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Reason is perfect for classical/orchesteral pieces. The fact all the included soundbanks are duty free, and there are so many others available make it perfect for the job, even if not to publish your composition, but only to hear what it would sound like if it was actually played as it should be.

As for me, I love reason, but i havnt composed a single song complely on it. This is mostly because of the latancy issues between the midi surfaces and the actual program due to what it has to do to make the sound. I compose all my sounds on cubase sx3 (which is another great program) then re-wire them across to reason, or if i'm in the mood, midi-import them. I wouldnt say reasons the best for purely making the music, but for making a compositions excelent, its perfect. You cant really put a midi track on the AP and get away with it. Trust me, i've tried.

If you want to loop a song you just made, best bet is to save the unlooped 'section' of the music, i.e the bit that repeats, and put it in a wave editor. Next, find the very end of the loop, and select everything after it, (normaly its reverberations from the instruments). Now cut the end, and mix it back in the front again. This makes a pretty seamless loop. I think fruityloops and am sure reason can do looping automaticaly.

At 8/8/05 11:44 AM, Theblackhawk wrote: um, theres only a very small amount of artists on here that have worked with vocals...

*sigh*

Time to get involved. This is my personal meathod of adding vocals.

-Live recording

Right, first of, record ALL the backing music and finalize it as a wav file or whatever filetype is most basic with you. Open up your audio recording software (i use soundforge 8 ^^. STFU goldweave), get microphone set up, lyrics on screen, set it to record at the same bitrate as the backing track. This is IMPORTANT, especialy if you cant be bothered to resample. Now, put on some good quality headphones, plug em in, play the backing track and record the vocals. Its important to use headphones as then the backing track dosnt get recorded along with the vocals. If you are having more than one vocalist, either split the headphone output (you need a special jack m-f spliter which i always have trouble finding) or just record both sets seporatly.

>>SKIP TO HERE IF THE VOCALS ARE ALREADY RECORDED<<

Delete any 'silence' before the start of the audio using editing tools, so when you press play, it starts on the first bit of the first word. Open up the backing track in another window in the same editor, (soundforge meathod) select all the vocals, go to the backing track and position the cursor at the point you want the vocals to come in. (the point at which the first word is starting to be sung). Then right click and hit mix, then OK. Viola. done.

Its always eaisier to do it inside the same program that you did the music in itself, (Cubasis SX and Reason are quite good for that. Fruityloops less so) because then you can balance and image the sound as you see fit to go along with the track.

Right, now thats over with, have fun with your track(s) and i hope to see them on the AP soon ;).

I agree that fruityloops can be quite powerful, when coupled with sample creating tools, but i'm just one of those people firmly against using other people samples. As to provide for a balenced argument, i've seen windows sound recorder used to amazing potential before.

I got a question.

Why use fruitloops when you can use real music software to origional results instead of limited sampling and beatbox meathods that produces pretty much the same style of music all the time.

Did ParagonX9, probably the most acclaimed music artist on the AP use fruityloops? No he did not. He used Reason 2.5. I use Reason 3.0, both of which are software which requires reasonable ammounts of musical knowledge to even get started in the first place.

Ok I appreciate its easy to use, and i'll even appreciate that not everyone is comfortable with Reasons hefty £600 price tag, bu t as far as I see it, any program where you dont actually have to be able to play an instrument isnt a decent piece of music software.

Fruityloops is to audio what Swish is to flash. Cheap.

oOoO. I got me some groupies :D

I sign again. if its possible to do that, it is. I'm worth 4 people.

I, as a fellow musisian, sign this pentition.