1,829 Forum Posts by "GrizzlyOne"
I'm sure the right wing will stop that from happening and direct the financial resources to killing brown people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3881Uvw8qg
They have successfully solidified their audience demographic. Vote libertarian!
At 12/1/14 11:49 PM, Canas wrote: For those of us stupid enough to still own Microsoft gaming products,
I'm just curious, what type of mod are you on this site? Forum mod? Portal mod? etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcHH13T4mpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wgQvij3rVE
Love how they shit down on a title because it's triple A yet praise indie dog shit.
LOL, I went over to their community forums and it's mostly bronies and pseudo intellectuals, fitting.
but just fear the possible pain before it?
I've always disliked seafood, but there seems to be many cultures centered around it but I don't know why?? Am I missing something? most seafood I've seen has a bad smell to it, I've had fish but I don't like the texture of it and these fried clams I had before were too chewy after a while. Help?!
Sorry to burst your bubble . . . but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ina6MhiCa2I&list=UUzozMcF1kcR9dzsdEkRHdaw
I've been looking online for help but it isn't clicking with me. Does anybody have a simple explanation for it?
It looks like they slapped on some PS2/Wii quality textures on everything with a few special effects, big deal, lol.
I think you people misunderstand the average apathy and ignorance of the average U.S. voter, it doesn't matter if the leading party does really good or really bad, whoever has the flashiest ads win, end of story.
At 11/6/14 01:59 PM, Camarohusky wrote: I'm kind of curious as to exactly why the shift to red happened.
All of the metrics show that the country has significantly improved under Obama.
I don't care for Obama that much because he seems mostly to be only a democratic in name but people in america (especially the midwest) are sheep, case closed.
lol, i saw that originally like a month ago
but to be honest with you, Fart Copter was better. most of the live-actions shows [AS] shows at 3 AM are better than their regular live action shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXOdn6vLCuU
what do u think, newgrounds?
At 11/1/14 01:20 AM, Xenomit wrote: How many vegans does it take to change a light bulb? None. Everybody knows they can't change anything.
What is the Native American word for vegetarian? "Shitty hunter"
How many vegetarians does it take to eat a cow? One if no one's looking.
Veganism is 100% unnecessary
Why do you feel this way? Please actually elaborate instead of throwing out insults like what people who can't backup anything do.
i need to lose weight and I'm wondering if I can do that with replacing everything with black beans.
plus, the meat industry is wrong, just pointing that out now
I'm trying to find that news thread where that black female news reporter shoves her nose into this guy's face and then he gets a gun out and the reporter gos to her regular southern accent, does anyone have that video/thread here?
A guy was killed by a SWAT team in Utah after he called a suicide hotline and talked to the SWAT team for several hours.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/call-suicide-prevention-hotline-killed-swat-team
can evolutionize and thrive off the land.
spiders are evil, bees and wasps aren't. Spiders are keeping the great bees and wasps from becoming humanity's succesor, who agrees that spiders need to die off?
mimsy's boss is apparently a fan of the looney tunes
At 10/13/14 09:50 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anybody knows of an actual reason behind this new album project? (other then of course the "It's for the money" answer).
Get richard wright's (who's dead now) work out of the vault and remaster it with some possible new stuff not recorded in the division bell sessions.
At their age, I doubt they would mostly do it for money, they're probably just doing it to get richard's work out and maybe for fun.
Seeing as NG has it's share of people still into Pink Foyd, what do you think of this, everybody besides yurgenburgen? :p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Endless_River
I live in the central U.S., how bad is Ebola gonna spread? I wasn't worried at first but it seems to becoming a growing concern, help?
well my governor said not to worry about it and giving the fact everything that comes out that person's mouth usually turns out to be the opposite I better run for the hills, anybody got bunk?
At 9/27/14 11:36 PM, Bit wrote:
Yet many people are Christians who believe "God hates fags" and that women should stay at home, while a very, very small number of people believe that the Holocaust never happened.
If everything that could incite hate and bigotry were illegal, that would include most mainstream religions, most forms of patriotism, and would result in the arrest of nearly the whole population of Earth.
I'm not going to debate/argue what I think about religion or Christianity because it has nothing to do with this topic, and with your last point, ignoring the holocaust directly allows hate. Having love for the area you are in or following aspects of a religion can but doesn't directly lead into an excuse for hate like neo-nazis denying the Holocaust ever happened.
@NeonSpider
What are you going to get them with? What crime can you charge them with? Many of these groups are very good at knowing how to walk that fine line to remain within legal grounds. See Westboro Baptist for example.
Ilegalize/criminalize it
You could say "well make this or that illegal" but that just pushes the line and they'll still see how far they can go while still remaining on the legal side of that line.
What? It would give the offending party less stuff to work with.
At 9/27/14 11:07 PM, Bit wrote:At 9/27/14 10:39 PM, Freaki-boy92 wrote: StuffI used scientists as an example because they are a group which has often been met with serious opposition with regards to their ideas. Yes, there is substantial modern evidence which proves many of their hypothesis, but many of them had highly controversial ideas in their time. People could have justified arresting Darwin because 'evidence' against evolution can be found in the Bible. That was the limit of most peoples' understanding of life because it was all of the evidence most people needed. Certainly people would have agreed that his ideas were 'toxic'.
No modern ideas should be censored for the same reason. Even though most people may believe the contrary, the idea itself is not necessarily incorrect. Making it illegal to present new ideas - even ones which have been disproved in some respect - is completely counterproductive. If the idea is wrong then it will be disproved again, but it should never be illegal to present an idea.
My tv shows are about to come on in a bit so I'm just gonna leave this to the other guy.
Why should it be illegal, though? And what makes you think that a very, very small group denying a historical event will bring about another genocide?
1:"It should be illegal/criminalized because it's denying the event that happened as a result of years of racism, intolerance, and an anti-productive culture. Denying when events like the Holocaust happened basically gives room for other people to do stuff along the lines of "HA, HA LET'S MAKE INTOLERANT JOKES AND BE TOTAL RACIST SHITHEADS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAY NEVER NOTHING EVER HAPPENED UNTIL IT BOILS DOWN TO ANOTHER GENOCIDE LOL"."
2: Don't you think the root of the hate that starts genocides starts out small? It might not in the immediate future, but over time, some really anti-productive beliefs like racism or "hate never led to any mass genocide" can grow in number, to where it can become a mass-cultural view/belief. Scientology is an example of this where the religion spreads from just small starting group meetings to over hundreds of thousands of members. Memes like "dick-neck" originally started from this small website and spread to become a temporary internet fad.
I don't think we're on the same page. I'm saying that, in principle, Holocaust denial is just as ignorant and harmful as any religious or conspiracy group who believe that history is incorrect, and feel the need to 're-educate' people using lies.
I don't know about you but I don't think in terms of lives that saying the Earth is flat or that there was some conspiracy loophole in some past event is as harmful as believing that hate didn't lead to a mass and brutal genocide of at least around 20 million people. The two former that I listed can be harmful but I don't think nearly as the latter.
But they don't. In fact, Christianity has done quite a bit more to spread hate than Holocaust deniers. Especially hate for women and homosexuals.
I don't mean to be rude, but it seems like you're going off topic now. What does Christianity have to with anything in this argument?
At 9/27/14 10:52 PM, NeonSpider wrote:At 9/27/14 10:39 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: ...Except denying that mass genocides happened, if enough believed it, would lead to having an excuse to spread hate.Doesn't matter. Having a belief, no matter how twisted, wrong, or etc that belief may be, in and of itself should not be illegal. But if you harm others based on a belief, at that point it very much becomes illegal.
Except harmful beliefs like for example neo-nazis denying the holocaust lead to harmful actions 90% of the time, that's why they have things like neo-nazi rallies in the first place to discuss and promote their hate.
It's the action, and not the belief, which should be illegal.
So you're saying that KKK rallies to just name one example are alright by themselves, even though they initially fuel and get the members going in blood rush on their quest to go kill or harm African Americans.
Ignorance spreads, and it's bad, but there's not really much that can be done about that other than try to educate people. But ultimately it's up to each individual person what they believe or not.
ok
There are groups I absolutely think should not exist (racist hate groups, etc...) but as long as they don't do anything illegal that you can pin on them, there's not really a lot that can be done. Just having incorrect beliefs in itself shouldn't be illegal. That's the general American view of things.
Yet the US, in terms of the developed world has some of the strongest open racism and is the one of the countries with the least amount of social rights in the developed world, especially in the south. What a coinky-dink.
lol freaki posted about that guy misusing the word theory before i did
At 9/27/14 10:22 PM, Bit wrote:At 9/27/14 10:13 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: Are you seriously justifying counter-productive behavior like denying something like the holocaust existed which is present in history books, witness accounts, and the damn camps themselves which many are still up today by comparing it to the lack of knowledge of modern science?
I bet you're one of those people who think "muh FIIIIIIIIIIIRST amendament makes 'ME allowed to say i hate gays 'n blacks on A&E" or thinks they can make threats to people because of it.
I'm saying that a theory should not be illegal only because it is unpopular
1: Saying the holocaust didn't happen isn't a theory, at best it's a hypothesis.
2: It shouldn't be illegal because it's unpopular, it should be illegal/criminalized because it's denying the event that happened as a result of years of racism, intolerance, and an anti-productive culture. Denying when events like the Holocaust happened basically gives room for other people to do stuff along the lines of "HA, HA LET'S MAKE INTOLERANT JOKES AND BE TOTAL RACIST SHITHEADS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAY NEVER NOTHING EVER HAPPENED UNTIL IT BOILS DOWN TO ANOTHER GENOCIDE LOL".
It may be incorrect to claim that the Holocaust did not happen, but making such a claim is not a crime. It's just another (widely disproved) theory. If we arrest Holocaust deniers then we need to arrest the conspiracy theorists, flat Earth theorists, and Scientologists, too.
None of those apart from Scientology are actually counter-productive in terms of, you know, people being weeded out in some hate-induced campaign of "MAKING A PURE RACE", and even then, Scientology was nowhere near the Holocaust or any other genocide.
And saying that you hate blacks and gays shouldn't be a crime, either.
It isn't iirc, I was just referring to the Duck Dynasty incident.
You can have whatever opinion you want as long as you're not interfering with the rights of others. Having the right to say such a thing does not exempt you from the social consequences of doing so, though. You definitely won't be a popular person if you say that you hate gays and black, but you should not be arrested for it.
...Except denying that mass genocides happened, if enough believed it, would lead to having an excuse to spread hate.
At 9/27/14 10:06 PM, Bit wrote:At 9/27/14 09:55 PM, Freaki-boy92 wrote: yesYeah! Darwin should have been jailed for his unpopular theories, too! Let's not forget Galileo, Copernicus, Newton, and every other famous scientist. We had evidence to the contrary, therefore they should not have been allowed to say anything to which contradicted our current models.
there's a difference between freedom of speech and denial of cold, hard facts. like, when it comes to opinions? fire the fuck away, but you can't deny things that actually happened, that there is cold, hard proof of... hell, some of the people who were interned in those camps are still alive today, there are people still on this planet who lost friends to the holocaust, there are images of mass graves, written german documents from the time which prove that this was happening- documents of the experiments conducted on live (unwilling) test subjects. there is hard evidence that it happened... honestly? i'm all for freedom of opinion, however the holocaust isn't a matter of opinion.
Really, though. It doesn't work like that. Nobody should be jailed for believing unpopular theories.
Are you seriously justifying counter-productive behavior like denying something like the holocaust existed which is present in history books, witness accounts, and the damn camps themselves which many are still up today by comparing it to the lack of knowledge of modern science?
I bet you're one of those people who think "muh FIIIIIIIIIIIRST amendament makes 'ME allowed to say i hate gays 'n blacks on A&E" or thinks they can make threats to people because of it.
