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At 10/23/08 05:12 PM, PrinceFlea wrote: One thing makes me a bit confused why do you think your skills are bad they have a nice sence of free flowing lines.

Im never satisfied with my own work. I want it to be high class. Besides who has ever said "Hammi, your work is amazing, i admire your skills"? No one right? Thats why i think im shit and im taking it higher. But i can see that you like my style :) Thankssssss.

How long are you going to take a break?

Probably a week or so. Im not sure... But i will drop by occasionally ;)

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At 10/23/08 04:09 PM, Hellknight1000 wrote: Wow, so many things went wrong in this situation but it's sure is great to see it getting resolved. :D

Im amazed youve been up to date so far with this rather tiring conflict lmao

So, Hammi! What's on the ol' agenda for you now? ;)

Right now, im very tired from the conflicts. I feel like just floating off somewhere and get my mind off things for a while. Ive promised pics to PrinceFlea + some other peeps and friends that i had promised to months ago back at DA. But i gotta put it all on hold, again.

I need to gather myself. And trash my shit skills. Might take a while.

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At 10/22/08 08:59 PM, ScorpianX0 wrote: X( ..... I still fill like a bastard

I guess we've both learned our lesson then ;)

*trumpet sounds * now entering, new found confidence..

That's great news :D

Heh yeah. All the fighting and the talking has paid off lmao

how would you like your Renamon?

Normal?
Bloody?
Mild Pin-up?
Hot Pin-up?
SuPeR SpIcY PiN-uP?
well-done?
......................... to go? XD

Lmfao. Surprise me :D

fine * Activate Super Emotional Mode *

Hammi.... YOU"RE MY BEST FRIEND EVER... indeed XD

Now thats more like it.

Hell yeah.....jeez...

But.... I found out that getting 20 headshots on Unreal Tournament 3 helps XD

Its been a long time since ive played any of the UT games. T'was fun back then...

D:

Awwwwwww....

Lets just keep on drinking.

At 10/22/08 06:22 PM, ScorpianX0 wrote:

fine..... but you must read above^^^

Im ordering a surprise parcel please. BOY I WONDER WHAT ITLL BE.

At 10/22/08 09:47 PM, redenvy wrote: Holy Jesus banana squash, it was like a blitzkrige in here. It looked like a full frontal assult then it went to peshes. I am glad everything was worked out, all of it. I am sorry for instigating something that was never really meant to explode, that was my fault for a poorly written comment. I should have reread what I wrote, because I never intended to fire up you Hammi. I know I sent you the PM, but I am sorry for the other people like Scorpian who got fueled by my comment. I hope all the troubles have now been fully addressed and everyone can move on.

You dont have to worry about it anymore redenvy, i shouldve tolerated it. Im supposed to be open to all opinions. It just happened to be on the wrong time when i was leaving with bitterness. I know you just wanted to help me, and i appreciate your honesty. And you were right, ive been aggressive lately which was due to a lot of feelings tearing me all up at the same time. I was also wrong about you. And yes, we'll move on... finally. :)

At 10/23/08 05:37 AM, Chymo wrote: Ok here we go,

I just realized something...

That doesn't mean I can't at least try to help, tough love's the expression. It sometime's helps in these situations.

Yeah... thanks but, your "tough love" made you sound very accusing against me. I thought you were trying to dirty up everything ive stood for in the past years. Thats why i got annoyed by your post.

Please explain the entire story, I'd like to make things a bit better, the whole situation isn't exactly nice, and I don't like seeing people down in the dumps.

Theres no need for anymore, everything has pretty much gotten back to normal now. Also, im too tired to explain the whole goddamn thing lmao. Ive bee spending quite much time answering these posts that never seem to end anywhere. But, i gotta say... thanks for trying to help me. I just didnt get what you were trying to achieve with your post, but now i know. Thanks :)

I can assure you I haven't just met you, I've seen you knocking around the threads, I've chit chatted before. Granted I don't know you as well as other users, but what's that got to do with the price of cheese?

Well i thought you werent completely aware of what kind of a shitty situation i was stuck in, which had also caused problems for Scorp. So i was sort of worried that you would just make a quick assumption of the whole thing, which would cause even more misunderstandings.

I didn't think you'd broken down over simple matters. I had an inkling that it wasn't all as simple as it seemed on the surface. I'm not stupid you know.

Oh well... good to know. The last thing i want is people talking out of their asses.

Once again, that's irrelevant. Maybe I don't know the whole story or how it all started, but I can still try to help.

You could help, but it seemed more like you were being negative while talking about who had the whole blame of the conflicts which kept on going off like a chain reaction. It wasnt easy to tell so im sorry :\

I never said suppress your emotions. I was trying to help put things into context.

Sigh i guess so... well, the whole thing was quite complicated anyway. Luckily we still made it.

At 10/7/08 05:34 PM, Hammi wrote:

I should become emo and just kill myself.

Oh, that one. Well it was rather a sarcastic remark, it wasnt supposed to be taken seriously. Well i dont blame you, it was hard to tell anyway at that point. Sorry i called you ignorant, you couldnt have known.

Although it was a sarcastic response to Fatchaos when he joked about my comment regarding a pic (which was in fact the very reason that these conflicts were triggered in the first place... no not Fatchaos, i mean the pic because it sucked shit.). I was bitter before, but this pic got me right off.

I didn't think that you are the biggest dickhead around, that didn't even come into play. I just thought that your attitude wasn't gonna help anything. It's good that you've been fixing things between you.

Thanks man. Its just that people have been coming over here now recently, sympathizing a lot with Scorp as if he was a poor little puppy while me being a big bad wolf. Although i clearly admit that it was me who spread the negativity in the first place, thus starting a conflict and pressuring Scorp + some others. But i took everything back and we came along again... that was until Scorp exploded this time. But still people here act like they favor him the most no matter what, that they wanna fuck ME over instead. And thats dumb because, it really shows how one sided this forum can be while they trample over my every attempt at making it up again. And it really hurts. Thats why i still think that this forum is gay. But now with my buds around... i will really rape this forum.

I know grown men can break down, I've witnessed it first hand. Since when has age dictated personal experience?

Well you sounded like you had never seen a man shedding tears lmao. Sorry about that.

:Yeah I may be 16, but that's got nothing to do with what I know, and what I've learned in life so far. The biggy is that life is too short. Sure it can get you down, chances are everybody at some point goes through similar shit to what your going through. But you gotta work through it, not let it become a weight on your shoulders.

Now this made a lot more sense. Thank you. Those are very vital points right there :)

I never said that you weren't apologizing, I said that you had times of being obnoxious. Which is right. There were times where you completely ignored what they were saying.

Yeah thats very true. All the shit that made me sensitive over time had me walking around like a zombie, ready to bite someones head off. Including you. Sorry, i thought you were just another negative nancy :\

Once again you bring the whole "you don't know the entire story" thing. Sure it helps, but once again, it doesn't mean I can't try and help. I might of come off like I was having ago at you, but really I wasn't. I was approaching the situation from a different angle, trying to put things into perspective. When was I preaching over spilled milk? Must be a hell of a lot of milk, 'coz it seems to get YOU down. And I wasn't trying to make you feel shittier at all. It never once entered my head, I was trying to help you get your act together. It might of seemed like I was trying to knock you down, but really I wasn't.

And i fully understand that now. Sorry i completely depicted you as ignorant, it was rather far fetched. I know you were trying to help me end this situation and i appreciate it, but sometimes when a third party tries to put things into context, it could cause even more confusion and misunderstandings. I also didnt mean to brawl with you. And im sorry if i possibly ruined your day. I just need to gather myself atm. I hope we've come to an agreement now. :)

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Damn it Flea i wanna make you something... BUT IM ALWAYS OUT OF TIME.

FUCK.

I hope you can bear with it. It will come.

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Come on Fatchaoz... only 2 months left. You will be there soon. I bet its driven you insane for a year now. Even if the road is hard, never give up. Pfffffffffff now im being cliche. Sozz.

Oh yeah, thats an interesting piece right there. Itll look good in colors indeed.

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At 10/22/08 06:17 PM, ScorpianX0 wrote: Yes... I know..... It's not expected of me to be this way.... but I have a smal history ( about 3 now ) of outbursts... and sadly, It's always happens to friends.... or family

Good luck in easing it all out.

no...... you didn't cause this at all....... I've been neglecting to sort things out in my life and I got overburdened.....

Ok.

I accept that :)

errrrrrr........... rage.... sorry

errrr yeah... ok.

well...... yes... that was one thing that bothered me.... but I overreacted...... and I'm over it ...

Good cause im here to stay now. My spirit has been renewed.

lol... I wouldn't blame your-self when I've done this before on many accounts........

Ok sure.

it wasn't only you..... on DA a good friend of mine who you might know, talked about how she felt some of her friends were....... fake......as you said........

again.. I felt I was in the cross-hairs.... later on to find out.... I was a close of hers :)

Alright then. At least it worked out in the end.

I'm already recovering........

I'm staying after school to try to catch up on my paintings...

I took mid-terms today, and I have to say, I felt pretty good about them :)

and I think due to mid-terms, my grades might bump up as well :)

Good for you! Just take it easy with the art, and do your studies. You can always come back to the requests later. Im telling you this so that you wont fuck up on school, and dishonor your mother.

errr... sad to say this...... but I kinda balled up the pic ( Not because of you or anyother influence, it just wasn't looking too good )

why you sadhjkgasfklfsa

ok fine, take your time.

but.... I'm quite over it.... you had to leave.... because you had problems of your own..

understandable :)

Yeah but i didnt feel the same again...

*sigh*.........I really wouldn't kill myself ( I sadly wouldn't have it in me to do so, )....... but I sure did feel like shit

Yeah well... youre probably over it now. Youre not so emotional anymore.

more times for me than you think........ this hasn't been my first time hanging my head low because of an out-burst.

I've always tried to be the one to resolve conflicts........in this case.. I couldn't even prevent my own...

I'm quite sorry :(

I forgive you :)

I'm very thankful for your forgiveness.... and understanding

I'll keep that all in mind...... no doubts

Best buds....... Indeed ;)

What, no feelings here? I CANT HEAR YOU.

I'm quite glad it didn't..... that was one of my main worries.....

and I'm also proud you resolved it in the way you did.... even if you chose not to forgive me

It took me a lot of patience and self control before i did it. But i knew it was for the best.

well....... i known it for awhile..... it's just now I'm experiencing it.

Feels rotten huh.

Wide arms?..... is this a hug?..... errr.... I'll make an exception this time, thank you

Sorry, I'm not big on hugs ...I'm more of a firm handshake kinda person XD

ASLKGFASJKHBFASKL

fine you wont get neither of them now.

At 10/22/08 06:22 PM, ScorpianX0 wrote: Whoops..... forgot to add...

I did start a new pic for ya.... The line-art needs alittle working... but I should have it done soon

You better do it before i hunt you down. aaaaaaaaaaa

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At 10/22/08 05:11 PM, PrinceFlea wrote: Yeah but what would the genre be exactly?

Drama... at its best. Or thriller because we manage to make it up again at the end. :)

I hope Scorp is feeling alright again. Ive mustve fueled his frustration, and now hes sad for letting it out on me. I mustve given him a one big headache from the start. This shit ends right here.

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At 10/22/08 05:00 PM, PrinceFlea wrote: Hey so much freaking emotion that i've never seen go on like for this long. It's really enough to make a published novel out of.

Lmfao

YOU SHOULD WRITE IT.

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At 10/21/08 08:47 PM, Hellknight1000 wrote: Hammi, I really don't know what you feel undergoing everything that made you stressed, but all I can say is don't let it be the end of you. Life can be a bitch when you really don't want it to.

Yeah youre right... i will try maintaining my business

By the looks of things, it was just a HUGE misunderstanding and should just be pretended that it never happened.

Yeah, again. We need to put this one behind us as well :\

Well, this isn't my business and I hope my post doesn't fuck things up. I just thought this was really scary how this was developing for a while. I really hope everything goes well, and let's all hope that it never happens again.

Nah your post doesnt fuck up anything. Youre just showing your concern and wishing us good luck in solving our problems. And i appreciate that a lot :)

And Hammi, I hope to see some more art from you; keep this thread alive, and never give up.

Peace.

I will... I WILL :D Thanks!

At 10/21/08 11:35 PM, Nintechno wrote: lol, so much emotion! What the hell!?!? Artists are like, 100000 times more sensitive than anyone else LOL :D

Lmao

yeah its our job as artists to showcase emotions on a piece of paper

thats why we're one with it ;D

Good on ya guys for trying to make up!

Thanks!

At 10/22/08 11:02 AM, Chymo wrote: Wow. Depressing stuff. I just spent half an hour reading that shit, and to be quite honest (I'm gonna say it, and I'm not gonna appologize for it), Scorpian was right. You were being ignorant. You know, plenty of people experience worse shit than you, everyday, myself including (I'm not trying to make this about me, I'm merely making a point). Every artist thinks their work is crap, even the greats. That's the whole fucking point. If you thought your work was good enough, you'd stop trying. In your case you have, taking the easy way out. When you were saying you never get feedback, or comments, what the hell. 14 pages? That's quite a lot isn't it? When you were talking about being an emo, and killing yourself, what for? Over art? Over a bit of tree, and an graphite stick? You know what, your better than a lot of people on NG, but you spoil that with your attitude. How old are you? 21? Your acting like a spoilt little child. Grow up Hammi. Life's hard, life's shit, but moaning aint gonna help. Your wasting your life. It's not about Scorpian or Fatchaos, it's about you. Your pissing in the wind. They try to help, but you shrug them off. Stop being obnoxious. Think about it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And this ladies and gents, is another perfect example of an ignorant post. Please avoid following this trend. Allow me to explain:

- he doesnt have the slightest clue of whats been goin on inside

- he intervenes and takes a side instead of being open for both sides to help getting the situation better

- he just met me and already jumping to conclusions

- he clearly hasnt dug deeper to find the cause of this conflict

- he thinks that ive broken down over simple matters when all of this goes way deeper

- hes only stirring up more negativity by taking everything out of context

now, to answer him:

Scorpian was right. You were being ignorant.

We both were. You werent even here when it all started, so how the hell can you even tell what exactly happened? ;|

You know, plenty of people experience worse shit than you

No shit i already know. I dont live inside of a closet you know. So you expect me to suppress my emotions? Wow great plan.

If you thought your work was good enough, you'd stop trying. In your case you have, taking the easy way out

What? That made no sense at all. I strive to improve my work and to get better, NOT SO I CAN SLACK AROUND. What kind of an advice is that? If i thought my work was already good few years back, i would still be stuck in the same shit pit like before. That way you will never improve. I gave up because i got too tired and i felt that i wasnt getting anywhere. Dont you think ive had doubts before? Jesus.

When you were saying you never get feedback, or comments, what the hell. 14 pages? That's quite a lot isn't it?

I never said that i was completely missing feedbacks. I never said that. I suggest you read up the whole story instead of sticking your head up in the clouds. That way you wouldve known that i already appreciate ALL the feedbacks.

When you were talking about being an emo, and killing yourself, what for? Over art? Over a bit of tree, and an graphite stick?

Hold on now... when the fuck did i ever mention about killing myself? Lmao you truly are ignorant. You dont even know half of everything thats been goin on here and... wow.

You know what, your better than a lot of people on NG, but you spoil that with your attitude.

What am i, a robot that can be programmed? You dont even know how much stress ive gone through. All you ever know is that me and scorp said this and that at this point, and that was it. Now you look at me as if ive always been the biggest dickhead around, when you dont even know that me and scorp have spent quite some time getting everything fixed in between us.

How old are you? 21? Your acting like a spoilt little child. Grow up Hammi. Life's hard, life's shit, but moaning aint gonna help. Your wasting your life.

Even grown men can break down to nothing. So youre saying that grown people cant become emotional wrecks? Youre 16 and you got a lot to learn. Stress can kill a person from inside if enough amount is added, especially if you cant express it. Dont try to lecture me about life, i already know how life is. Lmfao.

It's not about Scorpian or Fatchaos, it's about you. Your pissing in the wind. They try to help, but you shrug them off. Stop being obnoxious. Think about it.

Again you keep on talking out in blue. You havent even noticed yet that ive been apologizing and regretting a lot. Just shut up.

So what do we got here? I mean, what the hell are you even doing here intervening when you dont even have full information backed up? Or are you just here to make me feel even more shittier than ive already been? To be honest with you, you havent been quite much to help here. Instead, youre contradicting yourself by calling me ignorant while youre here preaching over spilled milk. You have no business acting like an attorney here. I suggest you step the heck off dude and never get in between me and Scorp ever again in the near future unless youve actually had figured it all out.

Thank you!

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Im sorry for multiple posts, but... too many characters.

At 10/21/08 07:20 PM, ScorpianX0 wrote: Oh my.......god........

I can't believe I posted this... D':

Kill me now.......please do........

out of all the people I could've blown my mind in rage......... it had to be this one.......

I AM SUCH A FUCK-UP

Well... it happened. Cant rewind it now. The important thing now is that everything pieces together in the end creating the harmony that we need. I really hope we can heal the wounds and become stronger so this never happens again. I know what you mean about being a fuck up, ive felt the same too :\

Man....... I'm sorry too.....

The fact of being slightly reminded of the conflict enraged me.....

It was quite unexpected from you but... i guess this happens from time to time. I couldve been triggered here because, well you already know, im not gonna dwell on it anymore. :(

I know you have Hammi..... I know... :( ( last sentence )

And i appreciate that you know. Honest. :(

I shouldn't have dwelled on the past...... but, the topic reached light again.....and it enraged me

I thought there for a while that you took redenvys side because she "made more sense" or something (just a past thought redenvy, no offense), creating yet another "good vs evil" block against me being centered as the core of these problems. I later figured out it might had something to do with you being stressed lately... like i always am most of the time. But nonetheless, my shitstorm was no doubt the cause of these conflicts. Again i take the blame here because ive infected you with such a disease that i had kept inside me for a long time. Goddamn... :(

................ I know.... :(

its alright... :)

A greedy fuck?

oh man..... someone shoot me....... I feel like I kicked a sick puppy

I gotta say i was a bit thrown off from that sentence. :\ Almost seemed as if this was the final blow on our friendship.

* This is uncalled for text posted by me *

And that too.

GOD BLESS IT .......... NO......... ARGH......

I'm terribly sorry........ argh... I just felt that me and fatchaos weren't getting any appreciation even through all the morale and backing up we gave you....... It was a mis-understanding

Its not all your fault. Like, i took it as far as leaving art, which would also mean leaving you guys behind blowing everything youve done for me up in smoke. That was rather unthoughtful of me, and kind of selfish because i wasted your time without knowing it. I realized this days after i left and i started missing you guys. I made a mistake.

ok..........I'm really pissed at myself now..........

Now I feel like the shit-head.........

god.... I didn't really mean any of this........ It's JUST THIS DAMN TOPIC KEEPS GETTING RE-SPWANED......and it enrages me .......and I CAN'T CONTROL MYSELF....

I understand... theres nothing more you can do about. I was the one who brought this curse up on you ever since you started coming up beside me.

During the actual conflict, I Stowed in all my anger to find the problem......... the anger.....

Fake Friend.......

It..... was that I was reminded of all the stuff I was previously accused of........... and every time I hear about that damn fight....... it gets me pissed again.....

:(

Im sorry for the frustration ive caused you. I hugely regret making that fake friends thing while i was trying to figure out who was really having my back. Even more i regret is that i was being subliminal about you not helping me. Yes you guessed it right, frustration. Man ive been stupid.

NO MORE TALK ABOUT THE FIGHT...........NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed. :( Lock it up.

........... I dont hate you Hammi...... I'm just alittle pissed about a couple of things... and sadly, I blew it all off in here........the worse place possible.

My 360 is dead ( FUCK YOU MICROSOFT )

my dog is about to die. :(
I couldn't even make a Drawing for my own damn contest...
I'm not getting B's like I promised my mother at school
I'm falling behind in classes....

not to mention that I've got Mid-terms coming up
I own at least 10 requests.......

Man im sorry to hear all this. It was rather unfortunate that everything didnt go exactly as planned. I feel you. It is hard i know. Its like chemistry, add the wrong formulas on the wrong day and everything will blow right up on your face leaving you fucked up and dirt broken. I wish you the best of luck of pulling everything together.

and.... I made you a picture...... but when I was finished..... you left :(

I felt.....unappreciated

Im sorry. Again this was my fault because all i ever thought of was that i wasnt fit for art after all, and i decided to leave things that wasnt meant for me. Not knowing that you already had busted your ass to finish a pic for me. I have no idea how to express my appreciation to you for doing this for me. Im still ashamed of myself.

I shut-up, go shoot some targets...........relieve myself of stress, and try not to stab myself foring being a complete shit-head............

simply put...... I was stressted......but that's really no excuse at all

I don't know why.....but it really.....sigh...........I feel like I want to die.

Dont think like that... im not mad at you im still here right :)

I regret every word........ for it was blind rage from an outside source that built up inside of me.

Ive had this problem too, and i end up being bitter. Not rude, but more like being disappointed over myself.

What you did in the past was completely forgivable........ what I did right here.... was iggnorant....Hateful... and un-forgivable........

Can i be honest? When you first went all out on me, i lost heart there for a moment before i got mad. Because i had thought that we already had squashed our conflict. But then, i remembered... that us two have felt this conflict on our own bodies before. First it was me, then it happened to you too. All the stress and the frustration had us both going crazy. If this negativity would keep on going, who knows how lower we would fall. Instead of retaliating, i wanted to show you instead that i understand you, just like you did with me when i was... less saner back there. I understand that you got unappreciated, because ive been this same way A LOT of times. But you gotta know, that i will always admire your efforts. Thats why i forgive you Scorp :) Best buds indeed.

............ I really don't know what to say...... I have no explanation..... I was being a hateful bitch, stressed by things I should've just blown off.

I know Scorp, its not easy. Thats what happens when you try to balance thousands of things on your shoulders. Too much weight. What you said was uncalled for yes, but what else could you do about it? Thats why i understand your frustration instead of taking it personally. Otherwise i couldve started a war with you. Thank god i didnt. :\

I'm really sorry.......to everyone......and especially Hammi

all this time..... I always tried to be the nice guy..... soaking up hateful comments from random NG memebers.... building inside.... stress from school..... myself.... falling behind.

Now you know what ive had to put up with all the time :|

I'm ....... GAH.... words cannot truely express how horrible I feel.......

Please, dont gruel anymore about it. I accept you with my wide arms. Welcome back buddy :'D

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At 10/21/08 07:15 PM, PieLover61 wrote: Wow guys...
I'm not gunna get involved but I have to say, I don't know anything about this fall out and I sure as hell haven't read everything but you really should stop. Hammi and Scorp used to be best buddies and now they're insulting eachother? Hm... I'm a bit worried you guys, I think you should really sort this out.

We're on it now.

Don't flame me or involve me now please, I'm just saying...

Oh come on. We have no reason to flame you, we know youre just worried. Only stupid and annoying comments would possibly trigger heat because they dont help. Also posters who dont really care about the situation but instead trying to be smartasses about it get their balls whipped. By me. Because i can.

Anyways thank you PieLover, it really shows that you care :)

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At 10/21/08 06:17 PM, duhidiot wrote: whoa, whoa, whoa! what is goin on here?? lets see some art, not fights dudes!
You are all good, i've seen art from all of the three of you. stop friggin' fighting!
Keep that in the PM's, k?

I didnt wanted a fight here either, but i was forced to answer for myself. And obviously i made scorpian more frustrated than he already was while i was trying to clear up some few things with redenvy while getting it all out of my system. And he ended up rushing me and outcursing me instead. Im trying to get a clearer picture and figure out right now what i just did to piss him off so ive sent him a PM, even though i strongly resent how he just acted against me. I could be a senseless dick right now and tell him to fuck off to another planet for all i care. But fuck it. Everyone can get frustrated, thats how it was with me. Right now i cant even tell if he has become my enemy or if he needs to talk it out about it. I think it got something to do about me not appreciating him and Fatchaos anymore or something, which is quite the opposite cause i took him in as a dependable friend and i thought i could rely on him as a friend who would be there to help me up regarding art or moral support (which he did). Or, he just got sick of all the talk about my frustration so he snapped, just like i did. Except that i never called my friends names like he did here. I thought me and scorpian had solved our conflict a while ago, that was until he brought it up again. Why? Again it seems to be about friends and appreciation and how i treated him and Fatchaos with negativity during my shitstorm... i think. At least i was the one who ultimately got on my knees in front of him telling him that i was awfully sorry for everything because he had no blame whatsoever for any of what i did and said.

Don't worry, be happy, k?
You guys should listen to that song now.

I dunno, maybe i actually should. Listening to Pendulum for weeks has gotten me drugged and intense.

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At 10/21/08 04:32 PM, StephBot wrote: Well I'm back, I have my Tablet now. Wen tand bought it today.

This is a fast sketch I did with it.

I can't wait to get the hang of drawing on this thing so I can make some real art.

I hate it when i rush my sketches. It gets me down. Also, good thing youre warming up already. It took a while for me too to get used to my tablet. I bet itll look a ton better if you spend some more extra time on your pic.

Btw, your art generally got this nice and simple style. And good colors too. As for the ms paint pics, they mustve taken a lot of patience to draw. Kudos. Keep it up.

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At 10/20/08 12:27 PM, Vousielle wrote: Pox, I request that you continue to draw whatever the hell you want.

I concur

lmao

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At 10/21/08 06:01 PM, VampireMaric wrote: Here's a shitty logo!

Even though this has probably been taken with a camera of some sort, its rather the style im lookin at. Id say it looks nifty. Splatter style. I like that. You should add some more volume/contrast into the blood, and make it bigger. Lookin good so far.

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At 10/21/08 05:55 PM, VampireMaric wrote:

At 10/21/08 05:45 PM, Hammi wrote: No, fuck. I meant that her LEFT LEG isnt consistent with her RIGHT LEG.

Goddamn, i need to unplug my headphones for a short break here.

HA! funny. Yeah her leg's a little a fucked up, I have an issue with legs, and yeah, I'll have stuff here later!

Dont worry about it, you just gotta fix her left thigh thats all. I do notice though that her clothing style is some what special, but still just add some more meat into her thigh (not too much otherwise the perspective might get fucked) and itll straighten out i believe. This piece is nonetheless very good, i wonder what else you got up your sleeves. Keep it up!

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At 3/27/08 12:10 AM, ZekeySpaceyLizard wrote:

At 3/27/08 12:07 AM, s1nt3ch wrote: art rage http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.htm l affordable digital painting only 25 bucks

Art Rage and Alias Sketchbook Pro are pretty damned good software.

I concur with zekey, though i prefer using alias sketchbook pro instead since it fits my use.

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No, fuck. I meant that her LEFT LEG isnt consistent with her RIGHT LEG.

Goddamn, i need to unplug my headphones for a short break here.

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At 10/21/08 05:38 PM, VampireMaric wrote: A picture of one of my favorite game characters, Joanna Dark. This is a render of the 64 version, as I don't like the 360 version of her. I think her old outfit, hair, and accent are much sexier. This took somewhere between an hour and 90 minutes. Critique if you can! (By the way I know the name's out of frame, just bear with it, I had to take a photo of it.)

I knew there was something familiar with her :P

I like your shading here. Also a quite adorable style. However her right leg seems a lil off, its not consistent with her left leg. Or maybe my perspective is failing here.

Nevertheless this is slick stuff. Got more? :)

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At 10/21/08 02:56 PM, Nintechno wrote: I came straight from the Audio Forum. I am a regular techno uploader (I even have top 5 of the week right now lol). I occasionally come by and check out the Art Forums though.

Interesting. I also used to do audio as well, but i lost interest in expanding my mixing skills. Sorry... maybe one day... :P

Saw your thread, saw all the hate goin' on. Not Nice, tried to fix :D

You pretty much jump started my mood with that positive thing goin on, it made me feel good for some reason. Thank you :)

Anyways, switch your aura to light or fab, it secretly helps when trying to be in a happy mood ;D

Fixed!

Good Luck with your art!

Thank you! I will try :D

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At 10/21/08 03:19 PM, PrinceFlea wrote: My loosely based representation of hammi's look which took me a moment to remember to look like.

GOOD GOD PRINCEFLEA. :D

I cant believe you did my style AGAIN.

I think its awesome that you imitated some of my recent ones. Delicious. I also think that the female body came out a lot better than i did on mine.

I will now owe you double. No, make that TRIPLE. I will spend my days now to owe you back the honors you deserve. A promise is a promise. Its on once again!

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And now, to respond to my new viewers (!):

At 10/20/08 11:09 PM, MegaMelmo wrote: Yes! Yes! Yes! Another artist who uses hatching all the time! Thank you. I remember when I saw your sig (The current one with the profile of the guy) I wanted to go look for more of your art. Your art is so unique.

:D

Thank you! Hatching is one of those techniques ive tried specializing myself on. Are you really that happy just to see some random guy like me using cross hatching? Lmao this has made me excited as well. Youre thanking me? I should rather thank YOU. Wowee, im in good mood now.

At 10/20/08 11:14 PM, Nintechno wrote: Totally man! Its really nice!

Wow. I have no words right now. All i can say is, thank you :D

Dont worry about it dude, just draw for the love of drawing! Dont worry about anatomy if ya dont want to, come back to it later lol. Just make sure your having fun when you draw, do NOT do art to impress others, if your happy with it = Sweetness!

Great! Youre right. Although i need a ton more improvements in the anatomy field... its not good enough for me. And proportions too. I thought i had it figured out but, i guess i was wrong. Flaws be gone! I will try being more happy (as long as there still are reasons to)... being bitter about what i cant do is tearing me down. Gets me sad. But thanks, i will try enjoying it more... one step at a time :)

Btw, where the hell did you guys come from lmao

suddenly out of the blue, im shocked but glad

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At 10/21/08 12:45 PM, Fatchaos wrote: And I dont excatly recall him cursing us, or at least me :F

But i admit that i was bitter at you for a while because i thought you literally laughed at me, until you made me a dedication... and it all cleared up for me since then because i took everything far fetched while i was puffing up on everybody. Ive been stupid. Sorry Fatchaos, i forever am :'(

You know, with all his flaws, Hammi is a original guy with both art & personality, thats excatly why I like him, he's not one of those blody "yes yes good good" guys. He is like a nice, black splash on a blank paper. Sure, not tidy, but if it wasn't there, it would just be a boring blank paper (poor example), thats what makes it something else, something more.

Stop it, youre making me cry aaaaaaaaaaa

But, I cant advice you on what to do, Hammi, I am not suited for that...

I have a lot to think about... let me just... clear it up... maybe then... nevertheless youve been a true friend so far. Ive been acting like Metabee from Medabots. hnghhhhhhhhhh

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At 10/21/08 06:47 AM, ScorpianX0 wrote: you constantly cursed me and Fatchaos out on a daily basis after you became pissed off just because you were having problems

that's abusement

Ive never cursed you out, i was bashing myself while trying to figure out if i could rely on anyone, and i admit i was being negative about it and I didnt mean it... and im sorry :(

Shut up now hammi....... right now, you're the most ignorant person I've ever met

scorpian, i really have put most of my time appreciating peoples comments and crits, but up on this day ive grown to be a lunatic. An ego. Something i never wanted to be. AND ITS TRUE, ive always been supportive to people who have cared about my work. Including you.

....... -_-.........

sure you wouldn't

sigh, its true. The reason why ive been PMing you parts of my story is because i wanted you to understand how i feel. Because i trust you. But now youre doubting on me... my shitstorm has backfired on me.

you act like this is something you should get paid for..... It's the Art forum......the crappy, NG art forum

a place i used to love, until i felt unappreciated...

plus Hammi, You're strechting the truth..... YOU GET FEEDBACK ALL THE TIME YOU GREEDY FUCK, LOOK AT YOUR-SELF NOW

Ever since you and fatchaos entered my thread, yes. I started coming back again because of you guys. I guess im too much of a douchebag now to deserve any... especially from you... i guess you wouldnt cared less about me now... i understand

ain't that the truth....... I felt the Same god damn way, redenvy

:(

im sorry, i really am. The frustration got the best of me in the end.

fuck you Hammi............... me and Fatchaos stood beside you, and now you're just acting like we never appreciated you.......

Thats crying out loudly not true. You have completely misunderstood me. I was stating that PrinceFlea was the one who was there for me from the start. I didnt say that you and fatchaos have never done anything to help me. Ive honored everything you guys have done for me. I mean it. I always put friends really high and i always get back to them when im not busy. My stay here has been more enjoyable because of you and fatchaos. Otherwise i wouldnt had cared less.

go to hell......... you ignorant fool

... i guess... we're not friends anymore? I understand why youre angry with me now. Ive fucked up... i understand if you disgust my presence now, because ive become a creep. Im sorry for everything, and you already know that, but... it cant be helped anymore.

because you never give anything a chance or time

Yes, i should give it time but i feel like im way behind schedule considering my age. I should try nevertheless...

dumbass, she's saying that when you do have flaws, you should take them into consideration next time you draw, so you hopefully will learn from your mistakes.

... i always do take them into consideration, but im also determined at getting rid of them asap because i dont like them. dumbass...?

A man can sit in a cloud of mosquitoes........ if he chooses to.....

but why, when he could just as easily try to out-run them.........

Mosquitoes........Mistakes

Running............practice

do you see my metaphor?

Yes i do... ive just collapsed for a while. While the flaws are sucking out all my blood until im driven insane. But i know, i shouldnt be bothered by them.

I understand if you dont like me anymore... I regret everything myself. Ive never wanted to cause harm on anyone. Thats why i told you to stay clear off because i was afraid i would hurt you... and i was hoping it would be over soon. You already know how much i blame myself for causing the recent negative events which keep on going like a domino game. Thats why ive been apologizing to those ive offended. I understand if you hate my guts now... just want to let you know, i never wanted this way. Im sorry for everything. Ive fucked up big time. I just wanted people to understand my frustration. But instead i let it get to my head and i started leaking it all over.

Also i do agree with redenvy on the points (i was gonna reply until i saw scorpians reply). However ive grown selfishly envious which ive been stating all the time. I was never selfish before, but... at the time when i started feeling unappreciated, i started demanding. If people really liked my work, i wanted them to post and let me know. And i wouldnt blast their heads off no, i would only measure my work from the comments. I just reacted on your opinion about abusing friends cause, i would never want to harass them. And IF i ever did, i would apologize to them right away. I wanted my work to be talked about, especially after the amount of time ive spent being here. But now i understand why it doesnt deserve to be, because i have myself become a pushover. And now everybody here probably hate me because i didnt stop for a minute to see how much frustration i was giving them instead. I always try to understand other people and i was kind of expecting the same for me. I just wanted to be understood, and obviously you redenvy, really do. Now i know it. Thank you.

If nobody wants me around here anymore, then i perfectly understand. Thats why im ashamed of myself because i recently turned into a spiteful negative force. I wont pain you anymore and i respect your opinions because, i always try to be humble. Been like this since from the start. Reason for the negativity thats been goin on was because i bust loose a screw recently. And i shouldve never taken it out on neither of you guys. But its all unforgivable now, so... whats next?

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At 10/20/08 10:40 PM, Nintechno wrote: That's too bad, you've got a really nice cartoony/realistic style going there, I like it!

Thanks! Wow um

so you really like it?

I still got doubts you see, so... well anyways, again thanks! You made my day :)

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At 10/20/08 02:30 PM, Drakenyaze wrote: your last entry on this thread are you going to make a new one?

who said there will be a new one :|

anyways it was a good picture I liked it

thanks, its not perfect but i appreciate your feedback Drakenyaze... :)

At 10/20/08 08:09 PM, Hellknight1000 wrote: Totally awesome.

Flaws arent awesome but thank you.

There's a few things to fix, but everyone's pretty much pointed out everything I can think of.

Oh yes indeed, everything is messed up. Ill take that to my heart. hnghhhhhhhhhh

I love the mood and pose, great job.

Great job...? *blush* Thank you. I was gonna call the drawing "Frustration", but err now idk

As for you leaving, I can't stop you so I guess all I can say is don't stop drawing even if you won't be posting. I honestly believe you've got some talent.

Talent... would give me recognition, while i havent achieved a fly shit from being here to this day. Oh well... thanks for the thought. Even though ive only known you for like... some few days, i really appreciate your concern. As for art... mmmmmmmm nobody but my closest friend knows. Lets just say that he hates to see me fall because he honors my efforts. <3

Well, good luck out there.

Thank you... *smirk* Ok ok, heres a real smile... :)

At 10/20/08 08:23 PM, redenvy wrote: You have all your friends that supported you...

I only got few friends out of the whole forum.

But aside from that you shouldn't cut yourself short because someone had more amid success in gathering people. Personally, if you didn't let that get to your head and kept on trying you probably would have gained more success that you could have predicted.

Oh yeah? Miss 219 posts. You havent been where ive been.

Plus if you hadn't outwardly abused your friends

What in the flying fuck are you talking about? ABUSED MY FRIENDS? I have NEVER EVER ABUSED MY FRIENDS. FOR WHAT? Ive always been the one whos been honoring each and every one who have posted in my thread. Ive always been the humble one. Ive always been the one whos been bowing down all the time in gratitude like a japanese welcome committee. You should really watch it what you rant about before throwing your lip around like that, it really shows your ignorant side. Yeah i snapped at scorpian and fatchaos and some others during my shitstorm, but i would never purposely ABUSE THEM. WATCH YOUR MOUTH. jesus christ.

there is a possiblity people wouldn't have been timid to post replies in your thread.

you see, this is what i hate about people having misconceptions. "IF ONLY YOU DIDNT DO THIS, IF ONLY YOU DIDNT DO THAT ETC". Where have you been? This is the art forum, where fan arts and meme posts go right to the top, unless there are some really good art work floating around. Ive been bustin my ass around here for 2 years now giving feedbacks and posting art without getting recognition FOR MY WORK and without achieving jack shit, and youre telling me that i got an attitude problem? DO YOU REALLY THINK IVE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS? HAVENT I BEEN FRUSTRATED ENOUGH? DONT YOU EVER... fffff. Great, its me against the art forum now.

I, being one of those people, felt if I ever posted anything in your thread I would be cursed out and burned to a stake.

Why would i do that? You are taking me for granted. Nobody understands my situation anymore. Therefore f

I have always liked your style because it is clean and different from other people's in the thread.

Thank you, but... if my style is truly appreciated, how come its ignored or never mentioned? 2 long years... and no one but PrinceFlea has been my tru dawg. (unconditional respect mayn)

I wish you realized the amount of people that did participate in your thread and how much potential you do carry

Oh yes i do realize, that most of those people who used to have my back ARE ALL GONE NOW. They left probably because they got frustrated. And now its my turn to hit the dark tunnel as well. Potential? Theres always talk about potentials, but in the end it all looks hopeless because my "potential" never gets sprung out.

Art is one of those things you always improve, but embellish the flaws of your work.

Thats haaaaaaaaard, how can i ever like flaws. I want to annihilate them, not put them up in frames and tell people "HEY LOOK AT MY ROOM, IVE HUNG UP DRAWINGS OF DE CURVED THIGHS AND ARMS, NIFTY HUH!!!". Btw thats NOT the kind of style im aiming for. :\

It is like humans, people aren't perfect but it is the flaws in them that make them shine.

Oh? Tell me how. For me, flaws are like mosquitoes. I want them killed, they ruin my drawings. Nasty shits.

Hopefully you'll realize that you are worthy enough of posting your work- good luck.

sigh

even though i already know (duh) that the standard of the art forum is a bit low, i still find it hard to believe that i got the stuff in me. Plus, who else will turn back on me if i get too attached to the forum again? Im also embarrassed over myself. Thats why i dont really want to stay here anymore, unless i return with considerably GOOD skills. Or even MORE. I aim for really high standards. But right now, chances are very slim that i will continue...

thanks for your concern though.

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this will be my very last entry on this thread

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You know what, just fucking forget it

ive had it with this shit

im tired

i cant take it anymore

FUCK

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At 10/17/08 07:32 PM, ScorpianX0 wrote: *gasp*.... Hammi, I'm supprised at you....

you know good and well I don't give blind praise

Oh err alright :\

Positive ; )

Trust me Hammi, I've goten MANY Dedications..... many of which, were renamon as well....

but the one you gave me tops em all in my opinon

Naaaah cant be. There are so many good rena pics out there + ive seen through your favorites on DA >:)

Yeah , and you don't think I go through the same shit On DA, 24/7?

Um

Damn dirty Renamon Loving shit-heads..... They don't give a good god damn about the pic.... it's all about renamon... That's why My Shit is on the 24th, while some little shit, whos drawings are stick figures compared to mine, gets blind praise and his artwork is sitting on the front page >:(

I know, thats one of many things about DA/SA that pisses me off.

( sorry..... but this kinda action PISSES me off something fierce )

I bet, sorry to hear.

But you're right.... it's a rather annouying trend

Indeed

yay for crazy-ness :P

So youre mocking me now. kkkkkkkkkkkk

Whoa......... ( grabs shot-gun )......... don't get any ideas

Im just... HEAVILY frustrated, ever since 07. I want to attract like you guys do. When my art isnt able to do that, it means my art isnt... worth viewing. Then... what else? I just want my work to be on a "good" level, and i measure it from the response of the art forum. A lot of people here didnt even know who renamon was or they didnt give a shit about digimon, but you still managed to attract many with all that rena work in short time. I dont have what you guys have. And that... just... feh. Thats why i suck, and thats why my art is just a big pile of fffffffff

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At 10/17/08 06:17 PM, Fatchaos wrote: Bullshit, in fact, your basic anatomy exceedes mine. And with me, there is no digimon fan link, either, and I still like your work.

Sigh maybe youre right... but honestly, has my work ever impressed anyone AT ALL? Nobody has ever expressed admiration for what i do, except for a very close friend of mine on DA. It is clear that no one shows interest in my work, and it clearly means that i gotta step on it real hard for recognition. Now i got you, Flea and Scorp as my viewers and im grateful because it means that theres still interest. There are some few others too, but i had to dig for recognition, and thats not what i desire. I want to showcase and attract people with my art, not to wander off to them just to ask them to come over. I wont stop butchering myself until ive truly reached a level where i can consider my work OK.

To tell the truth, I am a envying artist myself. It's a wonder I haven't turned green yet. But envy is a great power to push you foward, once you learn to keep it inside your head...

Many men, wish death upon me
Blood in my eye dawg and I can't see
I'm trying to be what I'm destined to be
And n***** trying to take my life away

- 50 Cent, "Many Men"