At 2/14/08 09:20 PM, Gergaloth wrote: I liked iron giant...

Me too; a lot! Then there was Titan A.E. too. I get chills every time I see that beginning sequence...

At 2/14/08 09:17 PM, willobeen wrote:

At 2/14/08 09:16 PM, bahman14 wrote: yeah, 2d is dead, in movies at least. Here its strong as ever

not true, disney just released that they're going to start making traditionally animated films as soon as spring 2008.

Yeah, the Princess and the Frog. It's success might determine the future of 2D.

Wasn't this one of Mac's selling points? I seem to remember that "hip young mac guy" talking about it.

So, if you're as big of an animation geek as I am, you know that the last 20 years or so have been considered a renaissance of sorts for animation. After the 1950-60s, the vast majority of toons being made used limited animation and were shown on TV (think Scooby-Doo). Around the 1990s, there was a surge of animated movies after the wild popularity of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and most of the Disney classics that our generation grew up with were made during this time (Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King).

In recent years, there's been a dramatic shift toward 3D animation, and a lot of people think 2D is dead. I mean, even Disney was going to give up on 2D (they changed their minds, ironically, after their merger with Pixar). There haven't been hardly any memorable 2D movies in the recent years, and those that were made were box office flops (think Iron Giant). Is there a future for 2D, or is it going to die out?

My prediction: Despite the advantages of CG animation, there's a lot it can't do. I think once the rush towards perfect CG realism is accomplished, the whole entertainment industry will split off into many different directions, 2D animation being one of those.

Is that a picture of a happy ovarian cyst?

That kind of ruined the sad ending...

What is Art Discussion

I make art for other people. Nothing is half as exciting, for me at least, as creating something and having other people appreciate it. I think that's why I like NG so much, where else can you get instant feedback on a grand scale?

I also like the process, and thinking about the ending. When I'm done working on a picture, it seem kind of useless to me...

I've never found words to be inadiquate for expression, so the idea of expressing things through art because that's the only way you can put it seems silly to me. How is menstrating on paper any clearer than simply writing "Feminisim," "Un-Sanitary," or "Disgusting" on the wall? Modern art usually ticks me off; sure, they say they're expressing something through art, but the only way it'll make sense is through them explaining it to you. True expression should need no explaination.

I've found that to get a perfect 30 FPS on a browser, you need to set it a little higher. Try 35 and you should see a framerate of 30-32 in the browser.

It isn't lag if it runs okay in a standalone player. The browser just tends to drop frames, so you need to compensate.

I agree about the toilet.

The pic is really good though, nice work!

At 2/11/08 08:31 PM, Winned wrote: Face

Eye is at 1/2 head, nose and ear start at eye and go down 1/2 face. Mouth lines up half way between the bottom of the nose/ear and the chin. The chin ends (and the earlobe sits) half way across the face horizontally. Also, remember the back of the head protrudes, and the neck starts 1/2 way down.

It's all about the halves.

Hey, these are really awesome!

Two suggestions:

If you use brass/copper like someone else said and screw the pieces into wood, it'll be really sturdy and you'll get an awesome steampunk feel.

Or

Use 2 part epoxy or silicone glue. Hot glue only works with porous surfaces. Silicon will glue anything, though; it's what they use to keep the glass in fish tanks together.

I love the designs though, you've got a good eye for details!

Hey, that's awesome! Did you squish her horizontally in the last pic though? She looks better without that.

Hey guys! I found a really great website on how to lay out character designs and animate using the basic principals: Link!!

At 2/8/08 10:36 PM, simon wrote:

At 2/8/08 10:35 PM, MissingNYC wrote: its all the retarded crews fault

get the fuck out you ignorant prick.

Haha, I agree with MissingNYC.

So, does anyone else notice the sudden surge of 4.30+ flashes that totally suck? Is this a result of the redesign giving noobs more voting power or something? It seems like they jump up to the top of the top 50 list, then suddenly fall off in a week or two...

Nice thread!

I think I liked the last one better without the highlights...

But Bob says, "a community is only as strong as its weakest member" and someone still using AOL for email seems pretty weak to me.

I epic lawled.

still am...

At 1/30/08 02:18 AM, SymPathetic wrote:

At 1/30/08 02:08 AM, Kajenx wrote: -Jesus grows up and tells a lot of stories. (Note: "Boy who Cried Wolf" was also written around this time.)

Actually, that was written about 600 years prior.

"(Note: These notes do not follow any particular order.)"

XD

"-Noah creates the first floating zoo and kills unicorns by accident. (Note: These notes do not follow any particular order.)"

pwned

I lawld.

This is for all of you who missed church last Sunday.

THE BIBLE

-First there is nothing; then there is God. (Note: this is highly disputed.)

-Second there is nothing; then there is God. (Note: All good stories have two beginnings.)

-God gets lonely and makes man. (Note: This is also considered God's first mistake. [Sub Note: God is perfect.])

-Man gets lonely and God creates woman from man. (Note: Man later reverses the process.)

-Woman is tempted by snake and eats forbidden fruit. (Note: Hey, it sounds dirty in the Bible too...)

-Man and woman thrown violently from Garden of Eden. (Note: God is all forgiving...wait...)

-A lot of other stuff happens.

-Moses hits a rock and water shoots out of it.

-More stuff happens.

-Echo falls in love with Narcissus and- oops, wrong notes...

-Noah creates the first floating zoo and kills unicorns by accident. (Note: These notes do not follow any particular order.)

-Abraham is sterile but has a bunch of kids. (Note: Vasectomies are only 99.9% guaranteed.)

-Lucifer rejects God and makes the Kingdom of Hell. (Note: Dante lied, it's actually quite nice down there.)

-God kills everyone; a bunch of times. (Note: God is all forgiving.)

-God has a tantrum and throws lightning around. A stray bolt hits a rock next to Moses and writes out a bunch of petty laws.

-More stuff happens.

-A virgin has a baby named Jesus. (Note: Virginity is only 99.9% guaranteed.)

-Jesus grows up and tells a lot of stories. (Note: "Boy who Cried Wolf" was also written around this time.)

-Jesus falls prey to politicians and is nailed to a cross.

-Jesus makes bread and fish appear. (Note: Jesus was slated as best magician of the era, but was beaten by Aristotle.)

-Paul writes a bunch of letters.

-The end.

- God kills everyone again.

At 1/20/08 06:54 PM, MiddleFingerRings wrote: How about an outcast from society? Or must it be an outcast at sea?

You're thinking of a castaway.

The flash looks cool. Gotta love that song.

Hmmm, I liked the other one better...

Pwned!

At 1/17/08 12:50 AM, fetusdoctor wrote: With characters like that it looks like you would need to make a sprite sheet for any type of game. Cool character, but is it worth redrawing him in 20 different poses?

Sure! That was the plan. Animation is more fun than programming anyway.

Thanks for the suggestions!

He's supposed to look a bit ridiculous, but maybe I overdid it, hmmm...

Wow, great stuff! I really like the blue wolf.

I keep drawing these cool characters but then I never come back to them. I think I'm going to take a break from my platformer project and whip up a fighting game around this dude.

Goal: I'm going to make it on the top 50 this year! :3

@Tom: I was wondering about those tank trophies. How are they going to be awarded? Is it a voting thing or are you guys at the office going to award them a la executive decision.

Epic lawl.

Huh, I was having some other problems with my comp/Internet, so I ran a virus scan and had some stuff on there. After that and a restart everything went back to normal.