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At 1/8/12 01:15 PM, Insanctuary wrote:

Add a 'G' to the word 'God'. Take out the 'D' and capitalise the 'E' out of the word 'Devil'. You get yourselves the two grand masters of ineptitude. [They are more of a couch potato than my mother is.]

Rephrase: Take out an 'O' out of the word 'Good'. Add a capitalised 'D' at the beginning of the word 'evil'.

THE TWO GRAND MASTERS OF INEPTITUDE

Simple. Man created God. Man had to make God look Godly. Man created the Devil. Now, the Devil pushes you to God, because of fear.

When.. The devil never had power to begin with. Nor does God. [Nor does big businesses.] We only gave them power for being weak-minded and ignorant of our own ignorance.

Add a 'G' to the word 'God'. Take out the 'D' and capitalise the 'E' out of the word 'Devil'. You get yourselves the two grand masters of ineptitude. [They are more of a couch potato than my mother is.]

At 1/8/12 08:03 AM, Dignatio wrote: Stop the Microwave at 1 Cause you hate those Beaping sounds

Hate all Bullies

Feel guilty when those Africa commercials with the Starving children come on and your eating right there

Hate when People call you skinny, But you actualy weigh about 106 Pounds

1. Can't relate. [I'm always AFM]

2. Can relate. [Just the very fact they don't pick on somebody that isn't smaller than them.. *cough*]

3. Can't relate. [Most of them are scams anyways. Of course, I have no power to do anything.

4. Can't relate. [Words never really held enough merit to bother me, really. Besides, I was like Stickman + Hercules (I used to free run for hours nearly every day)]

At 1/8/12 06:25 AM, Shady wrote: Life is not worth more than the atoms it's made of, but in complex organisms, happiness and suffering exist. It is the nature of our existence that happiness is the most important thing to our existence, so why not appease it?

1. It's essentially counter productive to believe in such trivial pursuits. There is nothing wrong with happiness when it does not delude you from what needs to be attended to.

2. It is crucial that you are to stop leaning towards scientific definitions of life, for it was built on straws and mere interpretations. [Anyone can discover something in space. Nobody can tell you exactly what it is. Anyone can express what they think it is, but not know /exactly/ what it is.]

At 1/8/12 06:17 AM, II2none wrote:

At 1/8/12 03:26 AM, Insanctuary wrote:

At 1/8/12 03:14 AM, II2none wrote:

At 1/8/12 03:07 AM, Insanctuary wrote:

1. You are very wrong. There are a rare handful of brilliant individuals on this site.

The feeling must not be mutual.

2. My misguided attempts? Who are you to deem me unworthy of making a difference?

Who are you to act like the savior of mankind when you have yet to prove that you've done any thing noteworthy. And prove doesn't qualify typing why humanity sucks. And just because you think finding philosophy to world peace is clearly doesn't make you any better than people who want to do good deeds,but KNOW they aren't Superman.

3. Let's see. I've abandoned 90% of my leisure to build a philosophy I believe will set this world on a rather smoother track. I used to watch porn 7 hours a night. Now, I don't watch porn. I am fully devoted to my philosophy. I go hungry, and thirty just to build my philosophy.. because ideas like to play hide n' seek. I quit games. I barely watch TV. What more do you want to hear from me?

Okay well you know what they say "The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success."

And you don't have shit to show for in your capabilities of being a glimmer of hope for mankind. Good for you your interested in philosophy and stopped wasting your free time on less productive things.

And again why the hell are you starting On a site full of animators and gamers? NG isn't focused on philosophy. I'd take you more seriously if you actually had some kind of productivity outside of "I'm a changed person". No offense but wake up, What about the psychopaths that just want to see the world run red with conflict, you can't talk everyone into your philosophy.There's no such thing as world peace, never has been and never will be.

1. Considering that your emotions cover your judgement, I'd reassess your approach.

2. It's not really like being a savior, really. I'm just a simple being who sees problems, and has chosen to go beyond his limit to further establish a way to fix these problems. I'm only human. I am indeed passionate.

3. I'll admit, I am somewhat insane to the point that it's a good thing. Which is why I call myself 'Insanctuary'. Insanity is the new sanity. [I could explain what I mean by this.]

4. This site is consisted of individuals with individual minds. You are only generally speaking and that isn't getting you anywhere.

5. I do not believe in only love and peace like your impression thinks. I believe in making the best of any given situation. There are billions of people, and you cannot convince them all; you can convince as many as you can though. [Did you not see what I said about nature's chaos and peace?]

6. One day, when I feel as though my philosophy is ready, I will bring it out to the real world. [I cannot afford to make any mistakes.]

At 1/8/12 02:20 AM, TrevorW wrote:

At 1/7/12 05:10 PM, Insanctuary wrote: I'm trying.. This is a philosophy that is bringing /everything/ together. It's really tough in the first place to explain something like ''This world is not as solid as it appears to be'' to people.

But if you are going to label something you have to do so in such a way that we can understand what it is that you mean. You label what ever you believe a "solid world" to be as a "solid world."

Considering that my mind is a general formula that sees things beyond labels -- for what it is -- it's arduous trying to form a tangible explanation.

At 1/8/12 02:18 AM, TrevorW wrote:

At 1/7/12 05:31 PM, Insanctuary wrote: Yes. We are not /of/ them, correct? That is my point. Scientists put us in the animal kingdom because we are 'related', but we are not /of/ them. They are them. We are /us/.

So you think they made a grave mistake but agree with there doing so...

I'm saying that humans are able to replicate what is /real/. I still question if any of our emotions are even real. If it's actually numerous outlets that allows us to exert positive and negative energy. I seem to catch myself in a state of mind from time to time where you can't feel any emotion; yet, you feel so whole. It's an interesting state of mind.

Its the state of being at peace. Buddhists call it a state of zen.

I totally disagree. I see some really flawed things in this world but the way society things is dynamic and ever changing. The Renaissance. The Enlightenment. The Black Rights movement. Modernism v Classical theory. Thoughts evolve constantly.

You cannot paint an already painted world. :/

You haven't really shown me why the practice of labeling is so utterly terrible.

1. Where did I state I agreed with them? I was elaborating a broader form.

2. Is it peace? I do not believe it's 'peace'.

3. I disagree with your disagreement.

4. The practice of labelling is not wrong. When you believe that a label is a solid property, that is when it becomes hazardous.

At 1/8/12 03:14 AM, II2none wrote:

At 1/8/12 03:07 AM, Insanctuary wrote:

9. How am I boasting?

10. Your general claims are only pointless to consider. Why do you say this thread is consisted of 'kids'?

The site is consisted of kids, that couldnt care for your non existences cause to bring the human race into unification or some bullshit. The focus is flash, games, audio,art etc. No one cares about your misguided attempts to save the world? As if you're doing anything at all.

What are you doing? Answer the question what are YOU doing thats so moving to make this world into what you invision? Because making a thread about it and stating how everyone is an idiot but you is a pretty insignificant attempts at your so-called cause.

--

You are quite impatient, I am only human.

1. You are very wrong. There are a rare handful of brilliant individuals on this site.

2. My misguided attempts? Who are you to deem me unworthy of making a difference?

3. Let's see. I've abandoned 90% of my leisure to build a philosophy I believe will set this world on a rather smoother track. I used to watch porn 7 hours a night. Now, I don't watch porn. I am fully devoted to my philosophy. I go hungry, and thirty just to build my philosophy.. because ideas like to play hide n' seek. I quit games. I barely watch TV. What more do you want to hear from me?

4. People aren't idiots. They are ignorant. I do not insult people with terms that do not hold truth to their stance.

At 1/8/12 03:03 AM, thespammer wrote: Hah! I know what you mean man!

Society and culture become molds to peoples perceptions; in this case money and a luxurious lifestyle.

Although some parts of them remain unchanged.

Its in nature to be the dominant being, whether you're competing with other species or between others from your own.

So there always ends up being the few on top while the masses slowly drag behind their coattails.

Its only natural that the betas fantasize about 69ing their positions the the alphas and feel powerless to do so, which is why the only way to deal with this false hope is to create a "pseudo world" or to bitch about it all day.

Although I don't think the pursuit of happiness is necessarily a bad thing, since happiness comes from satisfaction and contentment does it not? It gives us the drive to keep going on with life.

I suppose people set their expectations too high; as I also have the same problem with that.
I share a lot of problems that people in my society have, but I always do my best to keep my head above that superficial mindset.

As long as I know that I'm alive and well, I'll spend my time getting as close to my goals as I can.
If I don't, then I can die knowing that I lived a life rich with wisdom and experience. One can learn a lot from their failures.

Don't stress yourself out, just keep doing what you do.

1. You only have 30 posts? [Your light-hearted approach in writing intrigues me. I like you for some reason.]

2. Indeed that it does. I do wish that people focused on themselves rather than materials; illusions, and value; 'happiness'. People can be be 'happy', but not to the point it blinds them from this world's problems.

3. I never understood this dominant position. I believe this position is a way for people to redeem being insignificant during their younger years, personally.

4. Is there really a 'top' or is an invisible platform that never was worth fighting for?

5. Which is sad indeed. I do wish for our race to become better than they are now. It would restore more than one may possibly believe.

6. There is nothing wrong with happiness. It's that other kind of 'happiness', I really wish I knew how to elaborate it, but it seems to be this sense of being on a 'sugar high'.. Nothing more. It doesn't benefit you in any way. It's like covering your eyes with your hands and smiling.. Too vague? I agree.

7. I never understood why we have expectations like we were any more important than any other.

8. I admire your mindset.

9. That is one my major flaws. I tend to stress our, because I am really passionate about this.

It certaintly was a pleasure responding to you. I hope to hear from you again.

1. Your refutation is bias, and filled with ignorance, ll2none. [How do I reason with somebody who uses poor examples like the news?]

2. A false sense of happiness is false in it's own right, but you deem it real, for it makes you feel better; when it's simply a 'high'; an illusion. [I believe you are confused between happiness, and ignorant happiness (false sense of happiness)]

3. Perhaps you should stop being so bias? Stop drawing assumptions? Try to reason with me, and yourself? It seems to me that you are completely unaware of the core of my argument. You just jumped in while being amplified by my supposed arrogance.

4. Your remarks of my alleged characteristics only amuses me, and shows little effort from you.

5. What is exactly 'successful'? Is it an illusion of importance?

6. Flaws that they deny of. Racist is an example of the latter.

7. Yes, but everyone can put effort into it.

8. Considering how you percieve me, I wouldn't doubt that you think my ass is far up in the air.

9. How am I boasting?

10. Your general claims are only pointless to consider. Why do you say this thread is consisted of 'kids'?

--

You are quite impatient, I am only human.

1. What you deem plausible is simply irrelevant when you're weak-minded, Racist.

2. You are jaded simply for being a convoluted sense of reason; when you are a selfish, unreasonable man who caters to his weaknesses; not his strengths.

3. To be obsessed with chemicals in our brain only states how much our race needs to crawl out of their hole of ignorance and live to be something far more than a self indulging shadow who cannot present themselves with any form.

4. I simply believe I can change this world.

5. I've allegedly put forth nothing to stand for my defence, for you are a selfish man who indulges in selfish intentions who is certaintly inert. Your reason is null. If you cannot stand to be a better man than what you propose to be at this given time. Until then, you are only weak; lost, and hold no value in everything you do. [If the support beams of a building are hollow, nobody is going to want anything to do with it]

6. Post count does not justify my importance.

7. Being selfish Vs. Being concerned with a blatantly terrible world that can be fixed?

8. You are not concerned of anything but what meets your rather feeble standards. You set a limit that does not exist because you deem yourself of a general value.

9. What is my motive in my alterior motive? Why would I have an alteria motive? This motive of mine is essentially life itself.

10. Saving the human race so I can redeem my will; life is not my motive. I see flaws in this world, and I simply wish to make sense out of them; to put an end to it.

11. If that is what you think of my defese, so shall it be; of course, you are far off. My impugn does not stand impregnable through me, but your very flaws.

12. How is passion selfish?

13. I look pathetic for wanting to save the world? Your logic is meandering around a void of laughable proportions.

14. Do not use theories to back up your argument. Especially, when alot of these theories were built on with the same straws that were used to build this reality; it's 'ethics' and it's 'ideals'.

15. Trapped in a labyrinth of a world, when it never was a labyrinth sounds metaphorically plausible to me.

16. My philosophy is not 'correct'. It makes sense, and it only stands for the tower it appears to be simply by turning the opposer against themselves.. I cannot use this trick, if the opposer is true unto themselves.

17. Scales is a metaphor for our balance. This world was a natural balance of creation and destruction before we came along.

18. Problems that you continue to deny, but continue to show through your oppositions.

19. How am I a pharisaic; pretentious fool for wanting to speak my mind about what I have spent years putting together for the better of mankind? [Ignoring your insistence on degrading my ethos through your perishable assumptions]

20. You are hollow, for you are unsure of your own word. You are hollow, for you do not stand as a whole. You are hollow, for you stand for your own selfish desires, and rather [imaginative] standards you sought for, when this quest for value is simply futile. You do not accept everything as I do. I accept everything. I do not abandon anything that does no abandon themselves. I do carry what is truly matterless. This lifestyle you poorly justify is an act of weakness; retreat, and defeatism.

21. You only see my argument the way you do, because you do not see how distorted you truly are.

At 1/8/12 02:11 AM, II2none wrote:

At 1/8/12 12:59 AM, Insanctuary wrote:

At 1/8/12 12:28 AM, II2none wrote: Dude this whole thread is useless, and just as meaningless as you claim the human race is.
Your not going to be takin seriously on a site thats majority full of Adolescents that couldn't give two fucks what you think. Especially since it's just a long as rant about how weak the human race is.

Your unnecessarily long rants are about as effective as posting : "I don't want to live on this planet anymore."

Now, hush.

How exactly is it useless? Just because you say it is without a proper refutation?

This race truly is ignorant, I swear.

Trust me, this is not useless as you make it so.. Not forming an argument is more useless, my friend.. It's called 'being counter-intuitive'. If you are going to insult me, or deem my scholarly work in any way, shape or form.. Make sure you properly reasses yourself before making a fool out of yourself. I mean really, you should KNOW that you cannot just drivel on about someone's work in a negative way WITHOUT ELABORATING.

You may or may not have already addressed these questions but I honestly couldn't give a shit because it doesn't seem like your doing shit about it accept spreading your insane ideals on a site thats not even focused on philosophy.

For the record you've already insulted yourself. your post are pretentious, arrogant, and melodramatic. Your not GOD, your just a person with unrealistic ideals wasting character space to make us feel bad for BEING HUMAN. And that pisses me off more than your delusional mindset of being "Holier than thou" , your an asshole and can go fuck yourself.

1. That's a very bad example, mate. No action stands for the man. [Ignoring your assumptions]

2. Wow. You are trying to form an argument with other sources that doesn't justify anything of life; only the ignorance of it. [Learn to speak through your own mind; not others.]

3. I'm sorry that you are pissing yourself off by assuming things about me that are frankly not at all true. [You are fascinating.]

At 1/8/12 02:03 AM, life wrote: You say it gets you nowhere but where exactly are you trying to get? Your existence is short and it ends the same for everyone.

So, your name is life, and you think this is what life is about? Ignoring this world's blatant problems? Living under our false sense of happiness and security?

When you live in a world that makes no sense; that ingrains you with ignorance. You begin to rebel and question as to why this world makes utterly no sense.. Then, you start seeing how ignorant the human race is; how they actually think adding value; standards; limits; labels actually hold any merit. Then, you realise that this world imprisons 90% of our will; deceives you from the truth; in a pool full of careless shadows that call themselves 'humans', and all you can do is become the sun that is trapped in darkness.

I will never pretend that something is fine, when it's not.

I will never even think that the minerals in the ground hold any value; money can suck my dick too.

I will never see how this world is so convoluted through things that people are too ignorant to realise. Then, there are things they aren't too ignorant to realise, but are too weak-minded to apply themselves to it.

It's an act of weakness, nothing more, nothing less.

I'm one of the very few who is not indulging in selfish practices, who has maintained a healthy life; mind, who is not selfish.. who has spent dilligent time in putting a philosophy together that didn't leave anything out. Significant, and insignificant. Through a balance of concordance and contradiction. Through light & shadow. I'm only trying to tear this world apart and put the real pieces pieces back together.. Through strength and weakness.. Nobody is perfect. What you can be is become the best you can be, and that is I aim for.. With utter passion and grace.. I have alot of ire towards this race, but what do you expect..? I'm only human..

The more I put the pieces to myself together; the more this world falls apart.

The world is what you make of it; only if you trust in yourself.

The man who cannot stand; is a man who's vision falls.

My words are as whole as a hole can be. In a sense, they are no more solid than anyone's word.. Yet, in the end.. It stands as their words fall; since they've always been weak to begin with..

At 1/8/12 01:53 AM, life wrote: You're a dangerously insane human being.

Explain what the difference is between ignorant happiness and your "drive" to improve the human race in terms of importance to a person? Both groups are seeking the same pleasure inducing brain chemicals. Every action you do even if it is to assist other people and change the world is inherently egotistic because you take pleasure in helping others.

You sound like a stupid pretentious 16 year old that has discovered weed for the first time. Calm the fuck down.

Dangerously insane.. How so?

No, you see.. Ignorant happiness gets you nowhere.. It's ignorant, it's fruitless.. it's hollow and an act of weakness..

I'm trying to fix this world because it NEEDS to be fixed. 99.9999999999% of our race form completely retarded arguments.. retarded views.. retarded beliefs.. retarded ideals.. It's all simply retarded and I do not seem to see how hard it is to see that these people do not deserve to be an influence when they are a stranger to their own reason; when they do not stand for the man they truly are; when they put on a mask in the face of darkness -- completely ignoring this world's hellfire -- that we've created, and fed.. and fed.. and fed.. with our fears.. our weaknesses.. and our ignorance..

At 1/8/12 01:42 AM, Mezmerization wrote: ...Do you REALLY have nothing better to be doing with your time?

I've read through a few of you're posts, and all i've gathered from them is that you think you're better than all of us, and that we're all deluded, brainwashed, mindless drones. Which, by the way, is being deluded and selfish in itself, so you've been basically contradicting yourself this entire time.

Happiness is basically just the product of enzymes and chemicals in our brains that elevate in levels when we accomplish something, be it from the girl that we love saying yes, or finally getting that promotion. If those chemicals didn't exist, or we didn't chase them (which, we always will- our mbrain craves the stuff), then we wouldn't even bother doing anything productive, and humanity would basically collapse within itself. Everyone would be apathetic losers that couldn't give two shits about anyone else.

If no one was happy and just content with were they are in life, they wouldn't strive to better themselves, or help other people. Everyone would be working low-income jobs that are just enough to get by. There would be no media, because nothing would exite or move them at all. This means that your favorite video game wouldn't exist, and neither would your favorite song, or your favorite sport.

I could go on, but fuck it- it's 12:30 at night, and i need to get to bed.

I have quite the time on my hands, really.

You gathered it wrong. I just appear to be what you think.

You see, I'm not trying to say that all 'happiness' is bad. I'm referring to the fruitless 'happiness' that is only instituted in our lives just for the sake of meaking life more tolerable.. Just to ignore the inevitable.

Sleep well. :3

That gays are always moody?

I mean super moody..

I swear that there is something completely awry about them..

Just saying, mate.

At 1/8/12 12:25 AM, bgraybr wrote:

At 1/7/12 05:47 PM, Insanctuary wrote:

That sounds like an incredibly stereotypical view of gay couples. What does empty sex have to do with gay marriage or gay love? Sorry but your entire argument is based on a completely warped perception of what gay relationships are. They're no different from any other relationship. They can be shallow or rebellious, but aren't necessarily.

Really? I was just generalising if they DID. As in.. You know.. Kind of like Friends With Benefits?

Why don't you look at /everything/ else I pointed out.. ^^

At 1/8/12 12:28 AM, II2none wrote: Dude this whole thread is useless, and just as meaningless as you claim the human race is.
Your not going to be takin seriously on a site thats majority full of Adolescents that couldn't give two fucks what you think. Especially since it's just a long as rant about how weak the human race is.

Your unnecessarily long rants are about as effective as posting : "I don't want to live on this planet anymore."

Now, hush.

How exactly is it useless? Just because you say it is without a proper refutation?

This race truly is ignorant, I swear.

Trust me, this is not useless as you make it so.. Not forming an argument is more useless, my friend.. It's called 'being counter-intuitive'. If you are going to insult me, or deem my scholarly work in any way, shape or form.. Make sure you properly reasses yourself before making a fool out of yourself. I mean really, you should KNOW that you cannot just drivel on about someone's work in a negative way WITHOUT ELABORATING.

Yeah, he pretty much can. Everybody here thinks your view is fucking retarded.

Thinks? Why is that?

You see.. if you are not going to argue with me because of allegedly jaded notions; when you are the one with a jaded view of this world, Mr. Self Centered.. Wow, man.. Can you do any better than that? You want me to defend my argument when I clearly am defending.. Yet, you persist on saying this and that without defending your own claim.. How does that work again?

Yes, I believe I can change this world. What you say of my philosophy does not deem it anymore so. You are just misinterpreting it, without supplying actual reasons as to why.. Just more assumptions, regurgitated defenses, etc.. You really aren't argueing genuinely, my man.. You just are conducting your oppositions out of an already hollow world's 'logic'.

I gave you a reason that you shot down because you rather live your pathetic lifestyle that you have yet to defend with your own genuine argument.. When you are blatantly a stranger to your own reason.. When you aren't doing a great job standing for the man you say you are.. You seem more like a clump of mass of ignorance more than a human being.. It's an act of weakness, nothing more.

I'm speaking my genuine word. Just because I am on the 'interwebz' now, doesn't mean that's all I do.. You clearly are ignorant. I'm just argueing on here to see if anyone can give me a legitimate argument while /being/ a legitimate being.. [which you clearly are not]. Perhaps I was wrong, because really.. I sense alot of you are just enjoying living your selfish lives, judging others.. Living in your realm of ignorance for your pursuit of 'happiness'. Also, I'm just speaking my mind.. I'm sorry that it goes beyond over your head, because your head is stuck in your ass currently.. Might aswell say.. ''Let's get crackin!'' Yet.. you aren't getting anywhere.. Just hiding under your blanket, and creating your own fake havens.

Being self-centered is not something you should be proud of..

Mhmm.. You see, you are just angry that I am taking away your sweets, mate. You want to selfishly indulge yourself, and not do anything that is too 'inconvenient' for you. Which is why you are pathetic. Which is why you are weak-minded. Which is why you are a stranger to your own reason, because you are just riding your own ignorance.

Once again.. You don't see my point. I'm not that surprised, really. Labels are fine.. If they are used to form a bridge between our mind and the real world inorder to communicate.. It's not fine that people believe it's a solid property..

My argument sucks? Oh really? You haven't said anything plausible. You are just refuting out of your own bias ignorance, and selfish intentions. Which makes you a fool, essentially.

No. It just means that YOUR flaws is what makes me APPEAR to be a /GOD/. /Flaws/ that you DO NOT WANT TO ADMIT TO.

Simple. Your argument is full of weakness, ignorance and selfish intentions. My argument is full of passion, effort, care and concern of our world and it's inhabitants. You can persist deeming the overall nature of my philosophy because it opposes your lesser intentions.. but you cannot deny that my philosophy makes you look pathetic through what fuels it.

Can you be more specific? I mean.. I do not let alienated influences phase me. What are you talking about? Do you let influences anally rape you or something? Is that what you are trying to say? How is that even possible if your head would only get in the way?

1. I was metaphorically speaking.. That humans are always trying to find an answer; a purpose.. like a rat who finds the exist you dimwit.

2. We need to make the best out of ourselves.. Just because we are COMPLETELY SHITTY NOW. Does not mean we HAVE to be in the future.. We CAN change when we WANT to.

3. No, you misinterpreted what I was saying. I was saying that humans have a default position. We wanted more than this default position, and that is what tipped the scales of balance.

As I said.. We are the root of all problems NOW. BUT IF WE FIX OURSELVES.. Then.. [Insert OBVIOUS RESULT HERE].

Nature is both peaceful and chaos. Maybe it's never peaceful because you are so fucked up in the head from all the negativity that you pretend is positivity, or atleast neutral.. since it caters to your weak-minded; selfish intentions..

If anything.. YOU ARE THE ALIENS. You sit here and probe others.. One day, I'm going to make you probe yourselves.. [lmfao] Because you can pretend to be strong.. and act like you actually are a better person.. When you are built on with straws; ignorance, and selfish weakness.

You know.. Actually forming a solid character.. not making up a character just to survive in this world? THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE? That actually shuts down people's oppositions? That actually stands without hesitation and faces everything without weakness? COME ON.

No.. What makes us human is NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. Your argument is very hollow, just like you, mate. You blatantly disagree with me because you are an egoistical, selfish prick who really had a jaded view on life.

Give me a BETTER ARGUMENT.

At 1/8/12 12:08 AM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 1/7/12 11:56 PM, Insanctuary wrote:

At 1/7/12 11:52 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 1/7/12 11:49 PM, Insanctuary wrote:

At 1/7/12 11:43 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

We are destroying the VERY essence that makes us human!! Can't you see!

And the only way to stop it is by typing angry rants on an internet forum.

I believe it's an internet forum that has individual human beings..with individual [yet neglected] minds..

What are you trying to say, mate?

My point is you're preaching to the deaf. None of us care what you're rambling about, and you're a douchebag for acting like you're smarter than us just because you've fooled yourself into thinking you understand human nature.

Intelligence doesn't exist. I'm simple aware more than you'll ever be at this rate.

AS IF YOU KNOW WHAT HUMAN NATURE IS ABOUT.. PFHAHAHAHA. Look at you.. putting on your hypocrite pants.. *Whistles*

You're either trolling hardcore or just crazy as fuck. Either way, i'm gonna go ahead and carry on with my day instead of arguing an endless argument with somebody on the internet. Feel free to accuse me of being pathetic or weak minded or whatever because I don't feel like having a meaningless argument that won't influence the life of myself or others in any way. I just hope you realize that as you sit here calling us pathetic, you just wasted the last 9 hours of your life arguing with strangers who don't take you seriously. Myself included.

I'm neither or. Perhaps you aren't pathetic, per se.. You /are/ too ignorant for your own good.

I want people to oppose me. You guys know you can't oppose me, because then you will only oppose yourselves.. Since that is my argument basically.. My argument basically turns YOU against YOURSELF.

Grand, isn't it?

At 1/7/12 11:52 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 1/7/12 11:49 PM, Insanctuary wrote:

At 1/7/12 11:43 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

We are destroying the VERY essence that makes us human!! Can't you see!

And the only way to stop it is by typing angry rants on an internet forum.

I believe it's an internet forum that has individual human beings..with individual [yet neglected] minds..

What are you trying to say, mate?

My point is you're preaching to the deaf. None of us care what you're rambling about, and you're a douchebag for acting like you're smarter than us just because you've fooled yourself into thinking you understand human nature.

Psh. As if you can speak for the mass? Ideas are neutral property and anyone is welcome to accept it or decline it as they wish.. Yet, it's quite amusing that people would retreat from an argument that is against them.. Yet, nobody can completely shut down my argument without proving that they are weak-minded; a stranger to their own reason; built on with straws.. yadda yadda.

I'm a douchebag, right? When you are the ones not even trying to give me a reasonable argument.. Instead, you just prove more and more how pathetic you guys are.

Intelligence doesn't exist. I'm simple aware more than you'll ever be at this rate.

AS IF YOU KNOW WHAT HUMAN NATURE IS ABOUT.. PFHAHAHAHA. Look at you.. putting on your hypocrite pants.. *Whistles*

At 1/7/12 10:36 PM, VenomKing666 wrote: I think it obviously is, the bible is not always clear about it (but then again is it clear about anything) but it is pushed by religious authority figures as if it was and the common religious person sees it as a sin and it pushes people to be homophobes.

Saying you find homosexuality disgusting is not a valid argument because live and let live, some people find feet disgusting but nobody is out to get foot fetishists. So this argument is moot.

Live and let live is such a flawed saying.. When people DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY LIVE FOR.

Lmfao. Our ignorance is so formidable.. That it devours us whole.

Thus, your 'argument' is not moot. Try to come up with a BETTER argument towards the viability of homosexual relationships.

At 1/7/12 11:43 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

We are destroying the VERY essence that makes us human!! Can't you see!

And the only way to stop it is by typing angry rants on an internet forum.

I believe it's an internet forum that has individual human beings..with individual [yet neglected] minds..

What are you trying to say, mate?

ABOVE POST IS FOR RACISTBASSIST [BECAUSE APPARENTLY I CAN'T 'NEST' < e m>'s]

At 1/7/12 10:56 PM, Lintire wrote:

At 1/7/12 10:46 PM, Insanctuary wrote: It's just fog.. Nothing more.. nothing less.. Stop being so deluded. :/

You're an idiot.

You still haven't actually said what your problem with the current status of the human race is other then that we're all obviously deluded and we're achieving nothing.

DELUSIONS. EVERYWHUN LOOK AT ALL THESE DELUSIONS. WE'RE TRIPPING DELUSIONS. STRAWS. Whatevs.

And by the way, please stop writing paragraphs to describe what can easily be said in a few sentences. You're being unnecessarily verbose, and the posts are boring as shit so it's a chore to read them.

How am I an idiot?

The human race's ignorance. How so many people are like braindead. Only book smart? Not awake inside? Ignorant of their own ignorance? Severe tunnel vision? A stranger to their own reason? Fucked up bbeyond repair even when they had a chance to be fixed, but this world strongly encourages people to find their own way when we don't know how to distinguish our faces from our ass to begin with.

You are deluded.

No. Since, you obviously do not get the point. Since you do not see what I'm trying to point out. No. You think what I'm saying can be said in a few words, when it can't be.

Self centered, eh? You don't find that pathetic in anyway?

I'm not acting high and mighty. I APPEAR to be, because sadly.. our race likes to be lesser than what they are truly capable of. You have NO idea how much it actually hurts for me to insult my own race.. Rather you'd believe that or not. Also, 'just as real' is not REAL enough. What do YOU expect me to do? When I am not trying to save the trees.. feed the poor; hungry children.. etc. When I am trying to get down to the ROOTS of our problems which is.. YOU GOT IT. The HUMAN race. THAT is the VERY root of our PROBLEMS. The hungry children.. the trees.. E FUCKING T C is JUST A BRANCH. I'm cutting the roots, not branches, mate. I'm not a pompous douchebag.. Atleast I am NOT self centered like you.. You're the selfish prick, mate.

That isn't logic.. For all you know.. WE COULD'VE called our planet VAGINA MUSTARD. We could've called houses KIMONOS. I don't know.. You get the idea.. The words we use is simply a bridge to our mind so we can communicate our thoughts unto the REAL WORLD. The problem is that people SEE IT AS SOLID. When it's NOT. Nothing we do is say is THAT solid. We are PAINTING AND ALREADY PAINTED WORLD DAMN IT. I lol'd at 'THE POWER OF LOVE'. If you haven't noticed.. I am BEING SEEN AS AN ASSHOLE because people like you MAKE ME HAVE TO. I try to be humble.. I try to be nice.. I try to do things without getting too wrapped into it.. BUT THIS RACE LEAVES ME NO CHOICE. I'm not going to pretend that everything is ok, that you should be whoever you want to be.. WHEN YOU CANNOT EVEN DISTINGUISH WHAT IS RIGHT FROM WRONg.. WHAT IS REAL FROM WAKe.. WHEN YOU ONLY CATER TO YOUR SELFISH NEEDS.. AND NEVER ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING FORMIDABLE.. BEYOND YOUR CHARACTER.. Every day I am on edge BECAUSE of this petty race. IM GOING TO SPEAK MY MIND. UNLIKE YOU.. IM NOT A STRANGER TO MY REASON.

No.. You CLEARLY aren't getting the point.. The POINT is that PEOPLE DEEM IT FACT. WHEN ITS NOT A FACt. It's an imaginary name we've given so we could establish a communication between our mind and this world FOR FUCKS SAKE. I don't care if they are labels.. That is fine! It's the fact that people are under the impression that it's SOLID.. like it's a FACT.. When it's just a FUCKING LABEL!

I'm not saying my life is superior for fucking sake. Stop seeing me as if I am some guy on a high horse.. I just have BIG ideas.. I see flaws.. your arguments are flawed.. and all you do is regurgitate yourself involving your 'happiness' when you are only proving my point more and more that you are WEAK-MINDED. Why do you THINK you actually can form a PLAUSIBLE argument if you are weak? If you use a jaded perspective to defend yourself? Plus your lovely assumptions of me. It's quite grand, don't you think?

The truth I speak of is not primarily established by me, it's established by the blatant nature of your IGNORANCE. If a man cannot stand; the man's vision collapses. You are a STRANGER to your own REASON. You are self-centered. You insult and assume things about me. You act like you are even winning this argument. Psh. You are very egoistic yourself, mate. You're the one who thinks their selfish indulgence of great inertia is a great thing just because it 'feels good'. When you could be doing something MUCH more beneficial? Like.. actually learning how to argue properly?

No.. Nobody grooms me. I groom myself, and I only listen to other influences. When I was naive when I was younger.. SURE. Now? Psh. That is laughable. I'm just speaking my mind, and it's not my fault NOBODY can form a PLAUSIBLE argument without proving that they are weak-minded.. that they are a stranger to their own reason.. that they DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TLAKING ABOUT.

1. THERE IS NO PURPOSE. THERE IS NO EXIT TO THE RAT MAZE. CLIMB OVER THE WALLS AND FACE THE WORLD ON THE OUTSIDE.

2. THERE IS /NO/ PURPOSE.

3. WHAT PURPOSE? WE ARE ALIVE. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? Anything more is just taking LIFE FOR GRANTED.

Well.. you are quite the convoluted character my friend.. ^^ I'm not even saying I /know/. I'm telling you what I SEE. It makes SO MUCH SENSE. Where else is there to turn but the HUMAN RACE. Well.. Does 'doing something' actually get you somewhere rather your selfish indulgences is just that sugar on top?

WE ARE NOT THE ANIMALS. WE ARE OF US. THE HUMAN RACE. STOP COMPARING US TO ANIMALS GOD DAMN IT. Nature is a balance of chaos and peace.. SO ARE WE.. but you see. THERE IS SUCH THING AS UNECCESSARY AND AVOIDABLE CHAOS.. THAT YOU HUMANS COMPLETELY INDUCE NONCHALANTLY..

Building things? BEFORE WE BUILD OURSELVES? Are you that foolish? Humans are flawed inside and out, man. If they build things.. THAT IS JUST AS FLAWED. Of course.. there are some things that aren't as flawed since there was a way to capitalise on this.. but the bigger picture here is.. WE BUILD OURSELVES BEFORE WE EVEN TOUCH THIS WORLD. WE SHOULD SEE HOW MUCH OF A SINGLE UNIVERSE WE ARE AND NOT WHAT IS IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM.

We are destroying the VERY essence that makes us human!! Can't you see!

At 1/7/12 10:23 PM, Lintire wrote: Everytime you argue about opinions, a kitten dies of AIDS.

No, I'm serious. You argue about an opinion and a kitten dies alone and scared of kitten aids in a dumpster.

That being said, I'm now going to argue about your opinion.

You say that we need to cast aside our personal needs (well, wants), in order to become stronger as a race. That's your entire post. In a nutshell. That every single other little petty thing in our everyday lives isn't as important as becoming one giant hivemind and jizzing over the universe with our combined powers.

First of all, what are you - a fucking communist?

Second, I refuse to become a part of someone else's machine just so they can build a bigger sandcastle. That's their dream. I don't give a damn about someone else's dream, and I don't expect anyone else to, either!

Not to mention that your post is entirely inane. The people who pursue happiness, the ability to be content, they're going to be completely fucking useless as a cog of said machine anyway. The people of this world with creative skills, and there are many, many said people - they're using it. This generation has had the finest masterpieces throughout human history and its only getting better!

On an individual basis, one person giving up his dreams and deciding to devote his hands and mind to the greater good is just going to become the fuckpuppet of someone richer. Happens all the time. We already have a machine going, and it's one that caters to its cogs in order to get richer.

Yes, I agree, said machine is stupid. But it runs the world sufficiently and we're not going extinct, at all. I'd like to see some citations that we're going extinct, that creativity has become blaise, that masterpieces aren't still occurring!

Citation needed. (In a nutshell)

Your word play only screams of ignorance if you state it as 'fact' with no defense to back it up, mate.

Now, you've got it all wrong.. I'm not trying to build a tower with everyone.. I'm trying to point out that our human race needs to make the best of their potential.. Nobody is even SCRATCHING the surface.. They are too busy selfishly feeding their voids that get us NOWHERE. Everyone, indvidually.

You are taking this out of proportion. I'm not trying to turn us into cogs.. If you haven't noticed, we basically /are/ cogs right now.. Our will is severely limited because of the way this world was built on straws and bias logic. I'm just trying to get people to stop being so weak-minded and DO something TO PUT SOME EFFORT into changing this world damn it.. This world is in a shambles.. Keep denying it all you may want.. but this world is a shithole BECAUSE of us being shitHEADS. Yes, the majorty of our race's heads are made out of straws, shit, and pixie dust.. I guess?

I KNOW this RACE HAS SHOWN THEIR POTENTIAL. But LOOK AT YOU GUYS. You aren't EVEN close to that.. Our ideas are formidable.. and people can do anything.. We are NOT limited.. Humans have always been able to do anything they can.. [I'm not going to even argue if you start with ''DERP. Are you saying we can do magical things too?''.] It's the VERY fact that you rather hide in your holes and not do something that doesn't involve being ignorant and being weak-minded.. acting like your ideas are SOOOO significant when you and yourself is terribly flawed on the inside. It's the fact that you ignore everything you deem uneccessary.. when these scars are just as much as a part of us as everything else.. IGNORING is an act of weakness.. If you HAVE to ignore it in the FIRST GOD DAMNED PLACE.. it MUST be BOTHERING YOU.

Nobody is going to control me.. and I doubt anyone can delude me with their deception.. What are you talking about? I cut my marionettes strings A LONG FUCKING TIME AGO.

It doesn't matter.. THE MACHINE WAS SET UP WITH SELFISH BIAS. Humans were LEAD INTO THINKING THEY ARE SIMPLY JUST THERE. They do not even HAVE THE SLIGHTEST CLUE WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF ACHIEIVING.. WHAT WE CAN FIGHT FOR.. HOW FAR OUR WILL AND PASSION CAN GET US..

THIS WORLD HAS NEVER MADE ANY SENSE BECAUSE HUMANS ARE NONSENSICAL. [few exceptions.. again.. and again.. and again..]

We have polluted our world with our WEAK imaginative realm.. Well done! *claps*

This world reflects off everything a kid does when they are playing a game.. COME ON. Is it THAT HARD TO SEE?

This world had been turned into a game of monopoly; hierarchy.. A game of puppets, and shadows.. and mirrors and smoke.. It's a GOD DAMNED FOG THAT PEOPLE NEED TO STOP PRETENDING IS SOLID..

It's just fog.. Nothing more.. nothing less.. Stop being so deluded. :/

Playing pretend? What do you mean by that? Those chemicals being released whenever I do whatever is more real then some bullshit philosophical notion that the world desperately needs saving.

Convincing yourself that everything is fine according to your standards, when your standards were set specifically to cater to your weak-minded intentions.

Oh, I'm a defeatist because I'm not some angsty anti-conformist. Guess what? You know why those shit actually have merit? It's because we project value onto them. If you really want to get down to it, absolutely everything can be seen as meaningless because life as we know it is meaningless and is nothing more then natural random chance. The universe keeps on ticking and it always will (Herp derp proton decay) What do you mean by understanding yourself? I am a human being, nothing more. There isn't some grand design or higher purpose. So feeling good is a pretty good substitute. I feel the way I do because of things called "chemicals" that our body naturally releases. And yes, feeling good benefits me, primarily because it feels good.

Perhaps you should reevaluate what you think of me. I'm simply being just as human as you are, and our way of seeing life is obviously on two completely different sides. So give me a favor and reassess your arguments before you initiate them. I am speaking my voice just as much as you, and everyone else are. Boohoo.. I feel as though the majority of you are dancing around fruitless indulgence. What are you going to do about it? I feel as though it's true, and your poor arguments seem to agree with me.

It seems more like you are stuck with how scientists labelled everything.. Like it actually holds any merit once again.. So it deludes you from seeing this fair message of mine. To see that there really isn't that much coming from these 'indulgences' of ours that only feeds us.. When we will never be satisfied; when we want more afterwards.. there is much more to life than becoming a slave to our own minds.

I asked you ''if you knew yourself'', because your argument is built by your fraility and regurgitation of human labels. You are just spouting anger filled responses that is clarifying that you think of me as a fool, simple because my idea is completely against your 'way of life'. When I'm trying to make a point that your 'way of life' isn't actually a 'way'. It's this state of inertia that you repeat until you die.. How grand is that?

I do not believe in a higher purpose.. or grand design.. I do believe in us, and I think people should be presenting the best of themselves.. not what they pretend is the 'best'.

If you really want to get into a philosophical discussion, I would like you to look up determinism so you can realize that you were groomed to think the way you do also and maybe you'll get the fuck off your high horse.

Groomed by what? I was quite alone, my friend. I don't see what point you are trying to drive into me. You are just regurgitating for 'facts', and not actually using your /own/ mind to assess a reasonable volume of genuine sense. What high horse? In case you haven't notice.. you are the one who is assuming of my character without a defense to support it.. You are the one who is weak at arguing and things your empty insults and your undertones of your attitude is going to phase me.. I'm just trying to draw to a point that I genuinely see, and I am not afraid to state it over and over again..

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOUR 'HAPPINESS' DELUDES YOU FROM ACTUALLY MAKING SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR LIFE. Did it ever occur to you that you are alive.. Where you stand.. That SOMETHING must be off that you actually are obsessed with 'happiness'. Taking life for granted is what you are doing, mate. It's an act of weakness. It's a will to ignorance.

How did we fuck it up? Life will always go on, unless we go all Necron on the planet and start killing all signs of life, even at the microscopic level. How do we defy nature's code? We evolved to be this way, so fuck it, we have free will and the ability to have dominion over everything.

We fucked up, mate. We fucked up big time.. Come on, man.. Are you really asking me this? Are you really asking me why a race that thinks minerals have value.. that built a pseudo-video game out of a once balanced world of chaos and peace. We DID tip the scales.. [obviously metaphorically speaking..] a world that actually thinks age holds merit to how significant one's voice is to be..? Where people actually think their clothes allow their ideas to hold merit.. Anybody can slip on a suit, put on a half-smile and speak LIES. Come on man. Open your eyes. This world isn't going anywhere. Nor are we. Nobody /KNOWS/ anything more than our ancestors back in the Stone Age did. We have been painting an already painted world FOR 100's OF YEARS. We are just /discovering/ and /labelling/ 'adding value' even more.. We don't /know/ anything.. It's just us perverting our bridge of communication..

We defy nature's code simply because we actually have control over ourselves?

At 1/7/12 09:49 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 1/7/12 09:28 PM, Insanctuary wrote: 1. That isn't fulfilling. That is feeding a void that is never satisfied.

And that's why we go for sustainable happiness. Herp derp.

2. You are admitting that you are a sad defeatist then. Ignoring the rest of the world, when everything interconnects. Significant or insignificant. Everything comes together in a coinciding and contradicting realm of balance. What you are doing is tipping the scales like a selfish twit. This world was mighty fine before the human race existed.. I wonder why..?

How am I a defeatist? Because I don't really give that much of a fuck about the people in other countries to go out of my way to help them? That's being apathetic to their plight. What I do does not tip this bullshit idea of some scale that needs to be perfectly balanced. Such scale does not exist.

Bahahaha, the world was mighty fine before we came? What criteria are we going off of? Ever since life began, there has never really been an equilibrium and everything constantly tries to outfuck everything else.

1. Elaborate what 'happiness' you are talking about.. Happiness you get by playing pretend? Or happiness you get from loved ones, accomplishments, etc?

2. No. You are a defeatist because you only build on the imaginary building blocks. As in, this fruitless foundation our human race came up with, when they went too far, and now people think that the labels; value we've given everything holds actual merit. Do you truly even understand yourself? Let alone what you feel? Why do you feel it? Does it actually benefit you in any way.. or does it only benefit you because it 'feels good'. Do you even try to make sense out of your own ideals? Or does it just sort of grow under the radar? Without your consent? Where.. you just go with it?

3. The thing you forgot is, that the human race is able to defy a great amount of nature's code. Animals do not, and are forever enclosed in their instinctual processes. While man defies this, and is able to ignore their instincts; as much as we can still feel them underneath.. We still don't act upon them like animals do. We have a sense of 'control' and that is what makes us completely different, mate. We still fucked this world up FAR more than these animals ever could.

At 1/7/12 09:25 PM, Demonator911 wrote: Dude calm down. The only reason you say this is because you're not happy. It's like having a perfect life. Eventually it's the norm, so it's no longer perfect, and you're no longer happy. Everything has an antithesis, even you're stupid ramblings. People are happy. I'm happy because of my accomplishments. I like proving that I can succeed to both myself and the people whose oppinions I care about. There's nothing wrong with enjoying life.

I am calm, and passionate at that. I'm also not /exactly/ 'happy' per se, but I am content with where I am. My 'happiness' is true, your 'happiness' is a mix of genuine happiness and the fabricated happiness.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying life if you are genuine unto yourself, but you also have to take into account that this world's obstacle isn't just yours.. It's everybody's. It's just amusing how people rather dwell in their hollow happiness rather than make something out of themselves and make an effort to do something that will be invaluable.

Do you know what it's like to stand and be fearless? To be able to feel every word you speak of? To feel the world on your shoulders? To take every step with your own will? To fight for what is truly right, and to build a philosophy that brings everything and everyone together? To find the roots to the problems and find every way possible to cut them without being bias or objective. My philosophy does not live through me, it lives through yours, and everyone else's flaws. You cannot hide from what you know you cannot deem false.

When I speak. My body shakes from the sheer amount of energy that I am using. It no longer feels as though my lungs are breathing in the air, but my soul.. I can feel this lake of fire in my chest that is concerned about everything that truly matters.. I can feel earthquakes going off in my legs..

I. Am. Truly. Passionate. About. What. I. Do. And. Say..

You cannot hide from the truth.. and I will continue finding all the ways I can to push over your cardhouse you pretend is a brick house.

Your head full of straws is going to get incinerated. ^^

At 1/7/12 09:11 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 1/7/12 09:09 PM, Insanctuary wrote: Interesting response. It still does not validate that 'happiness' should be pursued like it's our life force.

And what would be better besides fulfillment of self? Happiness feels good. Other things don't. Why not pick happy?

Our willpower, our sense of direction is being clogged up with this 'guilty pleasure'.

Compared to doing what? I give fuck all of a fuck about the rest of the world.

1. That isn't fulfilling. That is feeding a void that is never satisfied.

2. You are admitting that you are a sad defeatist then. Ignoring the rest of the world, when everything interconnects. Significant or insignificant. Everything comes together in a coinciding and contradicting realm of balance. What you are doing is tipping the scales like a selfish twit. This world was mighty fine before the human race existed.. I wonder why..?