial position in the Middle East following Britain, following the Ottomans," Clark said. "It's a huge change for the American people and for what this country stands for."
Clark was asked about a travel schedule that sent him to New Hampshire, Iowa and back to New Hampshire over the last couple of years, and also included a lunch with Democratic National Committee (news - web sites) Chairman Terry McAuliffe.
Clark said he's been "traveling all over this country" since he left military service and he is concerned with how the administration has handled longtime allies, like those in Europe.
"This is an administration which really hasn't respected our allies," he said.
Clark said one thing he learned in the Kosovo campaign is "if you really want allies, you've got to listen to their opinions, you've got to take them seriously, you've got to work with their issues."
If Clark decides to run, he would be joining a Democratic field that is about to grow to eight this coming week. Former Illinois Sen. Carol Mosely-Braun and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich (news, bio, voting record) are preparing to file papers to run for president.
Already in the race are former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, North Carolina Sen. John Edwards (news, bio, voting record), Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry (news, bio, voting record), Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman (news - web sites) and the Rev. Al Sharpton.
At 2/17/03 01:26 PM, Shrapnel wrote: Nor am I saying this is a black and white issue....
Yeas you are
What I am saying is that the US has good intentions.
Economics is a factor but global security is a bigger one. Although Bush has poor timing in pressing for a war with Iraq and the arguments seem weak, I do not see his decision as being 100% wrong as many of you state.
Then UN isn't going to avoid war if no diplomatic situation can be reached, but the fact is war doesn't have to be used yet
I do not ask you guys to agree with me but rather argue points beyond 'Bush is dumb' 'War is bad'.
I don't argue those points, but war should be a last resort. Personaly I would rather exhuast all other options before we kill 10 000 innocent people. I guess you don't though.
I am a Canadian and a soldier and I fully support our ally, the United States of America.
Ally?! Ally?!! I'm not even going to touch that one.
Have a nice day everyone.
You to.
Another Rant From A Different Canadian:
Look I'm not completly opposed to war, and I'm not anti-war to make some sort of "fashion statement," but when you're dealing with war you have to deal with death. Thats not somthing we should take lightly. I believe Iraq should be stripped of any weapons prohibited by previous UN resolutions, but this does not mean war is needed right away. Just give the UN a chance, give peace a chance. There is still a prospect that the situation can be resolved without military force. The UN is there for a reason, all countries should be able to work witnin the UN to reach a solution. I mean if nothing can be sorted out through the UN then fine, go to war, hell I'll even support it. If you look at opinion polls you will se most people would support military action through the UN. However, what America is doing is not right. For one I question America's motives. I mean why would they mobilize 1/8 of their military to the region before UN inspections were even over? America doesn't want a peaceful solution. Bush said he want's peace, but he has done everything in his power to liable, slander, and hinder UN efforts.
I'm not against war for the simple fact that it's war, I'm against war because I believe war should be a last resort. I value human life, and I do not want the blood of innocent people on my hands. Thats just me though.
Maybe you can pull the trigger without consideration, not me though friend.
At 2/17/03 01:26 PM, Shrapnel wrote: I don't have time to debate or argue anymore but I cannot resist the urge to throw my 2 cents into this whole debacle.
Interesting, hit and run eh?
France that truly offends me right now. It is not the people I hate but the policy of the country.
As opposed to America's policy? Shall we bring up who financed Iraq? Shall we bring up who financed/trained Osama Bin Laden? Shall we bring up the Reagon era? Shall we bring up Bush's current fascist legislation?
They are letting Mugabe visit. It makes complete sense to let someone like him in with their anti-US view and 'let's let Saddam be' policy.
So? ...... http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/lf41/na/may00/nacs0501.htm
I doubt the majority of you have ever visited an oppressive country or lived in one. I have been to China many times and the people I met there didn't like the government but there's nothing they can do about it.
Revolution?
The situation in Iraq is parallel. The people there don't like Saddam but they can't do anything about it.
Which explains why the kurds are independant in Iraq?
The ones that do like Saddam are the ones that receive benefits for being pro-Saddam. Those of us living in a a free world where you can protest freely don't understand how impossible it is to protest in a society without free speech.
Your point?
All the anti-war arguments I read have the same hollow message: War is bad.
Well no shit. No one likes to see people dying. But this isn't a black and white issue.
No, an unjust war is wrong. If this were really about "freeing the Iraqi people" why didn't American do it ten years ago? Don't tell me it's about toppling a totalitarian regime. If you can't see America's alterior motives you're blind
There is nothing noble or just about deception.
Oh the US shouldn't invade Iraq or occupy it. What the shit. What was different when the US occupied Japan?
I don't know, let's think on that, maybe a world war?!
Look how they turned out. Much better than the expansionistic empire that sought to enslave Asia they were before. Japan tortured countless citizens during the war. Japan's attitude changed once the US dealt with its political structure.
No, the Japanese are still a ethnocentric people. Secondly they have yet to even recognize the atrocities they commited during World War One.
Now this is not a 1 to 1 parallel to Iraq and I realize this so arguing it will just be a waste of your time.
Why bring it up if it doesn't fit, nor can you defend it?
Now Iraq tortures and executes to silence dissenters. If Saddam really cared about his people, he'd submit to UN. It's about his ego. Everyone talks about Bush being crazy. What about Saddam? Look at his track record. That guy only wants to fulfill his ego. Bush, although everyone accuses him of political gain, is actually in the right for once. Sure he may not be the best man for president and he's far from eloquent but is stopping a totalitarian regime wrong?
As I've stated earlier, if that was America's true motive it would have been accomplished 12 years ago.
Are we supposed to let a country with extreme views that could threaten the security of the world get away?
No, war may not be needed though, why are you in such a rush to kill?
You all preach history but have you all forgotten how the USA held back while the Nazis stormed Europe?
Instead of jumping in earlier, the US jumped in late... maximizing the loss of life.
No ones preaching in-action, but war should be a last resort.
I suppose the logic is to wait for Saddam to threaten our borders before we take action.
Hahahahaha
I'm sick of everyone who preaches against war like a fashion statement. Your arguments are usually hollow and satisfy teenage rebellion psychology. You all forget what kind of freedoms your parent, the USA, gives you.
Parent? What freedoms has America gureenteed Canada? Many countries worked to protect freedom and world peace. The UN worked to protect freedom and world peace. Canada worked to protect freedom and world peace. No one should feel in-debted to America.
Then there's the group that preaches Vietnam as a 'mistake'. You know what the mistake was? Protesters and gov't officials that agreed not to invade Vietnam and hold off the border.
Press. Johnson started the police action over the gulf of token inncident, which was probably fabricated, before there ever was a single protest.
That's why the US lost the war in Vietnam. Because of idiots who said we couldn't invade North Vietnam. Of course you're going to lose a war if you just hold off the border.
What are you on smack? No one wanted the Americans there, they couldn't even control the south.
Besides, if America invaded N Vietnam how do you think China would respond? How did China respind during the Korean War?
That's what the world has been trying to do to Saddam.
Please, check yourself
They've been trying to contain Saddam with sanctions and a bunch of red tape.
Care to look at the current resolutions?
Well it's obviously not working. He's still going to make weapons and oppress his people. His people starve while he feasts in his palace. Just because he hasn't been in the spotlight for the past 10 or so years doesn't mean he's gotten better or changed his ways.
Then why didn't America do somthing 10 years ago?
If the US doesn't police the world... who will? Who will defend the innocent? I'm not saying the US always makes the right decisions.
THE FUCKING UN, it's called collective security.
Things I would do:
1) Shoot a hostage, simply, they're going to die anyway.
2)Take the gun and shoot the leader. If I'm going to die I might as well take my enemy out with me.
Things I would not do:
1) Just be killed
Blair is a pupet, really he's a disgrace to the UK.
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• Mexico City: 10-15,000
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• Tel Aviv: 1500
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• Iraklio: 4000
• Patras: 3500
• Prague: 1000
• Quito: 250
• Rethimno: 2000
• Rhodes: 2000
• Santiago: 3000
• Taipei, Tampere: 2000
• Tudela: 5000
• Turku: 5000
• Volos: 3000
