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How many hours do you think it would take you to do though?

I would say that $20/hour is way too low considering that being an artist isn't a physical labour job and actually requires years upon years of experience to be able to do properly, additionally if you're doing part of this traditional, the hourly rate should compensate for the materials included.

If I had to give a number, I would probably say bare minimum $45 an hour, leaning towards a higher number - especially if you don't know them personally.

Given that, _if I know my shit correctly_ , the average professional visual artist goes for $70/hour on average.

But if you work really slow and the estimated time multiplied with the hourly rate becomes ludicrous, then you'd probably want to lower the rates accordingly to equal out the time required to finish.

At 4/9/12 04:46 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: - Your lack of experience may be more of an inconvenience to the company, rather than a boon. Somebody else in the company has to take on the responsibility of supervising your work, to make sure you're not hashing it up.

This. If you're paying for a job than you probably were unable to get into a conventional means of learning because of your lack of skill. So those people wouldn't be contributing to any of the companies products so what would the point be, it just turns back into paying for work experience.
Unless they decide to be dicks and give him the 'go get this for this person' jobs rather than what they paid for.

At 4/9/12 06:06 PM, Lucky wrote: Holy shit Kuoke, i didn't realise you watched Jessie Cocks and TB's stuff :D Awesome fan comic on DA!

Thanks cuz, he still copies/pastes the same description in all his skyrim videos so I get a spike of views every time. -_-

At 4/9/12 08:55 AM, Aigis wrote: At least with education you're actually getting, um, an education.

Yes, you get a school education in a school, well said. But you would also get a working 'education' out of a work environment. There are people on this planet who don't do well in school purely because the set up of the generalised education system isn't their style of learning.
If the option was at least offered for people to go for an alternative route to achieve the same goal, namely experience, then I don't see the problem.

At 4/9/12 08:16 AM, Aigis wrote:

At 4/9/12 07:38 AM, Kuoke wrote: I skimmed, but wouldn't this be the same principle as paying to go to a university? It's all experience so presumably if what ever they're involved in has some sort of respectable status in the industry I would think writing down that you worked here on your resume is the same as saying you went to a university course for however long.

I think it's more the equivalent of saying "I'm a chump who'll pay my way into slave labour. Working for nothing is a step up from my last job. Don't pay me anything."

I would say the same thing to people who pay for an education. At least with this one [assuming they're a legitimate thing] you're getting actual work experience.

At 4/9/12 07:21 AM, Re2deemer wrote: I know the topic of working for free is something that comes up often 'round here, thanks to all the request threads. But there's something....I don't even know what to call it. Just see for yourselves.

Paying to work for free, found via CGTalk.

"30% of the workforce at our digital studio down in Florida, is not only going to be free, with student labor, its going to be labor thatâEUTMs actually paying us for the priviledge of working on our films."

I skimmed, but wouldn't this be the same principle as paying to go to a university? It's all experience so presumably if what ever they're involved in has some sort of respectable status in the industry I would think writing down that you worked here on your resume is the same as saying you went to a university course for however long.

At 4/7/12 06:37 AM, J-qb wrote: gkdasngdso

By this logic you'd say that movie critics make for good movie directors no?
The purpose of that thread was to find flaws in an image that wasn't created by anyone in particular - finding flaws in a work that isn't your own has bare minimum effects on your own skill.

Bringing in the 'good intentions' card is stupid also.

Pretty certain the first one is Bebas Neue.

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cringemore.com/latest for the quickest updates on this.

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  Red Light Black Light 3, page 1. updated Tuesdays and Saturdays, if you want to see them as soon as they're uploaded, head to cringemore.com/latest

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At 5 days ago, ZaneZansorrow wrote: I've downloaded the zip file and looked through them all, I like how there is some progress in skills in your images as I go by but it looks like anatomy is still an issue for you.

Yes.

Meanwhile...

At 11 minutes ago, Revo357912 wrote:

At 33 minutes ago, Spaghetti14 wrote:

At 15 minutes ago, Revo357912 wrote: I feel like there should be a comic/Manga section in Art Tab here on Newgrounds. Anyone agree or disagree?

It's all part of art anyways, you don't have a forum for any other style/subgenre of art. Just look around for it, and if it's yours that you're interested in sharing, then make an art thread and put all your work in it! :)

Besides, the concept of how much crap would flood it is unfathomable.

Thats true, but I Comics/Manga tends to be different than just art, since it also tends to have a continuous storyline. If its just submitted into the art section, then it would be harder to keep track of new additions to the comic and manga. I just believe that this should have a separate area since story-telling is the main element of a comic and/or manga.

Are you talking about the other tabs like 'illustration' and 'fine art' because I really don't think anyone uses those.
If you want to follow anyone in particular, favourite them and they'll appear in your activity feed. (Otherwise click the star icon in your user bar at the top of the page)

Honestly, I don't think there's even enough extensively long comics to warrant a specifically 'comics' section. Even then, they should be putting it up on other sites that are more catering towards that sort of thing.

At 24 seconds ago, Kuoke wrote: and images that took more than a single day to complete.

*and excludes images that took more than a single day to complete.

Remember that time I said I'd do an image a day before it was cool? I finally went back to check the numbers and the results are below. That includes I believe 2 alternate images and images that took more than a single day to complete.

And now because I have a website I can upload them all into a zip file for all to question.

Jokes that select people will understand hooray!

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  Every time you gather mats in TERA your character acts like they just saved the entire galaxy. cringemore.com/latest for sporadically updated comics.

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cringemore.com has been redesigned again.

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  Sintirona. by Kuoke

  Santorini (like, a word jumble or something.) cringemore.com just updated to version 4 as well. it takes a few visual cues from newgrounds so sue me.

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How many wips can I fit into one attachment?

At 1 hour ago, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 20 hours ago, Spaghetti14 wrote:

At 1 day ago, Kuoke wrote: Not one but TWO Wips.

The second one almost reminds me of Minas Tirith

I see it more as Osgiliath

This seems like a good time to say it's supposed to be based off Santorini.

I screenshot-ted this wip a few days ago but forgot to post it so now I have another wip of what it looks like now so I'll post that later.

I redesigned cringemore.com again.

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Can't you use whatever you're using to save your image files to resize them to the 'include image' requirements?
Also, simply pasting the url of the image will create a fancy looking link:

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  Cure Lemonade of Pretty Cure. by HandoKaiser

  Cure Lemonade, from "Yes! Pretty Cure 5" and GoGo, in Ken Ishikawa's art style with an little bit of my touch. :3 Done this in just pencil and ink over it. Hope you like it. :3 Pretty Cure belongs to Toei.

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Not one but TWO Wips.

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At 20 hours ago, Flowers10 wrote:

At 9 hours ago, Kuoke wrote:

At 4 minutes ago, Kuoke wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/kuoke/man

Probably should've uploaded this image instead blargh.

Ireally like what i see on this page, did you spend more time into these?

Man / Beetle yes, the other two, not really.

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At 4 minutes ago, Kuoke wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/kuoke/man

Probably should've uploaded this image instead blargh.

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This was supposed to be a fish.

Image on page 1.

Based off the image on Page 2.

At 4 hours ago, Kuoke wrote:

At 1 hour ago, Kuoke wrote: ACTION.

+1 hour. I don't think I can add to this so this is probably finished.

I uploaded it because.

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  Orange. by Kuoke

  1 hour speed paint.

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Don't know if I'll work on this or not. Result of inability to draw for the last couple of hours.

At 1 hour ago, Kuoke wrote: ACTION.

+1 hour. I don't think I can add to this so this is probably finished.