At 7/16/07 05:10 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Well that's just swell, but you're not grasping the concept of my what I'm saying which is that people are going to complain no matter what. There will be complaints about what will be inevitable, ridiculously irrelevant little mistakes or shortcomings in the eyes of individual users, especially users who have given the redesign so much hype.

Or maybe not, maybe I'm wrong. I can only hope that the redesign will be so incredibly mindblowing that everyone will have a mental orgasm and nobody will complain and everyone will be 100% satisfied about it. But knowing human nature, that's not going to happen. People will find anything to complain about, and when they do, I'm there to laugh about their nonsense, because I do that, I take joy in the ridiculous behavior of other people, it gives me glee.

I was following you champ. I mean this is newgrounds people bitch about EVERYTHING here. I was trying to reason with the would-be complainers before that happened.

anyways cellar, I hope you like it.

At 7/16/07 04:37 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: I have a prediction:

Since everyone has been getting so worked up about the redesign, since it is getting so much hype and everyone is going crazy with anticipation, people are going to be horribly disappointed when it actually comes. It might be fine and dandy at first, but people are going to have all sorts of things to complain about within a day or two, worse than the current complaints that people have about the delay of redesign.

I predict that numerous threads will be made over the course of the first few months, with various things people will gripe about, many people saying things that amount to "I wish they never made a redesign, I want the old one back" or "They should have done this, why the hell did they do that?" etc...

I already know people will complain about the sig size, which according to a thread a while back is going to be longer, but skinnier, making picture-themed sigs even harder to create than they are now. Expect all kinds of things like that. There may even be glitches or problems that will make the new redesign no where near as glorious as people believe it will be, and they will bitch and moan accordingly.

So mark my words, the redesign is going to be a flop, and people are going to cry about it and I will laugh.

you know, you are the biggest negative nancy Ive ever seen on this site.

ive seen so many site redesigns that were just more cluttered, ad filled nonsense, but thats not us. when it launches, you should all spend atleast half an hour going through everything before making judgement...there's no way you'd want the old site back.

and thanks to jim and ross, adding new features is easier than ever before - many of which are planned out, but everything takes time.

At 7/16/07 04:02 AM, Bantilan wrote: Can I repost my Cyclops???? I didnt Notice That Thanks A lot John

yeah no problem....if you update, ill delete the old one.

At 7/16/07 03:44 AM, omfgItsZoidy wrote: I decided that I'm not sleeping or eating until the layout is released. Does NG want me to die?

i cant confirm or deny anything, but if and when the site was relaunched, it will be down for several hours. id get your sleep buddy.

damn you milburn...damn you.

id die happy if we could get the entire punch-out cast done in here...i think we're already halfway there.

At 7/16/07 03:43 AM, Bolo wrote: A warm pocket under the arm is where the initial span of the Newgrounds Layout's gestation might take place in the future. This saves Tom's body from the wear and danger of a nine month gestation period.

i WAS going to be more forthcoming, but bolo ruined it for you all.

good night.

At 7/16/07 03:26 AM, the-amazing-joe wrote:

At 7/16/07 03:22 AM, AlphaCentauri wrote:

At 7/16/07 03:21 AM, JohnnyUtah wrote:

At 7/16/07 03:20 AM, Craven-Dick wrote: What a informative thread

hey im just fucking around....

OR AM I?

DAMNIT STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEAD

I second that.
STOP FUCKING WITH ME UTAH!

its bobs fault. he started this mess.

At 7/16/07 03:20 AM, Craven-Dick wrote: What a informative thread

hey im just fucking around....

OR AM I?

At 7/16/07 03:18 AM, Agent-B-Animation wrote: Time for what? Tick tock suck my winky.

time for that time some of you have been waiting for...that time.

maybe.

tick tock tick tock....

At 7/15/07 08:43 PM, bob wrote: Anybody here as excited about tomorrow as I am......??

)

OH MAN!

bob you are walking on thin ice

At 7/16/07 12:26 AM, Bantilan wrote: Wats Ur comment on this

i'd just fix the side of the visor so the red doesnt extend so far left....here a really rough example

other than that lookin hot

At 7/15/07 09:40 PM, DarkShadow8181 wrote: would this be ok? it has 2 characters. but it fits so well together. i know the rules say limit to only 1. so if i have to take one out, i'll take the little red dude out. thanks.

i think its fine. you followed the rules, which is more than i can say for some people around here.

At 7/15/07 04:38 AM, rtil wrote:

At 7/13/07 10:16 PM, Wonchop wrote:

At 7/13/07 10:10 PM, swiftstylerX wrote: I know the original was FBF, I'm just saying that this is a simple tribute, and if you don't have a lot of time, then take the easy way out, lol.

Not to mention that since most of the new Transformers stuff (such as Energon, Cybertron and the movie) is done in 3D, it's technically all tweens anyway.

wrong.

lazy 3d animators do rely on the software to do all the work for them (like you), but good 3d animators do exactly what 2d (or what some call "frame-by-frame") animators do. pose-to-pose hand tweaked on 16's or 8's, then they break it down until it's all on 1's or 2's. Films like Ratatouille or Transformers - the one you mentioned - are completely void of "tweens".

i think it wouldnt be quite fair to compare ratatoulle..which i think was worked on for 3 years to a small staff that had to crank out several hours of animation for one season of an animated tv show - sure the shows sucked i think, but I dont think I'd call em lazy..they were probably working in sweatshop conditions to get that all done on time

I only feel bad for those people since I know what that was like. haha

I never thought I'd say it, but dammit that mario sprite make me laugh like a faggot.

At 7/13/07 11:47 AM, Ghosty22 wrote:

Yeah... I think that even Adam Phillips tweens... He's primarily a frame by frame guy, but if, you look closely, it seems as if he draws very few new frames. It looks as if the squash and stretch technique is all tweened. I'm not certain, but I think Dan Paladin uses similar methods.

I've found that tweening is very hard to do without, even if you try to be a frame by frame purist.

phillips and dan are two guys who use flash most efficiently..they are great animators, but know where tweening can occasionally save time.

At 7/13/07 05:14 AM, Bug wrote:

At 7/13/07 12:47 AM, Wonchop wrote: Just bear in mind, folks, that tweens aren't neccessarilly the scurge of flash. It's one of the freaking tools that comes with it. And since Tom's sticking potentially 40 of these things in, it also saves file space.

ignoring this collab for a moment tweens are always ugly and mechanical and make people lazy so they pretty much are the scourge of flash.

eh you just gotta use em tastefully - they're a tool but they're not a way out if you have no talent. i go alittle overboard on detail sometimes and my style is totally not suited for frame by frame animation....and I also dont like animating all that much - thank god for tweening.

At 7/13/07 03:55 AM, Shadow-XII wrote: Stamper: Epicly funny penis jokes.

JohnnyUtah: A follow-up lame act that destroys the funny of Stamper's.

As always.

thanks for the support!

At 7/12/07 01:11 AM, rolentogrenades wrote: Okay, here's a preview of the new one I'm working on. A boss from the arcade game Outzone. This is going to take some time to ink for sure. In the full version, it'll also have a technical border on the bottom, as well as the Outzone player dropping from it and shooting it up.

holy shit, i hope you can get that done in 2 weeks

At 7/11/07 12:36 PM, Temariix wrote:

NO WHERE is it stated that this is a visual arts forum, just an art forum. I read through the rules as any good user should, and have not found those words anywhere. This forum is a forum for ART, any kind of ART not just visual ART. Why cant writing be an art? And who is going to actually critique a piece of writing in the general forum? No offense to you general forum goers, but most of them are bubbling baffoons with nothing better to do.

I think that this was a case of discrimination of art and the topic should be reopened. There are no rules broken, and if you ask me, it's a pretty good piece of writing.

</frustration>

GOD DAMMIT. VISUAL ART ONLY. WE HAVE ENOUGH GARBAGE IN THE ART FORUM ALREADY.

At 7/11/07 03:26 AM, BoMToons wrote: JimmySavage that Abobo is freaking awesome...Cartoony...painterly...defined textures...really nice job...but where's the mustache!!!??!!!

abobo was on my short list, but i dont even think I'll try him now. I cant beat that.

At 7/3/07 10:28 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 7/3/07 10:23 PM, AshfordPride wrote: You trust a video made by an unknown person(s?) over elected officials?

I trust this one, it has a source page for everything it talks about, and a lot of news reporting footage, documentations, interviews etc.

Too all the non believers I say this, you didn't even watch the video so shut the fuck up.

I saw it. very interesting stuff...and I do believe most of the contents of part 3 will come to pass.

but hey, look at the bright side...eventually...an asteroid or some other cosmic disaster will wipe us all out in the blink of an eye.

I cant wait.

holy shit deadspread drew something in flash.

i didnt think your maniacal style could translate over, but I was hella-wrong. looks great.

At 7/10/07 08:30 PM, AwesomeSaurus wrote:

At 7/10/07 07:40 PM, JohnnyUtah wrote:

i like it. just keep in mind that the intention of these was to imagine putting them back in the game. try to think of em as a detailed animation cell. I really do like some of the more painterly ones in this thread, but they may be hurting their own chances of winning if they're too much like production art and not something that could be used theoretically in a hi-def 2-d game.

Hmm, i'm thankful I read this when I did then! Do you think the sort of coloring I was doing was a bit too "painterly?" I haven't gotten that far, so It's not a big deal to start over in flash now.

its fine. again, we never did a contest like this before and we all had preconcieved notions of what we wanted. i think as long as the outer edges are clearly defined..(unless your sprite is glowing or something crazy) it'll be ok. but thats just me.

At 7/10/07 06:25 PM, LiftYourSkinnyFists wrote:

At 7/10/07 02:29 PM, JohnnyUtah wrote:

At 7/10/07 02:19 PM, MindChamber wrote: So while you sit there, brushing you girl like hair , in your tight crotchless jeans, ask yourself this. Was it really worth looking like a complete douche bag, for 15 minutes of attention?
If the answer was yes, then complete your transformation into womanhood, and become the Vegas showgirl you were truly meant to be.

WELL SAID

Hahaha, I'm just reading random posts in this thread, it's funny as hell. Okay here's another one I just whipped up, another boss from final fantasy. what do you guys think so far? is it dark on yer monitors?

i'm gonna do a few more entries too, i reeaallly want that wii.

i like it. just keep in mind that the intention of these was to imagine putting them back in the game. try to think of em as a detailed animation cell. I really do like some of the more painterly ones in this thread, but they may be hurting their own chances of winning if they're too much like production art and not something that could be used theoretically in a hi-def 2-d game.

At 7/10/07 02:34 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 7/10/07 12:46 PM, Marcato wrote:

I like the different thickness of lines that you use. Did you do that on purpose or did it just turn out that way?

Purpose. I actually made the outline on paper and inked it, I just can't stand doing that shit with the tablet. I have no idea how Jeff, Jose and Stamper do that shit without going CRAZY, it seems to take ages to get what I want with that stupid-ass tablet. I can ink that drawing within an hour with my good ol' brush and pen.

ive been on a wacom for like..6 yrs now. I used to do it the stamper way with bending lines then converting to fills, but it was driving me insane so ive opted for just using the brush and using thr smooth tool in places to get out the kinks. its not as precise, but i can live with it.

At 7/10/07 02:19 PM, MindChamber wrote:

So while you sit there, brushing you girl like hair , in your tight crotchless jeans, ask yourself this. Was it really worth looking like a complete douche bag, for 15 minutes of attention?
If the answer was yes, then complete your transformation into womanhood, and become the Vegas showgirl you were truly meant to be.

WELL SAID

At 7/10/07 12:17 AM, devvv wrote: I have a question and was hoping one of the mods can answer it...

Are we suppose to draw a cell-shaded HD of the sprite. Or can I do a soft-shaded style for my entry? Thanks in advance!

check out the ones submitted so far. you can do hard edged coloring or a more painterly look - your choice.

At 7/10/07 04:19 AM, poxpower wrote: Jesus christ this is turning into a "make this sprite into a painting" contest haha.

yeah i wasnt expecting so many. id hate to see some poor soul try and animate one of those for a game.

its all cool with me though.

At 7/10/07 01:43 AM, Jonas wrote: iUnic or what ever the fuck his name is won't be posting for a bit, so to bring this thread back on track, Punch Out was my first game for NES.

everybody stop arguing like faggots already, the terrible art is bad enough, now we gotta deal with this bullshit.