At 11/25/09 01:52 PM, JKMonkey wrote: He's the shit, I would suck off a guy to go to one of his shows.

*unzips*

Anyway, Iggy had a momentary lapse. He's far from the hard sell-outs. But still, he could have done it with better class, Dylan only sold out to Victoria's Secret.

At 11/25/09 12:26 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: Johnny Rotten too!

If I'd have shown him this advert in '77 he'd probably be in the ground with Sid.

Mother... FUCKERS!

I mean, ok, I've never really cared that much for Sex Pistols, but still. Fuck.

That... ad... what... the what?

Still, short of cutting his hair and joining the Tories, there's very few things that could de-cool Iggy.

At 11/25/09 05:55 AM, Carbon wrote:

At 11/25/09 05:51 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Debating is one way of "trolling".

Only on the Internet.

Not exactly, have you heard of "filibustering"?

I would certainly be a hippie, though I don't realy look the part. I got short hair and generally dress somewhat neatly. But then, I have one of these flags on my wall, and my kitchen is full of empty Kik Bean tins.

It's the G.I.F.T.

Anyway, yeah. It allso depends on the pllatform. Forums are pretty bad, but try debating on, say, comment section, chatrooms or imageboards, things move so fast, the slightest consession is interpreted as giving up. That kind of debate only retards everyone to the same level of shouting buzzwords.

At 11/23/09 08:54 PM, hhcash wrote: This ruins my entire philosophy and intergrety of LGBT life, which is peace and love and kindness. Life sucks...

My philosophy is Peace When Possible, Violence When Necessary.

At 11/24/09 12:00 AM, H-K-S wrote: Dre.
Eazy E
N.W.A.

lolno. NWA maybe, Cube, MC Rem, sure. But Dre and E... no.

Public Enemy, Paris, Dead Prez, The Coup, Jedi Mind Tricks, Aesop Rock, CunningLynguists, Common (early stuff), Ice T, K-Rino and The Roots.

At 11/23/09 08:50 AM, Mr-Money wrote: They say climate change skeptics are "irrating" and should be ignored. They say the debate should be limited to how we stop climate change, not whether we need to in the first place.

This is different from "Sceintologists are irritating and should be ignored" or "proponents of intelligent design are irritating and should be ignored" how?

They say trends do not support the evidence, so we're going to have to lie and put out fake numbers.

No they don't.

This is just brutal. The entire Al Gore Church of Climtaology is coming to its knees. And it really is a church. Al Gore sequel to An Inconvenient Truth will focus on the "religious" aspects to how we should save the planet. This is getting out of control.

Tell me again, who profits from this? Aside from Al Gore getting money for hiis movie, sure.

At 11/23/09 08:04 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Do you have any idea the amount of risk involved with being an Entrepreneur or a venture capitalist? Do you have any idea how important the people who take these risks are?

Of course there's a risk, but that doesn't mean expolitation is fair.

Pu-lease. What a joke. Seriously, over 99% of beating competition is not done through child labour or other "unethical means".

Welll, then there's also saturating the market so that you force everyone else out, which is just Might makes Right. Just because most people buy from you doesn't mean your services are best, only that you sell the best.

And on other unethical measures, I',m talking about things like outsourcing to subcontractors, tax evasion, unecological pratises, stomping unions etc.

And besides, can you name a system that works better.
I mean, it's not as if there's been any exploitation or use of "unethical means" by communists now, has there? >_>

Because all leftists = Soviet Union and China.

I want a more just system that starts from restricting business.

At 11/23/09 05:46 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Slavery: violates freedom of other people ---> should not be a right

Ah, but in the justification of the timme, the slaves weren't people, so they didn't deserve equal rights.

Similarly (but not directly analogous) is the capitalist idea that those who are poor deserve to be poor and those who are rich deserve to be rich.

There is a truism that goes "There is no such thing as a honest millionaire". Do tell, if you know someone who got capital R Rich by their own hard, honest work alone, without: a) inheritance b) luck c) exploitation of other's weakness.

Besides, I'm not actuaklly for a completely state-run planned economy; I'm not a Soviet Communist, I want a more just system that doesn't benefit the greedy and ruthless. Capitalism rewards those who are the least ethical; if you stop to think wherther or not it's right to, say use child labor, the person who has no moral dilemma over that takes that niche, and lowers their production costs and gets past you in the competition.

At 11/23/09 05:10 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: Be a bit grateful that the type have changed and we're not as elitist as we once were.

What, really?

Anyway, haven't been watching much lately, should finish Gurren Lagann, but somehow just don't feel like it.

At 11/23/09 02:57 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
No you fucking dolt, I think having RIGHTS gives you freedom, and keeping the money you have earned is a RIGHT.

Right to own slaves used to be a right as well.

At 11/22/09 07:40 PM, Al6200 wrote: "Proving bad behavior here is very difficult. If you think that Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if we can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official AGU channels to get him ousted."

Operative word "official channels". No cloak and dagger shit. Note also "bad behaviour". Do you know this Saiers personally? Are you acquianted with his work? Why do you take at face value that he's just some martyr for your cause?

"Gene/Caspar, Good to see these two out. Wahl/Ammann doesn't appear to be in CC's online first, but comes up if you search. You likely know that McIntyre will check this one to make sure it hasn't changed since the IPCC close-off date July 2006! Hard copies of the WG1 report from CUP have arrived here today. Ammann/Wahl - try and change the Received date! Don't give those skeptics something to amuse themselves with."

"try and change the Received date", they're just cleaning the edges, because they know the climate sceptics, like all tinfoil hats will cling on to the smallest inconsistency.

"Yeah, it wasn't so much 1998 and all that that I was concerned about, used to dealing with that, but the possibility that we might be going through a longer - 10 year - period of relatively stable temperatures beyond what you might expect from La Nina etc. Speculation, but if I see this as a possibility then others might also. Anyway, I'll maybe cut the last few points off the filtered curve before I give the talk again as that's trending down as a result of the end effects and the recent cold-ish years."

Note the word "speculation".

Anyway, I'm not a climatologist, so I don't know that much about the whole decline thing. I will have to asks someone I know about this. But so far, i don't see damning evidence of a grand conspiracy.

At 11/23/09 04:01 AM, Memorize wrote: if you weren't so stupid
dumbass.
And you're an individual still living under the squeaky, creaking floor boards of a French Canadian Whore House.

Cool story, bro.

One gúy I knew used to be in a poly-amorous relationshiip with three girls. When Halloween rolled along, someone on the forums we went to joked "Christ, do you guuys have to takke a bank loan for valentines or something?"

Anywya, i think I have a solution to the lack of dates with people here; all we need is a place to meet up and a tanker-trunk of lube.

At 11/22/09 03:25 PM, Memorize wrote: "About that guy who was murdered in the back alley ... I know who did it."

PoxPower/JohnnyNutBag: "So what if he said 'I know who did it' right after a discussion on a murder. He could've been talking about ANYTHING! He could've been talking about a Soap tv show. Yeah, that's much more plausible!"

Using your rather inelegant simile, your lot would rather arrest someone who shouts "I did it" for whatever reason (such as completing a task they've been working on for a while) near a crime scene.

What you are doing is known as Quote Mining. Because damned if you care what code he is talking about and what sdecline and what he means by "trick" or "hide". They're scary words and can be taken out of context.

Also, you still fail to explain, how, even if these said scientists allegedly hid data (note that those messages date back around ten years), this all went unnoticed by the scientific community at large until now?

At 11/21/09 11:13 AM, MickTheChampion wrote: I could fart daisies and cough up gold but a western country is never going to vote for a socialist who wants to legalise all drugs.

Can we run on a joint platform?

Anyway, I've (albeit not for long) been on the election roster for the Left Alliance of Finland for a parliamentary election. Seeing where I'd be a candidate, I'd have a snowballs chance in hell in getting elected, even if I wasn't completely obscure.

And I'm pretty sure very few people here would vote for me, and the few who would I'd distance myself from anyway, since knowing the American fringe left, they probably are Soviet Symphasizers, and I'm not touching that can of worms.

At 11/22/09 10:48 AM, PaNicATtaCk64 wrote:

At 11/21/09 08:24 AM, camobch0 wrote: and currently have a girlfriend and a boyfriend.

I wish I had even ONE...

yes, and that too. Four things that piss me off in the initial post!

*shakes fist*

At 11/22/09 01:32 PM, poxpower wrote:
I

can't

believe

this

crap

Welcome to debating with conspiracy nuts 101. Your logic is no good here.

But lets make the following clear to nay-sayers:

When you publish a scientific study, it will be peer-reviewed which means people with expertise on the field go through your research and see if they can find faults in it. That's their job, to see if it's on solid ground. For a forgery to pass through the process would either imply gross incompotence, or a conspiracy among scientists

So we are left with three optiions:
1. The entire climatologist community are incompotent fools led by the nose by these few scheming neferious researches after monney and reputation
2. The etire scientific community is united in a grand conspiracy
3. You are reading way too much into a few emails taken out of context using specialist jargon

Yeah, let's see what Occams razor says.

At 11/22/09 03:01 PM, wtflolnoob wrote:

At 11/22/09 02:59 PM, JohnnyWang wrote: Dubstep is named so because it is derived from dub reggae, incorportaing the sound to a more modern tempo. Wherther or not rastafari listen to it is completely irrelevant.

no your irrelevant

Music is not defined by who listens to it.

Well, if you're talking about the devout rastafari of Jamaica, they don't actually listen to any secular pop music, just their own holy songs. And most of the 12 Tribes Rasta are more into rocksteady and classic reggae.

Dubstep is named so because it is derived from dub reggae, incorportaing the sound to a more modern tempo. Wherther or not rastafari listen to it is completely irrelevant.

I think polyamroy can work. Not really my cup of tea, but I don't condone nor condemn.

Also, someone remind me why we are taking all this messages at face value; considering they were allegedly obtained illegally by an anonymous ringer.

At 11/21/09 05:22 PM, Lost-Chances wrote: Eh, it's not assuming that it requires, but allows that annoys me. No one assume it's a requirement, but people assume "OH, YOU'RE BISEXUAL, YOU MUST DATE WOMEN AND MEN AT THE SAME TIME!". It fucking irritated me how someone I used to know used to get creeped out that I may look at men sexually while dating her. Which I just thought "why would I think of ANYONE else when I have you?".

Tangiently related thing, but a girl I liked and hung out with when I was 14-15 (she was dating someone at the time, so we never were an item) recently told me that she's also bi, and that it had caused trouble with her new boyfriend, who was really jealous, and when he found out, got really suspicious about her spending time with her female friends.

She was also the first person I came out to IRL, now that I think of it. I still love he, you know. She's the type of person you really don't get over like that. But we can never be, waht with her having achild and living in aanother city and other such trivialities.

I've been poor. I've been loveless. I say being poor is easier to cope with; that I'm used to.

So love, definitely. Money is nice, but I'm rubbish with it. Cash doesn't spend much time in my wallet.

At 11/21/09 05:12 PM, Lost-Chances wrote: 1. Cheating.
2. Bandwagon assumption.
3. You're drunk.

Bandwagon was right. The other things were "been bisexual for 4 months" and no, not the cheating, but the assumption that bisexuality requires polyamory and/or promiscuity.

And no, I am not drunk, you ARE alcohol, drunk of power, that is!

aactually I'm just really tired, which makkes me get all rambly.

At 11/21/09 12:04 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: Vampires are supposed to make Eastern Europeans cross themselves and mumble in distress and fear; not consider sex before marriage.

This.

Also, aside from the premise being utterly ridiculous, Meyer is also a really, really bad writer; she doesn't know how to construct a dramatic arh, she can't create proper conflict, she writes flat characters, who are also either author inserts or wish fulfilment.

Similar crap fill the bargain bins and sci-fi/fantasy sections of book stores. The difference is, that Twilight, instead of getting what it rightly deserves ("50% off" price tag), it, a subpar piece of shitty genre fiction is sold in stacks in the middle of respectable book stores.

Fucking monopoly. There's always that one family member that's really good at it who insist on playing it, while others would rather pelt him with the game pieces.

I have a moral objection to Twilight; it gives a really warped view of love. Innaccuracies conserning the already-contradictory vampire lore is reallly a secondary concern to me, and Edward's masculinity (or supposed sexual orientation which i really would want people to stop using as an insult) are just non-issues.

What are issues are the creepy stalker thing, the bad writing (lack of real conflict, purple prose, flat characters, obvious author insert/wish fullfilment), the stupid abstiencce only message, and the ABSOLUTELY BATSHIT INSANE vampire pregnancy bullshit.