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In a sense.. We are al /ALL/ ignorant, including me..

Yet, this entire race is /TOO/ 'ignorant' for it's own good..

Weak-minded shadows who aren't worth bothering with.

This is the present.. This is /NOW/. Everything we do /NOW/. Is going to be our new /PAST/. Is going to shape our /FUTURE/.

If we continue living in the past; hiding in the future; not taking /NOW/ seriously..

Yep. [Insert terribly obvious result here]

Anyone who believes in an allegedly omnipotent; allegedly omniscient being who watches over our pathetic race that can't even watch over itself.. Is a god at being an ignoramus.

Anyone who created anything of an illusion that only caters to their weakness and flaws; not their strengths and their own unadulterated will, is a obfuscated putz.

Anyone who actually awaits a call from a supreme being -- when they lie to themselves -- not listening to their own voice, is an incomprehensible dumbass.

Anyone who hasn't opened their eyes to see that the entire time the human race has existed, nobody has proven anything that is absolutely tolerably plausible. When this world is blatantly controlled by money, smoke and mirrors.. I bet the pope is living it up, laughing at how easy it is to yield you against your own will.. I bet he masturbates to people who get on their knees to pray to their lord and savior.. Psh.

PATHETIC RACE IS PATHETIC.

Why do we pursue happiness? Why do we take life for granted? Why do we care about ourselves more than the very source that allows us to survive; our world, and it's environment?

Why can't we simply just live? Is 'happiness' truly that important to you? Where you step on your own kind, where you lose your senses of reality, where only a part of life concerns you, where you are never whole, where you are always missing that /something/ no matter how far you search, where you are just 'there' feeding off what you deem worthy for your 'indulgence'.

How can anyone be proud of themselves for covering this world with a veil of ignorance to enclose themselves in this fake haven they've created to make this world more tolerable.

How can anyone muster up even a sliver of happiness when this world and it's race is in a shambles? When this world has become a void filled with baboons and shadows who are ingeminating their inevitable doom. Generally speaking, this world is not being runned by a genuine race, it's only being runned by a race that pretends to be something that it's not through fear, weakness and ignorance.

How our race is so fucked up that we actually have a bloody history of our race being so ignorant. Our history should be reflecting off how ignorant we all truly are, how far we've actually made it in this world that is possessed by eternal inertia; while we watch it burn to all hell, because of us.

Our human race is truly brilliant when it /wants/ to be. Yet, that's slowly losing to a selfish, anti-cognitive lifestyle where people pursue fruitless aftermath their entire lives. Our minds are so fucking magnificent that people can paint and draw the smallest of detail.. That people can compose music that can interconnect with our senses; our emotions.. That our voices can be heard and influence millions and billions of people.. Where we are able to create, destroy and become our own destiny..

Humans are no longer their own gods, but slaves to their own egos; their weaknesses; they have become jail-bait to their own negativity. This world isn't about who is right or wrong anymore it seems.. So fuck morality. People turned this world into a game about who is right or wrong.. even if it makes no sense.. even if everything we do and say makes no sense in the grander scheme of things.. When we pretend to make sense out of everything in this world.. Did it ever occur to you that music is just sound in the grander scheme of things..? It is /us/ that gives it meaning, because the music reflects off of us.. So when you hear people listening to their types of music.. They listen to it because the sound interconnects with them.. Parts of them that they consciouslly cannot become aware of..

I thought we were 'brilliant' and 'superior'. When we are defeating ourselves like deranged scorpions enclosed in our own hellfire.. Refusing to sting ourselves to death.. Aswell as refusing to fix the damage we have inflicted on this beautiful world.

How it's laughable that we deem ourselves the greatest simply because we can witness our own existence and do things other animals can't.. What is the point of being able to do a few extra things if we are the only race that is destroying everything.. We may be able to do things that others cannot.. but that is not how life is measured.. Life is not about levels.. standards.. and value.. IT's aabout balance you control freaks.. I love how humans get so fed up with a world they cannot control so they subconsciouslly control themselves.. they rebel against the world by doing things to their body that makes them feel 'free' when they are nothing but a slave to their own mind. All of us are.. Having nightmares.. Anxiety attacks.. Experincing glimpses of our monsterous selves.. only to escape back to our little holes.. sucking on our thumbs like cry babies.. refusing to climb out of our petty hole to face this world's corruption once and for all..

How we create all these illusions that people can't help but become gullible in believing in with their plot holes, and false sense of happiness and security. Why do people want others like God to even forgive them if they can't even forgive themselves! You humans make me sick. Worrying about what is out there.. while this world is burning into flames.. with a smile on our face that is endowed by our selfish 'happiness' as we call it.. When it's an ACT OF WEAKNESS. When it's /you/ RATIONALISING YOUR WEAKNESS. When it's you REFUSING TO ADMIT TO YOUR OWN WEAKNESS. You are nothing but a kid who shoves their mess in the closet, and never cleans it out.. as it accumalates to the point it becomes too big for you..

This entire world has been turned into a pseudo-reality; pseudo-video game where adults act like their authority actually should hold any merit because they know more than us, because they dress 'appropiately' [more like boring, faceless, faulty mass of ignorance] because they are 'older' than us with their imaginary number.. As if being on this world longer actually deems us wise.. When it simply could be that they became even more ignorant over time.. This race is so deluded of the simple ansers to life are.. Refusing to simplify this overly complicated world.. To see..

That this world is not as solid as it appears to be.. Just this imaginary foundation humans created to prop up their bias logic so they can delude us from what life is fucking about..

Life is not about growing up with a limited childhood; freedom [even if some children even get that..] it's not about materials.. and being lead around by ''authorities'' like sheep, as if we /need/ to be lead around. It's like that one quote: ''Who watches the watchmen?''. It's so amusing how people actually believe in 99% of this BULLSHIT that we get ingrained in our hollow heads.. Filled with straws I might add.

Life is about making the best of what we are to be. Fuck the scientists and how they say we are 'animals' because we share similar characteristics to the mammals and other information I deem unconcernable. Life is about experience, and making the best of that experience.. What we /do/ become aware of. Not LYING to ourselves.. Not pursuing 'happiness' like we NEED it just to live.. [how weak-minded of you..] ignoring problems that is EVERYBODY's problem.. When problems are just as much as an influence.. a seed that grows and spreads ITS TOXICATED SEEDS INTO MORE TOXICATED SEEDS. Humans are just as bad as fire being carried by the wind.. We are FUCKING INFLUENCES. WE NEED TO STAND UP AND STOP BEING SO KIND WHEN OUR RACE IS IGNORANT. IF SOMEONE IS IGNORANT. TELL THEM. DON'T TELL THEM WITH YOUR FAKE SMILE: ''DERP. YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE. NEVER LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE'' FUCK YOU. ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO IS LETTING THESE PEOPLE SPREAD THEIR IGNORANCE UNTO THIS WORLD AND ITS PEOPLE.. I'm SICK OF THESE PEOPLe AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE JUST AS WEAK AND DON'T WANT TO STAND UP LIKE THE RARE FEW WHO DO. /That/ is the only reason why you encourage others.. Because you are just /as/ weak as they are.. and cannot constitute any viable foundation.. because YOU NEVER HAD ONE.

We need to START REALISING HOW IGNORANT WE ARE. HOW WE ARE GETTING NOWHERE. NOBODY IS. HOW VERY FEW IS GOING BEYOND THEIR LIMITS TO BECOME THE BEST THEY ARE. NOBODY IS PUTTING AN EFFORT IN LIVING. All they do is complain.. lie to themselves.. blame others.. hide their dark secrets.. while calling others demons and monsters who have those SAME dark secrets we PRETEND we don't have.. When everyone is seperated in these small groups of BULLSHIT.

These people who join these STUPID GROUPS.. Yea.. thats right.. RELIGIONS.. CONSPIRACY THEORISTS.. GANGS.. YOU NAME IT.. YOU ARE ALL PATHETIC PANSIES.

You are NO DIFFERENT THAN AN UNPOPULAR KID WHO JOINS A GROUP OF BIG KIDS JUST TO FEEL 'ACCEPTED''. IF THAT IS HOW FAR YOU GO TO ACHIEVE YOUR PETTY 'HAPPINESS'. THEN OUR RACE IS DOOMED..

So you know. Fuck you all.

Fuck your materials.

Fuck your star filled heads.

Fuck your money.

Fuck your lies.

Fuck your Gods; otherowrdly beings.

FUCK YOU ALL. [Few exceptions..]

At 1/7/12 03:45 AM, The-iMortal wrote:

At 1/7/12 12:10 AM, TrevorW wrote: I wish I could save this forever.

I thought that the best thing you could have possibly done is ignore this thread, but you have proven me wrong.

You know.. It's intriguing that you and Trevor imply that this thread is pointless to read when both of you can't even take it seriously; like its not as if you guys actually gave a viable reason to reject it's alleged insignificance.

Especially when it comes to the example Trevor unjustifiably contorted without any reason at all.. It only clearly shows that he doesn't even know what I am trying to say and puts not greater effort to understand what I am trying to say.

You guys are welcome to scoff at my scholarly work.. /IF/ you give me a few solid reasons as to why you rather scoff at it.. When I put a whole bunch of work in this philosophy and it /does/ make sense.

At 1/7/12 12:10 AM, TrevorW wrote: I wish I could save this forever.

Why? ^^?

Ok. Thankyou.

At 1/6/12 08:03 PM, TrevorW wrote:

It's an interesting philosophy, but it's not very hard to see that it's not that unusual a one and is almost a regurgitation of Rousseau. Now, what would be unusual is if you showed how this philosophy has a practical application, because what the basic problem of philosophy is is not that it attempts to change people, but that it doesn't attempt to apply itself to real life.

Regurgitation? I assure you, I do not regurgitate anything. My philosophy is genuine, and I have so many ideas.. Of course I may accidentally come close to a similar concept.. Does everyone forget that the human possesses all kinds of different ideas? That one idea similar to another doesn't deem them pointless? When they /COULD/ have an idea that is actually genuine? Humans are so quick to judge, I don't understand why. :/ Also, my philosophy has to do with everything as a whole.. our minds.. our race.. our world and it's inhabitants.. logic.. virtues..our life.. our reality..our language.. etc. It has to do with everything in a fundamental package.

You are attempting to describe concepts that Rousseau penned many years ago. Your logic and presentation fall very short of his writings. Therefore, you have attempted to say what has already been said, and done so poorly (thus the regurgitation). Congrats. Your thoughts are your own, but they are hardly ground breaking or monumental. Furthermore, your egotism and pretentiousness completely mask what little worth your writing presents.

Now, go ahead and blame me, as that is what you do. You blame your poor writing skills, lack of a knowledge base, and poorly articulated arguments on my supposed unwillingness (or inability) to appreciate and understand your work. Do it. Or, take the time to understand that philosophy is a form of academia which is constructed by building on previous works and refuting them, while using sound logic (though relatable examples) to explain concepts.

Nothing humans do is groundbreaking.

I already said I had an ego. I am not pretentious. I love how hypocritic you humans are. Telling me how I need all this solid evidence when nothing you say is solid at all. You are on an imaginary foundation my fellow friend. Keep deluding yourself. I'm blaming everyone for this monstrocity of a reality. Everyone can and choose not to do something about this world while everyone just ignore everything.. BLARG. I don't care.. Bunch of selfish, hypocritical, delusional putzes is what you are.

Having fun feeding your ego, mate?

I never directly blamed your ignorance because of my lack of execution and performace. You really /are/ deluded. Such a fool. You're just simply ignorant. There is no blaming there.

Again.. I'm going to say it /again/ since you are too hungry with your ego to take things seriously. EVERYTHING YOU SAY AND DO IS NOTHING BUT AN IMAGINARY FOUNDATION YOUR OWN PATHETIC RACE CREATED TO FORM BIAS LOGIC.

What is your point? You think I should show some kind of ''OMG HE SHOWED MY PM IN PUBLIC'' reaction?

Losing my mind,
losing my kind,
there is no sign,
there is no time.

Nowhere to go,
above or below;
a dusty key,
alone with me.

This mess isn't new. It's as old as the species itself.

Indeed.

I too have problems with this section. This has to do with your writing itself. You have to make clear, before you begin arguing, what grounds people must first accept to accept the extension of your argument. For instance, one must believe in God to believe that stories in the Bible were true events.

Yes, but really.. Why are people willing to believe in all of that blatant mess of ''logic'' before me? When I'm focused on everything and everyone? When I built my philosophy through fearlessness, through my strengths not my flaws.. Through my determination to go beyond my body's limit to fix this world. When the human race is obviously fucked up; so why even believe in a fucked up race who segregates everything with their petty imagination that they themselves can't even back up properly? I know that I am having difficulties with writing something tangible.. but even then the entire Bible is just a book people worship and regurgitate from.. While I formed 95% of my philosophy with my own mind. Just thinking everyday about this world, why humans react the way they do.. Just alot of deep contemplating.

I'm going to take a hyperrealist stance here, and say that questions from a stranger cannot move an individual to change their beliefs because the only reason the individual exists is because the stranger makes that person exist. People who believe in God believe that their life is run in simulation, where their existence is tied inherently to the existence of a greater power. But the thing about the belief system is that the stranger does not understand that his life is al

Everyone are still human beings, which means everybody can be taken down if you find everybody's weakness.. What is that? Their flaws. Find their flaws. Everything about them is just a pile of nothingness that was suited up with straws. I don't understand why it's so hard to convince people how powerful my argument can be without 'facts' and 'evidence' and 'logic'. Today's logic is built on completely fallacious bullshit just like my philosophy.. Yet, I believe I found the formula that every single bullshit alliance is built on and my philosophy is made out of it.. I know their game, and I am using it against them.. My words are just as formless as everybody elses.. Yet, my words are solid because nobody can win a fight if they are flawed from the inside. I run off of my sheer willpower. They run off straws.

You should read Rousseau as it almost seems like you're plagiarizing him here. I'm not suggesting you are, but you have almost written verbatim was with written in the 1757 discourse.

I have no idea who this person is. And as I said. My philosophy is self-taught. How interesting though. I just write whatever I hear in my head. I am a reluctant reader, and I don't want to read about somebody who only has one idea similar to mine..

No. Because you make childishness to be a good thing.

How, exactly?

I think you're too easy on adults here. Many of them reject imagination altogether, for very sane reasons.

Did you forget that adults are just children in denial? Adults /ARE/ children[in older bodies].

It's an interesting philosophy, but it's not very hard to see that it's not that unusual a one and is almost a regurgitation of Rousseau. Now, what would be unusual is if you showed how this philosophy has a practical application, because what the basic problem of philosophy is is not that it attempts to change people, but that it doesn't attempt to apply itself to real life.

Regurgitation? I assure you, I do not regurgitate anything. My philosophy is genuine, and I have so many ideas.. Of course I may accidentally come close to a similar concept.. Does everyone forget that the human possesses all kinds of different ideas? That one idea similar to another doesn't deem them pointless? When they /COULD/ have an idea that is actually genuine? Humans are so quick to judge, I don't understand why. :/ Also, my philosophy has to do with everything as a whole.. our minds.. our race.. our world and it's inhabitants.. logic.. virtues..our life.. our reality..our language.. etc. It has to do with everything in a fundamental package.

Until then, ^^.

ALright, so I 'm going to reply the way I should have. Honestly, after reading it through again, I still maintain that this is shoddily written, with an added flaw of perceived egotism. My biggest criticism of this is not in fact the philosophy itself, but you're vague insistence of "reading and understanding" in response to people's inquiries about your original post seem to go against your very assertion that you don't make claims that you cannot explain. You have to put more effort into responding.

That is because humans hide the very property that deems my argument solid. If people continue denying that their argument is null; that their belief system collapsed, because they held themselves up with fabricated support beams; if I cannot get people to accept self-humility and accept the fact that I've shot down everything just through their flaws they pretend they do not have; I believe that people will just have to let my philosophy grow on them. I cannot draw you a map of what I see with my mind, but I do my very best to form a tangible source by using metaphors and defeating people's arguments. You can't help but know something is off about them, but you also can't help but think that what I am saying is fallacious and illogical; yet, I am still standing, and you ask yourself ''Why?''.

My first mistake was to overlook this sincere preface.

You /are/ human after all?

This is where you start to lose me and begin to seem egotistical. It seems that you are referring to something specific. There is one very good reason not to listen to someone, and that is because you lead separate lives, and to challenge someone is to not only to say that "I am right" but also that "you are wrong". It's not wrong in itself to assert this in any one situation, but it is a misstep to extend this to "the next time I will also be right" and "the next time you will also be wrong".

I have a big ego. My ego is not inflated, and does not belittle others. I'm trying to bring out the best of people. I give them a chance to fight back, and they only just show how pathetic they really are. They are not pathetic because I deem it so, they are pathetic because they chose to be without acknowledging the very fact that everything they say and do is nothing but a part of their fake haven they have created to make life much more convenient for themselves; rather than getting dirt under their fingernails and to take this world seriously. Who cares who is right or who is wrong. When somebody cannot fight back; their vision should never be carried by straws. I wouldn't give a flying fuck if our human race kept their opinions to themselves, but did you forgot that humans are an 'influential' race? They carry everything psychologically, and they can influence others? It's not like I can climb in their head and hit the ''I'm Wrong'' button. I have to make them realise how serious this is to be, and that only they can muster up their own will to hit that button so we can actually stop playing games with a world that is in a shambles.

What do say to those who believe the world is prospering because of the proliferation of humans?

This world has only been dying. People only pretend that it's prospering; advancing. While our human race continues to indulge themselves, or be victimised by those who indulge themselves.. As this world has no arms or legs to flee from our eternal incompetence.. Watching us burn it to the ground in our empty minds; anti-cognitive, mechanical lapses of a nature that we pertain to as a 'human being'. We aren't 'being' anything but a bane to this world that we pretended was lesser than our human race.. When it was the lesser forms of life that gave us our life, and all we do is take it for granted just because we know we can get away with it.

I find it strange how willing you are to call someone childish though for very different reasons. Children are the students of life. A man in the Wild would find it difficult to engage with society while a child raised in the Wild would be able to learn to live in society with more success. There is nothing "childish" about an insult because children learn to insult from adults.

No. There are no 'students of life'. Knowledge is boundless, and can be found in everything and everyone. There is no secret property where knowledge only lies dormant. Knowledge is as free as we can, but chose not to be. I don't understand why people use the man in the wild examples.. When either way, man will not know how to distinguish what is right from wrong; what is real from fake.. It's the same thing, it depends on the person's life experiences; influences; virtues.. What they decide on, how they saw the world, etc.. Such a vague example. No, insults do not magically come from adults only. Insults are just words, that the receiver chooses to be ''offended'' by. Doesn't matter if you are a child, or adult, or even a rainbow flying dutchman. It's just words that people let hurt them because they are weak-minded.

But this is nothing new. In fact, fear of the unknown IS seeing something in the darkness. People live in darkness and fill in the unknown with, as you say, God and other illusions. But while some of what we fill the darkness with is fearful, like God or nothingness, sometimes what we fill it with is delusional, like truth, an insistence that if we keep reaching out into the dark, our hand will hit something. We know we can never find anything in the dark, but we must for fear of touching nothing. The darkness is not a mirror so much as it is a puddle of unknown depth that we are compelled to step into.

Darkness is a mirror. So is everything else. Humans draw a map of their mind through shadows. Just like shadows; clouds are able to be seen differently; just like philosophy, and this world. The thing is.. This world is like a giant puzzle piece, and if you can find the right pieces.. Things start making sense. The puzzle pieces I've dillgiently put together actually come together..While everyone else's puzzle pieces wouldn't fit.. They just pretended it did, because they got fed up with themselves not being competent enough to put something together.. Which is why I still stand; since my puzzle pieces interconnect.. Why would they come together with completely different concepts if it were an act of deception? When you talk to others.. Things do not fall in place.. When you talk to me.. Things fall in place through time.

So is everything we say a reflection of ourselves? If dog's are able to pretend to be sick, then why can't your mother be right?

Not everything we say. Only the things we mean; not empty words as such. Our dog does not pretend to be sick. My mom saw herself through our dog. I'm not sure why humans do it, but they seem to oddly project themselves onto other things. It's really intriguing.

This example is not well told. Why does the man believe her? It sounds like suggesting that serial killers project their oedipal complexes onto the women they rape, which I don't may be true for some but certainly this is not the driving force for every man.

Why /wouldn't/ the man believe her after he literally beat the shit out of her, raped her, and is completely out of his mind? Your 'rational' minds sometimes..

How do me know that what the shadow says is true? We have no reason to believe the shadow as being the truth.

Yes we do. The shadow is everything we pretend is not of us. The shadow /is/ the part of us we were ashamed of. This is why it's terribly a serious concept, because how can a human fix a problem if they 1. Buried it deep inside them. 2. If they think they are /normal/? When this shadow is found in every single person. Which is why everyone has a dark side of the moon. Which is why everyone has thousands of faces. Everyone has their darkness, my friend. The shadow is the whole of us. We are the ones who are buring the shadow. The shadow was only the shadow because we refused to acknowledge what the shadow really is. /Us/.

At 1/6/12 03:35 PM, marchohare wrote:

At 1/6/12 03:05 PM, Insanctuary wrote: It's quite digusting if you ask me, how nobody has realised that this is completely ludicrous and how it's only working against us while the people behind it are scheming.

It's not true that nobody has realized it, but perhaps you were just generalizing again. A lot of people realize it -- just not a majority. A majority never will either, and the elites know that. They know it because of the Milgram experiment.

If you don't know what that is, Google it. Stanley Milgram proved (and other researchers have repeatedly verified it) that 65% of us are "Good Nazis." That 65% will even administer fatal electrical shocks to a test subject (actually an actor) when instructed to do so by an authority figure. That's how much Milgram's 65% (also known as "sheeple") trust and respect authority just because, in that case, it was wearing a white lab coat and holding a clipboard.

As I said, other researchers have repeated it. They always get that magical 65%. One study even went so far as to question whether the test subjects might realize that the shocks were fake on some level, so they substituted a sweet, helpless puppy and had the test subjects really kill it.

The test subjects did. It's really 65%, all right.

Yes, I'm glad you caught my generalisation. Sorry about that, I was going to say something different but my mind completely decided to go down a different track.

I believe that this whole 'Milgram' is just another fancy word to cover what is subtly blatantly obvious.

Our human race has been polluted for 1000's of years, and nobody knows how to distinguish what is right from wrong; what is real from fake anymore.. Not even with the slightest bit of effort.

I wish to bring this awareness unto our human race with my philosophy. ^^ That's off track though.

Still.. I don't like to jump to assumptions and believe in alot of the things I read. I don't like to swim in pudding; I like to swim in my universe that I have long studied; which is constituted by the same language of other's minds.. What I am trying to say is.. This world is being over complicated by our fucked up human race.. The answer to fix everything is so simple.. Yet the ignorance and weaknesses of our human race is why it's so god damned complicated.

I believe that humans never were limited. There is no such thing as a limit. Everything was in our grasp before we were told we couldn't do something by ourselves or those around us.

/We/ are our own obstacle. ^^

At 1/6/12 02:46 PM, marchohare wrote:

At 1/6/12 02:13 PM, Insanctuary wrote: Am I /like/ the only one who looks past all of this, and thinks that it's incredibly vague and flawed the way they evaluate a new figure that presents themselves....

No, not that Ron Paul is a new figure. I voted for him for President in '88. This is just the first time enough people have heard of him that the MSM can't ignore him out of existence.

That said, we really are just talking about a few rotten trees in a very diseased forest. As I've said, Romney will get the Republican nomination and Obama will win four more years. This is a done deal. It doesn't matter, however, because both are tin-plated sold-out whores. If you really want to change something, eliminate the corporate funding of campaigns. Establish that corporations are not people, and that money is not speech. That's how to change it.

And good luck doing that. The folks who hate that message REALLY hate it. I submitted a Flash to that effect a couple of months ago, and two guys (or more likely one guy with two accounts) has been coming back every day for two months to blam it. It came out of its first day in Daily 6th Place with a score of 3.55. They (or he) has it down to 2.88 now.

Those who are opposed to those changes are SERIOUSLY opposed to them.

Well of course, I was generalising the scheme of electing candidates. It just seems it's always going to get rigged, thus we are always going to get stuck with some half smiling, deceptive apparel wearing, idea mangling, porcelain figure who wins ignorant people's hearts with empty words.

It's quite digusting if you ask me, how nobody has realised that this is completely ludicrous and how it's only working against us while the people behind it are scheming. They might aswell change the part in the declaration of independece where it says ''We the people'' to ''We the businesses''. Money is controlling everything now, not our humanly idea.. not our freedom and what we are fighting for.

Money. Our human race is so 'intelligent', so 'superior' and we have silk destroying our world..

So amusing. ^^

People think that people's ideas hold merit when they dress well, when they have good book knowledge and use big industrialise words..when they wear nice suits and smile; speaking of their lies.. Their ideas hold value.. When it appears to me that those who were normal people changed alot in this world.. Not these baboons.

Am I /like/ the only one who looks past all of this, and thinks that it's incredibly vague and flawed the way they evaluate a new figure that presents themselves; their opinions; their virtues; to the mass?

Every man has a thousand of faces; but not every man reveals them.

No. The question here is.. CAN /THEY/ PROVE IT?

No. They can't even make any sense out of their belief system.

It's called ''Faith in antithetical values''.

Humans creating completely ridiculous illusions + our fear; curiosity of the unknown = The ultimate loop-hole.

Whenever you argue with a religious being, and they do not give up their childish game. They will only have two options left:

Option A: ''I don't agree''. ''No. You are wrong''. *Cowers in their ignorance*

Option B: *Lashes out then and there because they know that their entire belief system is as hollow as they are*

The End. You humans intrigue me.. Shooting for the wrong stars mate!

Simple answer: Attack not the man, nor his vision; attack the man's flaws.

At 1/6/12 01:37 AM, Noonga wrote: Don't listen to Socratius he is a troll and I have seen his like before

Also this is interesting stuff, remember that life is the key to wisdom and remember to keep reading and experiencing as much as you can!

I'm glad you find it /interesting/. [You don't have to read anything after this.. Just some extra stuff I decided to write. ^^]

When Socratius responds to me the way he did the last time, I am certain that he meant what he said.

I experience, and I argue with as many people as I can. It helps me see what they see, and what they can't see. I don't like to call it 'arguing' though, I like to refer to it as 'passionately reasoning'. I don't want people to think I am arguing like angry couples, no. I'm trying to understand the person I am opposing, and if they do not oppose me back.. They make me have to draw their map myself. [Which results to misconceptions here and there]. This is the only way I actually can understand what life is about:

Life is about making the best out of yourself; your strengths and weaknesses; your light and shadow; living to be what you seek, and never letting anyone, not even yourself, stop you from living the person you were born to be.

I know alot of people who easily say ''I know who I am'', but how much do you want to bet that they are completely ignorant of their own selves if they don't show it like I do?

Over a 2.5 year period, I only have found 8 people who have grown onto my philosophy; and it doens't surprise me that they are brilliant by default.

It goes to show that I am in a haystack full of shadows looking for those who are still true to themselves; who still held on, no matter how much this reality banishes those who speak their mind, and live to be who they are.

At 1/6/12 01:13 AM, Socratius wrote: I was considering joking around and 'trolling' you a bit more but after I read that I feel a lot of sympathy and respect for you. I'm more alike to you than you might think.

Sorry, I'll leave you alone now and you have my respect.

I find it sad that I get respect when I lose my patience. I should be respected before I lose my patience.

:/ Thankyou though, I appreciate it.

At 1/6/12 01:15 AM, Kenfucius69 wrote: My main point of purpose is to target those that believe the bible to be NOT metaphorical. I have talked to many theologians, as I said I would through the course of this book. The "hypocrisy" of religion is a blast towards the "Christians" who don't exactly follow Christ's teachings, but still call themselves Christians! If you "follow" someone and go against their messages of peace, love, etc. you're not they're followers! You're just fans. My point here again is to say that God is metaphorical for everything good.

/We/ are our own God's. /Did/ you ever think of that? Did you ever put 2 and 2 together and see that it is man who creates and destroys? Did you ever even muster up one reason to believe that anything unother than our pathetic, deluded human race, exists? We are all fallen Gods who was defeated by our own ego, playing God.. but not /being/ God. We may not be able to defy nature, but we do defy nature enough to create and build on this once beautiful world with our brilliant minds that we let enter a crapshoot realm of ignorance because we are ALL TOO WEAK TO FACE THIS WORLD FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS.

The End. There is your book. Human Race looks at EVERYTHING but themselves. You want to send a message, tell everyone that they are completely lunatics. Why would ANYONE expect a powerful otherwordly being to look over our sad race? Pfhahahaha!

There is no God. We were our own God, and we just let it all go like mad scientists who couldn't stand living in a controlled, mundane world. We just HAD to create materials.. label things.. add value.. standards.. and segregate everything.. WELL DONE. :D

I'm sorry, OP. But.. I'm just speaking my mind. Because unlike every one else who is deluded from their ignorance.. I actually care about this world.. A /bit/ angry.. but.. Yea..

The human race is the key, but for now.. It's TERRIBLY out of shape. This race makes me sick the way it's neglecting our world, and even ourselves.. or wait.. the part that's TOO INCONVENIENT. People have NO TROUBLE wasting away in selfish indulgences. Not at all..

Have fun OP. You are only dancing around the same damn old tree the rest of the race dances around.. The Tree of Ignorance.

I suggest you to turn around and do not dwell on a concept that will get you nowhere.. and actually look at the roots of every problem to this world.. which is the human race.. nor ''Gods''.. not religious systems.. not other wordly systems.. not money.. not bad luck.. not nature.. HUMAN BEINGS and their 'INTELLIGENCE' and their 'SUPERIORITY'. Yea! We are so god damned ontop.. Let's reach for the stars everyone! Because our race is so high! Woo! :D

OP, if you can handle my anger.. There might be a few interesting concepts I just melded with my anger. ^^

At 1/6/12 12:23 AM, Arcbound22 wrote: A life lived of hope, wonder, love, peace
Corrupted and churned by perjudice thought
He who lived such a life lost release
Though the corruption, himself he was not
A part of he lost, a part left behind,
Something missing, somthing long forgotten.
A deep regret for this past of time
The deep of mind the deep of soul, rotten.
For this decay corrupts his inner being,
For this person he was, is now long gone
To have the slightest thought to his wellbeing,
Lost hope, this tragedy continued on.
Yet what was thought to have been lost was not,
It was always there, the thing he sought.

I know what you are trying to convey, but keep going at it.

You are slowly putting it together. Again, the first 4 lines need to be remodeled, you are getting the idea though. That is great progress, indeed. I really liked:

''For this decay corrupts his inner being,
For this person he was, is now long gone
To have the slightest thought to his wellbeing,
Lost hope, this tragedy continued on.'' Perhaps just a little bit of changes to it would make it a solid piece of the poem.

Keep going. :D

At 1/6/12 12:08 AM, Socratius wrote: take it easy big fella i only evr wanted the dabus.gif

do u even kno wat the dabus.gif is and how importent is 2 me son?

Do you have even the slightest clue how much my philosophy means to me?

How much this world and it's inhabitants mean to me?

How much I want to get to the roots of every problem, and put an end to it all?

How much I want people to actually see me for who I truly am? Not this egoistic, drivelling mad man.

How much I /hate/ insulting my own unintentionally?

How much I have to put up with to find those who 'actually' take me /seriously/?

How much anxiety, turmoil, dead-ends I experience because of this race's will to ignorance?

How much people insult me, /TROLL/ me, etc?

How much time I've spent on my philosophy?

How much insight I dilligently put together for the better of mankind?

How much I am putting into this philosophy of mine?

How much I have done?

Does /anyone/ have any idea what I go through to atleast put a god damned effort to fix this world with a plausible argument? Not plausible unto this world's logic, but plausible enough that nobody can oppose me.

How much it hurts to see people believe in ridiculous bullshit smoke and mirrors and not me who only is trying to get people to stop being distracted by lies, and deception so we can actually focus on ourselves. WHO CARES ABOUT THE UNIVERSE ON THE OUTSIDE WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN FATHOM THE UNIVERSE INSIDE OF US.

I'm tired of this race being so puny, and making me appear to be like I am some God.. When I am trying to raise my hand down and save them from their inevitable doom.

This world isn't going to get anywhere if this race continues to be so ignorant, so foolish, so deluded of their own flawed judgment; perception; belief systems; virtues; goals; dreams; reality; logic, etc.

It's like I am one of the handful, OUT OF A 8BIL+ POPULATION, who actually gives a shit about everything in this world.

And, this is why I do not want to be referred to as a human being. Thankyou, for being such great examples!

Yep.. The human race /IS/ the dead-end. There is no limits in this world. It's always been this race replicating a giant solid ball of shit.

Well done, human race. You really did well with all of your 'intelligence' and your 'superiority'. Destroying our world. While all of the lesser life forms still appreciate this world. I find it SO amusing how the human race is SO fucking GOD DAMNED curious why we are alive.. when all we are doing IS KILLING OFF EVERYTHING.

Yep. Perhaps I should call myself human, and call all of you shadows.. Because you are nothing whole. You are nothing. And never will be until you actually make something out of yourself and stop making empty assertion; acting like your argument is viable in this world when 99.9999999999999% don't know what TRUE logic is.

*claps*

At 1/5/12 11:58 PM, Socratius wrote: hey i was sticking up 4 u man, i think u just dont want me 2 obtain my dabus.gif

i will leave u alone 4 now but im warning u u hav messed with the wrong man

If you are going to troll me. Do a better job.

If you are going to stick up for me. Do a /better/ job.

If you are going to threaten me. Do a /BETTER/ job.

You do not phase me. I burned down your bridge. Don't think your homeless trolling is going to get you anywhere.

At 1/5/12 11:36 PM, TrevorW wrote:

At 1/5/12 01:23 PM, Insanctuary wrote: Psycho-garble.

Point proven. People create pissing contests when they think they are right.

Dunke.

What point was proven? Can you further clarify your delusions, I mean claims?

At 1/5/12 11:42 PM, Socratius wrote: Yeah way to go Trevor!

I responded to your trolling on my News Entry. I hope you are fully aware of this. ^-^ I believe I gave you my godly advice, like Trevor insists. Indeed? Oh, yes. Indeed that is may be so!

At 1/5/12 11:27 PM, TrevorW wrote:

The reason why it's /beyond logic/ is simply because today's logic is not as logical as it appears to be.

This is great; this line alone makes me smile.

I shall now reproduce your argument.

Given: You believe that a 4 sided object, of which all sides are equal, which also has four right angles is a square.

This is not true. Humanity has labeled it as such but their outlook is vastly limited. I however have the capability to truly asses the matter, as I have transcended and dined with the deities. In truth there are no facts, there is not truth, there is only data to be manipulated. I can get you any result you like (though you will like what I like, as I know better). In this illogical world ruled by flawed logic there is no wrong, there is no good. There is no remorse, there is no retribution. All there is is people selling T-shirts. People look for opportunity to abuse one another and therein partake in the circus we call life...and winning...winning. Winning.

D

I was really beginning to like you, but now you are deluding yourself from experiencing a great discussion.

Twisting my words, playing with your deluded sense of comprehension. Not even putting the slightest bit of endeavor to understand where I'm coming from. I do not need to further defend myself from your oppositions, if you continue to go down this route, Trevor.

You didn't push the first domino hard enough. Now, there will be no chain reaction of ideas, and concepts.

Way to go, Trevor.

At 1/5/12 09:51 PM, Arcbound22 wrote: Soft sand between my toes, an oceans breeze
A mild night, waves crashing on the sand,
A deep regret for I will never have these,
Sorrow and grief I can barely withstand,
A part of me lost, a part left behind,
Something missing, somthing long forgotten.
A deep regret for this past of time
The deep of mind the deep of soul, rotten.
For this decay corrupts my inner being,
For this person I was, is now long gone
I have the slightest thought to my wellbeing,
Almost tragic, almost like a sad song,
Yet what was thought to have been lost was not,
It was always there, the thing I sought.

The first 4 lines, I suggest you to reword them.

The next 4 lines, you start getting the flow, but it felt as though you weren't being patient when writing the message you wish to convey.. Also, you forgot an 'E' in the word ''something'', 6th line.

The next 4 lines, you were getting the flow and the message conveyed, but then you said ''Almost tragic, almost like a sad song'', and it threw me off that flow. Reword that, and make sure you can feel the flow; make sure you can feel the words interconnect into one big artistic message.

Then, the 2 last lines, that made me smile. I really liked how you took heed to my personal note, and you added your personal touch.

You will get there, I assure you. Just a few knicks, my friend. ^-^

At 1/5/12 09:26 PM, Arcbound22 wrote: Explain a bit more, you see Im just practicing writing a Shakespearean poem for english and the iambic perameter(didnt spell right :P) needs to be perfect, as well as the rhyme scheme and volta.

That riddle; poem I wrote was called Shakespeare 2.0. How amusing! ^^

Well.. Let's try an exercise before I give you my personal critique.

When you respond next time, fix every error that /you/ see in your poem. Then, I will show you where /I/ see errors personally. Alright?

At 1/5/12 09:18 PM, Arcbound22 wrote: Tell me what you think :D

Soft sand between my toes, an oceans breeze
A mild night, waves crashing on the sand,
A deep regret for, I will never have these
Sorrow and grief, I can barely withstand
A part of me lost, a part left behind
Something missing, somthing long forgotten.
A deep regret for this past of time
The deep of mind and soul, I feel rotten
What am I? Who am I? I ask myself,
For this person I was, is now long gone
Years passed, still a lack to relieve onesself
Almost tragic, almost like a sad song,
What I had thought I lost was always there
And finally at last, an answered prayer

To see or not to see, to believe or not to believe, to be or not to be.. To foresee the history of a possibility. To be a key, to be to see, and not see, for the key is it's own lock, and this lock is the key to what we see, and believe what is to be and not to be.

Really though, the poem should be reworded. You have the right words, and the right message you wish to convey. It feels a bit convoluted. Also, on a personal note. You answered yourself. Nothing else answered you. Only /you/. You. You. You. You. You..... ^^