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At 2/7/10 01:29 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 2/6/10 08:47 PM, jeeshwa123 wrote: wow! that's awesome! I didn't think so many people would want to color it ^^

I just wish as many people would want to colour my line art :(

Sorry it took me so long to get around to it jonny, but here you go :P

I still kind of suck with color though....

At 2/6/10 05:06 PM, ashman112 wrote: you lose because its not a creature, its human, kinda

I can live with this.....

although I prefer to go down in battle..... >.>...

At 2/6/10 04:42 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: So I just received this pm

At 30 minutes ago, windowskiller wrote: I will be needing your art for the Game Trailer Collab byFeb 15.
Please reply, thanks.
Remember toPM me all your work

What the hell? I didn't say I was gonna provide any artwork for him. Especially with him being a lazy ass and all. Anyone else get a PM from him?

I got the initial one a few weeks ago, but I never replied.....
but I haven't gotten another one yet....

At 2/6/10 10:07 AM, altrian wrote: posted art

.......and we all lose o.o.......

used to have to do this exercise in my life drawing classes all the time, might be fun to do it again

I know this is in violation of the rules of the COW....
but to be honest I really don't consider the people I based this off of as human exactly..

they say a artist has to pull from life experiences of him and the people around him :P

but either way since I did it here it is..... another comedy entry......
So here it is my bottom Feeder

Bottom Feeder.
"This repulsive creature works efficiently at causing mayhem with in families and drain the wallets and bank accounts of the men they target. The only sure way to avoid such a fate is to avoid the creature entirely. if this cannot be done the next best suggestion is to kill it with fire, and lots of it. Not only is killing this creature on site the law is 16 states but it is your duty as a human."
~ creatures other name includes, "Trailer Trash, Skank, Home Wrecker, Whore and OMFG WTF IS THAT!!!!1!11!!!"

At 2/6/10 08:30 AM, Vandal2 wrote: I'm dropping out, my laptop has been a massive pain.
Good luck to all further contestants!

Don't give up yet... there are still a few more days left. your laptop could straighten up in time :D

Never Give Up! Never Surrender!

At 2/6/10 03:41 AM, ornery wrote:

At 2/6/10 03:26 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: do you follow the formula that you gave earlier, or are you a little nicer with your prices?

Depends, if im selling to a friend or friend of a friend im a bit nicer. Otherwise i stick to that formula pretty close, and have had success with it.

The biggest price jacker (when it comes to anything actually) is the middle man, aka the gallery, dealer or museum. When they take a % the artist will tend to up the price accordingly. Also the dealer has their own processing and staffing fees that get thrown in. (and dont forget shipping when it applies, even though its not that much in comparison to everything else)

I think that many of us face the same middle man problem when it comes selling our art work. Sure we could sell our works ourselves, but honestly salesmanship is an art form of it's own.
But I guess if we were looking to try and sell our selves, there is always things like First Fridays and other local art walks. Then we have Conventions and then the internet. So if we wanted to deal ourselves it could be done, but I don't think many of us would have much luck.

So has anyone else tried to sell there work them selves? (e-bay, etasy, cafepress etc... not dA )

At 2/6/10 03:05 AM, ornery wrote: Print Limits

I get the point of the editions thing, (Trading Card Games whore this out a lot)
But even now, paintings can be reproduced anymore. although I admit not as simply as just hitting the print button on the copier, but all the same.
Ad for material cost, I can truly understand that. even crappy oil paints cost me a couple more bucks then I think it's worth some times. but sometimes the I feel the mark up between dealer and artist is sometimes a little much don't you think? (dA being a prime example of this).
do you follow the formula that you gave earlier, or are you a little nicer with your prices?
with me I feel it is a different example when it comes to living off my art. Although I do live off my art, it's not in a traditional sense since my profession of a Media artist...

At 2/6/10 02:46 AM, ornery wrote: To illustrate all that how bout a quick formula...

START: Oil Painting 3x4 foot canvas 6 hour at $15 an hour = $90
$90 + $30 labor = $120
$120 + $45 supply/ material cost = $165
$165 + $75 frame = $240
$240 + $150 creative attachment fee = $390
FINAL PRICE FOR A PIECE WHEN YOU ARENT FAMOUS AND NOT IN DEMAND: $390
If shown in gallery 50% cut taken from artist, most artists will double the price, so suddenly $390 = $780

Now how certain pieces reach the millions is a bit rough to say, stuff is definetly over priced, but hopefully you get the idea of how stuff is priced.

this is a great formula, but lets take it back down to a more localized level. Very few use of us are gallery level. What about prints or duplicates? Those seem, to me, to be in a different bracket rather than original works. Which makes me question the pricing of places of dA and a few other internet sellers.
Iets take something I know more about. I know ir cost something llike 150 to 200 dollars to have a both at the Phoenix Comicon, (500 For merchants) so what justifies for some (stressing the "some" part) of them to sell ther prints for 10 bucks or more?

sweet, just scored 4 boxes of pizza for driving a buddy home...
it's nights like this that I'm glad for friends in the food service business...

....yeah...
gotta draw the line somewhere, even in the unscouted section

At 2/5/10 04:32 PM, M-Vero wrote:

At 2/4/10 10:55 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: he tells them he is a NG mod and they line up at his door :P

You made me almost spit out my drink

my job is done here...
:P

face it you want to be a mod for the women now

At 2/5/10 11:55 PM, ThePeanutShark wrote: yes i notice that the fire rock looks like its from mars

it does?....
I think there is to much negative pace and the piece seems... empty...
perhaps if there were more to the "Fire and Ice" the it would look better

At 2/5/10 11:25 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: So guys, since we are at the drawing stage, what should i draw here? :)

i can do something monoprintish.

I still think you could handle some really awesome grunge textures. the mono printing you do gives a very worn feel, which is kind of the feel a cyberpunk world needs

At 2/5/10 11:35 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 2/5/10 11:17 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: ....it's still a mac..... it's the dark side.

If a mac was the dark side, I'd probably go on a murderous rampage. Never compare Mac's to the dark side. If a mac had to be something from the Star Wars universe, they would be Gungans - when anyone calls them awesome, you just laugh in their face and never talk to that person again.

that has to be the best reference I have heard in a long time :P
and you are right jonny, you are right indeed

At 2/5/10 11:27 PM, faggotss wrote:

At 1/31/10 05:10 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: Here is my New link picture
complete with Pulp Fiction References

Well Excussssssssssse Meeeee Princess. That Voice sort of reminded me of Wheeler from Captain Planet, Maybe it was the same voice actor.

Maybe it was.... :P
look it up and get back to me with your findings

you know.... I think I'm going to do some live streaming tonight

At 2/5/10 11:15 PM, Snowman wrote:

At 2/5/10 07:35 PM, ashman112 wrote: i use macs quite often, am i on the dark side?

I am forced to use a mac in my art class...

At 2/5/10 07:37 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: depends..... do you use a white mac or a black mac

Silver Actually

....it's still a mac..... it's the dark side.

although the dark side has cookies o.0....

lol I have been forced to used a mac or two from time to time. and I admit they are powerful.... but ... they lack what I love..... Games!!!

face it you thought I was going to say porn >.>......

At 2/5/10 10:48 PM, logmiesta22 wrote: Maybe this could be a loading screen. I could change the color scheme to match the winners.

it's like the program Icon mated with a kaleidoscope and had a ugly buy funny child o.0....

At 2/5/10 07:35 PM, ashman112 wrote:

At 2/5/10 07:18 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:

At 2/5/10 06:16 PM, havegum wrote: I would mention Macs

DONT YOU DARE TRY TO CONVERT HIM TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had to :P.....

i use macs quite often, am i on the dark side?

depends..... do you use a white mac or a black mac

At 2/5/10 07:30 PM, havegum wrote:

At 2/5/10 07:18 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: DONT YOU DARE TRY TO CONVERT HIM TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE me, Kinsei!

I couldn't resist it ...

I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU IN YOUR SLEEP !!!!!

this is going to haunt me for a while, isn't it o.0.....

At 2/5/10 06:16 PM, havegum wrote: I would mention Macs

DONT YOU DARE TRY TO CONVERT HIM TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had to :P.....

At 2/5/10 01:57 PM, pug36009 wrote:

At 2/5/10 11:14 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: here we go finally.
any feed back guys?

A little impractical for an application icon

kind of the point of asking for feed back though..
which one do you think is impractical?
I have the smaller versions made up as well, but I just decided to show the 3 biggest for the detail.

all vector so resize is simple

I thought you were going to stream this morning?

here we go finally.
any feed back guys?

At 2/5/10 08:07 AM, ashman112 wrote:

At 2/5/10 06:47 AM, Kinsei01 wrote:

sorry Ashy I hope I didn't disappoint you this time.....

i can do my own work, so dont worry, ill do it later

now wheres altrians entry

I still feel bad about it though....

Every time I try to draw a "Bottom Feeder" I keep drawing certain relatives

although I am proud of that :P

At 2/5/10 07:59 AM, J-qb wrote: Apparently, it is actually possible to have good conversations about art.
e.g. past wednesday, the sculpture "L`Homme qui marche I" (Walking Man I) by swiss impressionist Alberto Giacometti was auctioned for 65 million GBP (%u2248105 million USD) at sothesby`s London. Thus taking its place as the most expensive piece of art ever auctioned.
I saw the sculpture along with other work of Giacometti at an exhibition at the Rotterdam Kunsthal, and it is a very impressive work of art. It might very well be the most beautifull sculpture I know, still one could argue that 105 million is a lot of money.
discuss; What makes certain pieces of art so valuable? Do you think this is justified?

I remember hearing about that on the news.
I guess when rich guys got money to burn....
I don't know, As an artist myself, I never had the desire to own many pieces of displayable art. I say displayable because I love to have books filled to the dust cover with art. But those I mostly look in to for reference and study.
So when it comes to people wanting to spend there money on art pieces I say let them. but for 105 million? Wow, Just wow. I just don't understand the point of so much for one piece. But I guess if they can afford it....

rather have a nice car over a statue any way, but thats just me....

but to be honest the only type of art I'm really annoyed at for selling at high prices is a majority of Outsider Art

At 2/5/10 07:16 AM, J-qb wrote: I think it would be okay to just incidentally mention stuff like double dipping on here, but I dont see the point in making a big conversation about it...

it's 5:21 in the morning.... the one time I seem to actually be on lately.... and I got bored... so I tried to start a conversation

...with who, I have no clue, but at least I tried.

I know this is one of those things "Should be in General"
but come on, I want to have a good conversation, not have my IQ drop like a hot rock....

At 2/5/10 07:17 AM, J-qb wrote:

At 2/5/10 06:47 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: you know, I think I may have to set this one out...
I'll keep trying over the next few days, but I got nothing for this one...
the only solid idea I do have is like a automatic disqualification so :(...

sorry Ashy I hope I didn't disappoint you this time.....

sorry to hear that... but whats with that pic?...

thats not the entry >.>....
that was me just goofing off....
.....goofing.......

goofing....