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At 7/28/07 02:13 AM, Frankafus-Studios wrote:

At 7/28/07 02:10 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: I can't eat celery. I'm allergic.

oh you poor thing.

I have a suspicion that I'm not missing out on anything by not eating celery.

After all, it's one of the few foods that have negative calories; you could be in a field full of celery, and starve to death.

I can't eat celery. I'm allergic.

At 7/28/07 01:55 AM, Ecke wrote:

At 7/28/07 01:54 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: Why?

To scrape the gay off it.

You have a very, very broad, unorthodox definition of "gay", then.

They traded one ironically-unironic black rebellious youth culture fad for another? Outrage!

At 7/28/07 01:53 AM, Ecke wrote: I'd smash you into the wall if I saw someone using that car online.

Why?

In honor of NG's new redesign, I felt it was only appropriate to redesign my NG NASCAR that I race online.

I think it's hot, myself. NG should totally sponsor a racecar. If Scientology can, why can't NG?

Some one tell Dan to speak up and enunciate! I can't understand him.

Either that or Gamespot just has horrible audio.

Dancing Baby
Hamster Dance
Numa Numa
Wazzap!

At 7/27/07 05:29 PM, darkgift1 wrote: Whatever. You. Say.

Youre right. Youre just the czar of right. You know everything and everybody else knows nothing.

Now we can all go back to our bullshit lives of happiness and sunshine.

Peachey.

You can stop with the sarcasm, you little dick. You're not making or proving any points--if anything, you're just illustrating that you never had an argument that could be substantiated.

While I personally don't approve of polygamy, I frankly see no reason for it's illegalization. What goes on in the people's houses, as long as it doesn't harm or threaten the life, liberty, or property of others is not the government's business.

While polygamous relationships may be prone to spousal abuse--the spousal abuse should be the problem, not polygamy. After all, there's plenty of spousal abuse in monogamous marriages too--and no one would dare illegalizing marriage as we know it.

At 7/27/07 01:39 AM, darkgift1 wrote: Whatever you say.

I cant change your mind for you, so fuck it.

Actually, you've already changed my mind.

Before this thread, I thought people that believed in chemtrails were just paranoid.

Now, I know that they are not only paranoid, but gullible, easily misled, stupid, and naive.

At 7/26/07 08:03 PM, darkgift1 wrote: Theres info in those links i gave above.

No. There is not the first shred of actual scientfic evidence in any of those links.

There is no composition analysis of various chemtrails compared to contrails.
There is no numeral, statistically significant correlation between alleged symptoms and chemtrails for various areas.
There's no pictures of the part of the plane that does the spraying.

If they dont satisfy you, then you should do some research yourself.

NO. IT IS YOUR JOB TO PROVIDE THESE. You're the one that's making the accusation, that the government is spraying chemtrails, you're the one trying to convince us, you provide the factual scientific evidence to support your argument. And the fact that you can't present such evidence it only means one thing: that the evidence doesn't exist--there is no factual, scientific basis behind the notion of chemtrails. If there is, then you need to show this evidence.

After all, when I do the research, when I look at the science involved, I come to the conclusion that they are nothing but contrails and anyone who thinks that they are chemtrails is batshit insane.

At 7/26/07 06:50 PM, darkgift1 wrote: I dont know what else to tell you...... You all seem to not be open to any change whatsoever. Heh....Youre all men arent you? Well whatever.... Ill just give you MEN a couple of links and hope that SOMETHING positive comes from them.

I am open to change. However, I don't stupidly jump on bandwagons without good reason.
In order for me to change, I need to see facts. Research. Studies.

Again. You want people to change, GIVE THEM FACTS!

> Show controlled, laboratory studies of the chemical composition of these chemtrails.

> Show a diagram or picture of the part of the plane that does the spraying.

> Show where purchase orders were made for the chemicals allegedly used.

> Show numerical, statistically significant correlations between the symptoms caused by chemtrails and their number, for various areas around the country.

FACTS.

At 7/26/07 05:43 AM, darkgift1 wrote: Okay man. Just go here

And think outside the box for once, will you?

I'll think outside the box when I see a valid reason to.

All I see is a bunch of psuedoscience, unfounded assumptions, non-sequitur arguments, and a general ignorance of atmospheric dynamics.

The symptoms of "Chem-illness" include sore throat, "flu-like" feeling, diarrhea, itchy eyes, abdominal pain, joint aches and pain, headaches, fatigue and respiratory illnesses; upper respiratory and blood infections, severe asthma attacks, dizziness, inability to 'get a deep breath".

How convenient is it that all of these symptoms are caused by chemtrails? Everything from pollen and pet dander allergies, to indigestion, to joint pain--all of these common maladies that people have experienced for eons, well before the invention of the airplane, all of these have the same symptoms as chemtrails!

In order for me to think outside the box, I need hard evidence.
> I want a picture of the part of the plane that sprays the chemtrails.
> I want to see purchase orders where whoever is spraying this bought these chemicals--and where they were produced.
> I want to see a scientific, laboratory study where chemtrail air samples are compared to control samples. From different areas.
> I want to see numerical, statistically significant correlations.

Not what you've presented. Not pictures of contrails claimed to be chemtrails, not amateur speculation, not anecdotal evidence, and certainly not anonymous claims that they refill the chemical tanks when they empty the lavaoratory.

At 7/24/07 08:21 PM, Nylo wrote: Why not make national healthcare low-cost, instead of free? If people want healthcare, they should still have to pay for it; it's not cheap to pave the way of modern medicine. But I never hear about this concept, it's always about FREE healthcare.

Makes sense. You make people pay a small amount towards their healthcare (certainly no more than they can afford), and it's still cheap enough for them to seek out medical care when they need it, while at the same time, keeping people from filling up the doctor's office with cases of sniffles.

Thers always people like you that just loooooove to insult people.

I only insult people that bring it upon themselves. People that are naive enough into paranoia

I doubt that youve researched any of this.

Every legitimate source of knowledge disagrees with the whole notion of chemtrails.

Okay. Earthshine and ice crystals. Ill take your word for it.

You don't have to take my word for it. You can ask just about any accredited scientist, or anybody that's not a tin-foil hat wearing nut job, for that matter, and they'll tell you the same.

As far as the trails themselves, theres chemtrails and contrails. Contrails are really high in the sky and are water comning from behind the jet. Chemtrials, however, are closer to the ground and thicker.

Really? Every photo I see described as a chemtrail is interchangable with those of contrails.

Sometimes they are formed in to X's or tic-tac-toe patterns.

As are contrails.

These patterns sometimes cover entire towns.

Show us some examples.

No, I cant smell things that are thousands of feet up in the air, but I can smell them when the particles eventually descend down onto the earth.

And what do they smell like?

You can find a source for the contents of these chemicals if you just google "chemtrails". Also, I never said that I was an expert on these things.

You want to convince us to sign a petition, you find them and show them.

At 7/25/07 08:50 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/25/07 07:02 AM, darkgift1 wrote: Regardless, I doubt that breathing in chemicals for an extended period of time can be too healthy.

Oh god yeah, you wouldn't want to be breathing anything like oxygen or nitrogen or any number of chemicals that might be floating around there in the atmosphere.

I tell ya, that dihydrogen monoxide will kill you!

At 7/25/07 07:02 AM, darkgift1 wrote: Yup.... Those lines in the skies all sprayed from the nozzles of unmarked jets.

Unmarked in this sense meaning "branded commercial airliners".

The earth glows.

It's called earthshine.

In some places you can see a halo around the sun or the moon.

Ice crystals. See?

What are these chemical lines, you ask?

No, I don't ask. Because any sane person with the least bit of scientific knowledge knows they are composed of water. THEY ARE FUCKING WATER.

Lots of theories are floating around out there.

All of them emanating from beneath tin foil hats, no doubt.

Regardless, I doubt that breathing in chemicals for an extended period of time can be too healthy.

That's why you need to laminate your tin foil hat so you don't come into contact with the metal.

Yet the government insists that millions of people are just "imagining it".

Because they are.

Millions of people are just "imagining" jets forming X and tic-tac-toe shaped lines in the skies that leave a weird smell behind.

You can smell things at 30,000 feet above you huh?

Some things that have been found in these chemtrails are barium, aluminum, and even human pathogens.

Source?

Theres a bunch more things that I cant remember, but I doubt that breathing all that in is very healthy at all.

If you're such an expert on "chemtrails" then you ought to be able to recite them.

Sign this petition. You wont lose anything.

Except your sanity in believing this nonsense.

Alexa proves your friend wrong.

Link.

At 7/24/07 06:45 PM, Sugary-Cupcakes wrote: Hey, some guy PM'd me and talked about how the US could nuke Canada and all this other crap.
I told that like nuclear fallout would demolish the US's souls, then he said that winds would blow northeast...so is that last part true?

Depends on the jet stream and current weather patterns. Let's go to the map!

In the map below, the green arrows indicate wind direction. If Canada was nuked, areas on the western side of low pressure systems and behind cold fronts, as well as those on the eastern side of high-pressure areas, would experience contamination.

Moreover, since most of Canada's population lives in close proximity to the U.S. border, many northern U.S. counties would experience direct fallout from the blasts, in addition to wind-borne fallout.

No. I'm very quiet, reserved, and shy in real life.

At 7/24/07 07:02 PM, TjA wrote: England owned america, america never owned england. English had to help america in iraq,

Yes. And we all know what a smashing success you've accomplished there.

english never got helped vs germany.

Ever heard of lend-lease?
Was it the Americans that almost got pushed into the sea at Dunkirk? I don't think so.

America used a nuke to beat japan, england sues good ol' fashioned planes which are now deemed "unsafe to fly".

That's because the UK lacked the technology to develop a nuke.

At 7/24/07 06:36 PM, Z-Sector wrote: My current school. Not that I'm pissed, they were religious zealots. I came to school wearing a shirt with Jimi Hendrix giving the peace sign and holding a guitar hero controller. They asked what it was, and I said what it was. Then the principal said, "well, we don't allow rock music in this school." (oh shi--)

But...we built this city on rock and roll.

They don't allow rock music in this school--yet you weren't playing any music...hmm.

At 7/23/07 05:45 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 7/23/07 04:52 AM, Tomsan wrote: I can understand they still feel a grutch against you for this, even the new generations. Maybe instead of giving them a desert you should give them some green areas too.

I always find it funny when people say something like that. Indian reservations are all over, in every state. They have desert where their ancestors lived in desert, tropical areas, alpine areas, grasslands... all over.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en /0/02/Bia-map-indian-reservations-usa.pn g
This map disagrees with your assessment. Outside of the west and the Dakotas, nearly all reservations are minuscule, tiny enclaves.

They also don't pay taxes, have basically total sovereignty over their reservations, and are getting a pretty fucking good deal.

That's why so many suicide and murder rates on reservations are 1.5-2 times the national average?
[ http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/pub-res/natam.h tm]

Their ancestors' land was taken, yes, but that doesn't affect them today. If they really wanted to revert back to how they were before settlers arrived, then I wonder why instead of upholding their traditions and keeping their land unspoiled, they build gigantic Casinos, resorts, and other developments on their reservations?

They have to survive somehow. They can't live on the land (agriculture, herding,etc.) any longer, because they no longer have any land to live on. It's either arid desert or a small enclave of the most unproductive land in an area.

Step 1: Develop an ideology.
You have two choices--far left or far right. Sorry, no middle ground.

Step 2: Create a life story.
It doesn't matter if you've done it or not, what's important is that no one will fact check you on this. If they do, you should dismiss it publicly as an assault on one's family, rather than the issues.

Step 3: Develop a following.
Remember, your thoughts, opinion, and ego are more important than anyone else's. To prove it, you need to muster an army of moronic sheep that will follow, and more importantly, recite your thoughts, opinion, and ego to everyone that has the audacity to not watch/listen to you. A good way to develop a following is on local talk radio or tabloid/raunchy talk TV shows.

Step 4: It's all about you.
You should have your own TV and/or radio show, with your name as top billing.
Remember the show is all about you, your thoughts, your opinions, your ego. If it's not, you either need to take it somewhere that understands your importance, or else you're not cut out for the job.

Step 5: Preach the gospel.
Remember, your thoughts, opinion, and ego are more important than anyone else's. Spread it over the airwaves. If people disagree, they are wrong, hate America, hate our troops, hate our children, and kick puppies.

Step 6: Get your ego stroked.
You have two methods of doing this.

6a: Bring on guests and callers that agree with everything you say and think you're a Great American.
Guests, especially the bigger their egos, boost your ego to its climax. If you bring on pre-screened and vetted callers, go through them as quick as possible without really paying attention. The more you get on, the more you can show people agree with your ideas, thoughts, and ego.

6b. Bring on guests and callers that disagree with everything you say, or at least the subject at hand. Regardless of how often they agree with you, they should be treated as if they always disagree. After all, the subject at hand is the most important one, because you chose it; therefore, if they disagree with you on it, they must completely disagree with you.

Be sure to practice safe ego stroking when using this method, though, it can be unsafe. Some tips:

> Authors on book tours are usually suffering from jet-lag and are thus too nauseous to put up much of a fight.
> Yell. It shows confidence.
> If a point gets raised, or a guest won't let you interrupt, cut their mike. Use this time to mischaracterize everything they have said. For more orgasmic fun, put them back on and force them to defend your mischaracterization. If they don't, point out that they don't agree with what they just said, and thus don't know what they think.
>Make stuff up. Your guest doesn't have fact-checkers at his disposal to prove you wrong.
>WARNING! Under no circumstances should you debate another partisan pundit hack! By doing so, the above strategies no longer apply, due to ego overload. Carbon dioxide emissions and ego-swelling may reach dangerous levels!

7. Profit. Write a book, and by that I mean have a team of ghostwriters go through recent episodes of your show and encapsulate your rants into chapters. So what if they've already heard it? Your followers will lap it up. Want even more money? Write a novel, with a thinly veiled you as main character/hero. To keep readers interested and boost sales, be sure to graphically include acts that are "destroying America's morality." Remember, it's okay for your fictional characters to engage in these acts, because you, the author, are pro-morality.

At 7/23/07 01:43 AM, tony4moroney wrote: Vote on the issues and pick your candidate bitches!

http://www.dehp.net/candidate

Note: Issues listed underneath candidates means you disagreed with them on that issue.

Paul 35
Embryonic Stem Cells, Guns - Background Checks, Net Neutrality

Kucinich 33
ANWR Drilling, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Universal Healthcare

Biden 23
Death Penalty, ANWR Drilling, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals

Obama 23
ANWR Drilling, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Universal Healthcare

Gravel 18
Kyoto, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Border Fence, Universal Healthcare

Cox -6
Huckabee -10
Giuliani -10
Tancredo -16
Hunter -20
Romney -23

You should make this into a new topic. We've had one for the political compass, I think this would be a good basis for one, too.

If we had some safe way of disposing, reusing, or storing the waste, then it would be a great solution. Move the reactors underground, surrounded by a large, impermeable blast shell, which would limit, if not prevent, any air contamination or fallout from a potential accident.

I nominate anyone who looks at politics with a strict "if not Democrat, then Republican" viewpoint. There's more gray on any issue than black and white, those that are incapable of seeing the gray are unnecessary.

At 7/22/07 07:05 PM, Proteas wrote: So... I guess the catchy anti-extinction movement slogan would be something along the lines of "For every kid you don't have, I'm going to have three?"

Either that, or 'What Extinction Movement? Sorry, I can't hear you over all the humping!"

Those that don't breed will be taken over by those who breed like rabbits, who will then reproduce more than the people they took over. It's already happening in Old Europe, and it's starting to happen in the U.S. with the influx of immigrants.

It's simple osmosis.

Moreover, it's unnatural. As long as there are people, there are going to be horny people.