Newgrounds.com — Everything, By Everyone.

At 5/19/14 05:18 PM, 0-ret wrote: Using the audio portal to access music on android systems that don't support flash is time-consuming since it requires the user to download the track to play it.

Do you can suggest any else way to play NG music without downloading? Even games for web-browsers, what are "not need to download" still download many resourses, just this not so shown to players. Anything what not build-in inside App you need to download to use (aka "use internet connection to get data")
Flash, mp3, Android... Do you know NG already have player for Audio Portal what automatically use not-a-Flash solution if browser do not support Flash? No support of Flash in Android is not a point to speak about here.
It seems you not a (good) developer, I`d better like to see person who know how it work to speak about so kind of things.

If possible, I want to eventually incorporate the ability to sign in and use newgrounds account capabilities (voting, commenting, etc.) without leaving the app

So you will be able to collect user authorisation information. Paranoics will be "happy".

At 5/19/14 02:26 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: I think @Filarius was attempting something like this, to make a radio service but on his site rather than as an app...

Hello here.
Yes, but I did it more like proof-of-convept, pretty ugly way, but from first byte of code I allways thought about respect to authors of music and what I will add work to NG hardware without moneyback in kind of showing NG adverts.

At 5/19/14 02:09 PM, 0-ret wrote: I'm talking with app developers about creating something similar in function to the NGAP Radio flash app made by -EON-.

I'd like to know what you think about this idea while we're still in the alpha phase. The first step in the project outline is designing the interface. Thank you for your input.

If you will add adverts I wish you will share profits with NG.

Another thing related to my previos text in this message - NG now use CDN CloudFlare, and it add protection, also for such strange activity like hotlinking - it is what you will do if your app will not use your own server with copy of NG music.

At 5/16/14 01:07 PM, freaksy101 wrote:

At 5/16/14 03:12 AM, Filarius wrote:

You can just turn the sounds off.

I did it already as I have another group chat, but it`s smaller.
Turning sound and pop-ups off makes me / you more slow on answering. You need manually check if there is new messages (at last look at skype icon in task bar, but if you play game you do not see it) and you can`t be fast in reply.

ok, finally I find I need write this
Why you must NOT use Skype for big group chat:
1) It`s annoying - you will get many sound and pop-up notifications, one per message.
2) It fill your rage-o-meter - anybody can start voice conversation, and sound if incoming call can wake up you at 4 a.m., or disturb you while you watching movie or your favorite football team tournament, or make you be killed in game by on-top window what you will click with mouse instead of shoot at that enemy
3) hard to enter - if creator of chat is offline you can not enter chat by link until (s)he will go online. So most option - ask somebody to add you, but first you must add one more not needed contact to your list
4) noisy voice chat - while voice chat in Skype is can be good to talk with 1-3 guys, going more will add too many noises. Skype have echo removing, but you still able to hear all background sound of chat-mates, like TV, family talking and etc all the time
5) voice chat creator issue - if he go away and all elsebody want to continue voice chat you must call again, filling rage-o-meter (part (2) of this list) of else chat mates a bit more.
6) file sharing - you can share a file directly just by drag&drop it to chat window, but get it can only who skype "friends" with you, and who do not have you in contact list can not get any files from you. Many people forget about this.
7) anarchy - usually there are no moderators in Skype chat. You can say "Anarchy is good because of freedom". Freedom to hit your head with brick.

There many else "why".
Using Skype group chat (at last in way what we have right now) as replacement of NG chat looks good only if you do not watch in future.

Maybe start petition to return NG Chat ?

Forget about Skype. It`s good for privat chat and small parties, but big group became really annoying and noisy.

Just reminding all of you about there is NG chat in QuakeNet IRC network
Channel #Newgrounds.com
http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=Newgrounds.com

I want to learn on practice about how to make server side for multiplayer game (what made on AS or else). I have some knowladge of PHP language and did several simple projects on it. I have idea of game and guys who (I wish so) will help me with it, but while they busy on current projects I want to try to write game mechanics for something simple.
I know about PHP not so best for game server, but you can install so server on any cheap (or even free) website.
Because of web hosted PHP and me I can`t do server side for realtime games, so I want to start from small simple multiplayer game what will be turn-based.

Just for note:
Last message recieved by logger was at about 2 hours and 15 minutes before posting this message.

At 2/4/14 03:57 PM, Dragen wrote: I think it is a convenient feature.. Any update on it, Filarius?

Nothing much. I`m so noob at Javascript and web-design to make something better.
Where was few fixes, one about better and faster file list, another - in setting to ask search engine bots do not go in logs (after I was asked for it). Changed hosting to little bigger, so now u can see more logs.

At 2/2/14 08:11 AM, dragonsmoking wrote: where is the ng chat is it reall down or am i banned for some reason?

I think only some part of NG is down. Need find/wait news from staff.

At 1/22/14 11:56 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:

is it possible to limit the request to only say the 100 first, regardless of how many users/genres a user selects?

Already limited with 100. I wish add JS (also AJAX) code to do something like dynamic tracks load, or I thought about make pages.
Also about limiting - I think there must be some more filters, like top or last, but with top I must parse all track pages

Will be nice, as my solution for placing icons and links is pretty... not good one. If u know html+css+js.

I know HTML and CSS, but as for JS I only know how to use existing code, not program it. Still most things can be done through CSS, there shouldn't need to be a scrolbar between the two frames, or a list icon before the icons, and I could spiff up the layout a little. Will send a PM about that.

Well, script of player mostly on JS, so to add tracks I writing code what placed in page code itself and must be valid under string var of JS. Also it break styles of playerlist skin. I think right solution will be to dig player source and reference to find more natural way to add playlist elements.
Or maybe I just was not so right about searching and using exactly this player (but it can auto-switch from Flash to Html5 if Flash not available for user)

At 1/22/14 05:18 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:

This is pretty awesome! :D Is that a list of all artists who have submitted anything?

it`s list of artists who was scouted and have at last one track

Wonder if it's loaded every time the page is loaded, or cached for a certain amount of time?

Loaded from database first time page loads, on choosing artists and style reloads only side with player (used html frames, pretty old way)

- Make all genres default choice if you just select artist(s) and click submit

I think it is just HTML thing, what will make "select all: already be choosed on page load, it can be added fast, I think. But way what watch for use clicks can be done only by JavaScript, and I do not know it.

- Add some instructions, like: select artists and 'click here' (<- button) to play

I`m afraid page will be overload with it, maybe I just need rename "submi" button to "play" button.

- Maybe add an option to play a specific genre rather than artists?

I just find there is select all for authors, I thought I remove this option, too big load on website for current implementation.
Same for genre, maybe I can add random, but playlist of all tracks of all artists of some genre too big to allow this way now.

- Maybe add an option to select random artists/genre?

Total random - I will keep it in mind to do.

I could definitely help out with the design btw.

Will be nice, as my solution for placing icons and links is pretty... not good one. If u know html+css+js.

OK folks, I think now I can share link to player.

Here it is

First release, so some bugs must be.
Icons added but it needed to re-parse music portal again to collect it all. Most old tracks do not have custom icons so not big loss if u do not see icon.

Player also must play under Android (do not have anything from Apple to test on it), just there is no mobile version now.

If you have skills in designing web pages you can help me to make this player page look better, I`m pretty bad in this things.

I found some users have issue with DNS update, it looks like u just find error on opening main website, but u can open NG chat.
Temporary solution - change ISP DNS to Google DNS or any else public one.
Search queries:
How can I change my computers DNS address
Google DNS

P.S. After some assident on my ISP side I always prefer use Google DNS.

At 1/12/14 05:28 AM, Cyberdevil wrote: I don't think the style matters as much as if the player uses an excessive amount of server resources or not, though probably not a problem. The embedding style is still in a early phase so that might change too. Oh... would it be possible to fetch the actual embed code for each piece of audio you play? That way stats could be gathered at the same time.

By URL what I use to hotlink now NG must gather "downloads" count on track play, I wish so.

I can try to collect embedding code, but I do not see point to show embed frame if already have nice player with playlist and if I can`t handle playing music in embed frame to make it work like this player.
Also collecting data from each track page is about 50 time more slower then just parse list from music portal - that what I do now.

But I still wish to get permission from NG staff, thats most why I start this topic - to get attention, as I can`t find what else I must do here.

At 1/11/14 06:55 AM, Cyberdevil wrote: This looks pretty good! Would be fun to try it out. As for hotlinking, there are plenty of flash gadgets that work the same way, like these:

This players hosted at NG website, so NG do not loose money on adverts showing, and as they located at NG website it is not so hotlinking, but similar.

WOW, I miss embedding option for audio, then I think if I will make is will look similar to embedding frame then I can use hotlinking without big worries. At last I can say "it is same to embedding!" maybe besides allowing NG to collect some statistics through embedding code.

At 1/11/14 04:34 PM, nameofguthix wrote: We could use an audio player that lets you pick genres and such. Hope you get the right permissions to release it.

I have in mind to add options about score, tags, medals and else what will be suggested to me to do.

At 1/11/14 09:49 PM, kazumazkan wrote: I just wish there was a working app to download on the phone

For now I tested it (web page) on my Android phone and it is works, just need re-design for phones.
Player what I find to play music can use both Flash and HTML5 to play music and automatically choose HTML5 if Flash can not be used on current browser (if I got it right).
Just do not have any phone from Apple to test on it.

Keep posting images for free, it was not said he need hires image

I want to say about one simple web player what I just did.
I can`t say it is something hard to do, just parser, database, and player(created by someone else), but all solutions what I found to play music from NG music portal or already do no work or old and do not have options what I wish must be.
Right now it is WIP (work in progress), but I had to make a stop as I wish make it public, and last version already allow me to share it, but there is a problem.
So little but big problem. I can`t copy and store music from NG on my side because there are too many music on NG (i think about 1Tb or more) and I can`t (or do not want) rent server for it. And right now my player just use hotlinking (such thing then you link to files located at another website to make it be llike it is your own website content).
I know about hotlinking never was good thing and I wish I will have a talk with NG staff to find what I must do to get official permisson to hotlink (like place advert to allow NG do not loose advert-money from music portal). Surely links to NG, authors pages and CC license will be placed.
Sadly, but NG staff what I contacted or do not able to talk about so topic, or too busy to answer on my messages, or I do not know who else I can talk with.

Right now I can`t place here link to web-player (because of using hotliking) and if any from NG folks who already know link will post it here - I will move it from my website.
But you can take a look on screenshot of current version of player.
http://imgur.com/jzSslc6

P.S. Also I think to make radio with user-voted music from NG. It can be player based or (better) with usage of internet radio server, I did not found what I want to do or what will be easier.

I see you do not search easy ways (like record sound from microphone on each PC by usual tools, and on one PC record mixed sound), yep ?

I think you did not really need lossless encoding.

About recording -sadly I do not have exp in C#, I can only advise you search for using LAME encoder in C#
Example: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19166140/how-do-can-i-use-lame-to-encode-an-wav-to-an-mp3-c-sharp
Example: http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/5901/C-MP3-Compressor
Also there is so nice thing like BASS what make more easy creating soft what work with sound
http://www.un4seen.com/
You can take a look at forum and library itself.

LAME is encoder to MP3, for best quality just make sure you record at best bitrate (most best in music usualy used 320Kbps) and using quality encoding setting, not fast one.
Another coin for using MP3 - it`s totaly supported by any software.

Aside of MP3 you can look at FLAC as encoding used for most quality, even lossless.

Looking for person who can help me to create design for web-player of NG music.
I just finished parser on PHP (at last this parser work and do not show unexpected errors) what collect information about authors, music style, track name, page link, and download link .
I wish to make player what will allow more customization then NG natively have.
But right now I do not have any thoughts about how player page must look like. I also like to use AJAX on it (for lists load and etc staff) but do not have to write on JS before.

Youtube do not have so comminity, it is just collection of random people, and there are too many videos to find only your one.
If u want get more views on Youtube you need find place where you can advert yourself and send people to go to Youtube to watch you.

At 11/23/13 04:37 PM, fourchannings wrote: There is a whole list of games that are free, y'know. (link to Steam)

I`d like to separate games what use Free-to-Play idea (most F2P games makes u play for additional items and etc or u will find you can`t move on or it will became more harder with new levels without buying for real money anything) and just free games.

If I remember right C&C:Red Alert 2 officially became free.

Here is some lists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freeware_video_games
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_video_games

Also there is exists so thing like "Abandomware" what stands for games no one company care about. Mostly about old games.

Ethical things - it is only what some society think what things are good, and what things are bad. No more, no less.
Make change in time and\or place, and you will find same thngs have another state of good/evil.

Funny about people write here about things what why did not really know.
Sadly about people write here and think they wrote a good joke.

I never had to try any.

*Here must be text to continue senseless dialog but it was deleted.*

Ok, I missundertanded, you missundertanded. 1 : 1.

We both think we are smart persons, and if we want to continue this dialog better switch to online messaging.

If nobody else want to say what service I can use to upload files from PHP script so I will go out from here.

Just I need get it clear what your "HTTP" is stand for. From all what I read I have opinion you speak about web services from point of view of common people.

For me HTTP - is Hyper Text Transfer Protocol, and there is no place for drag&drop on this level of WWW.

I mean API for MediaFire.
I do not know any simple way to use Drag&Drop features of websites in any programming language. What about windowless c++ as example ?

Maybe I said not so clear, but again - I want my script do all work for upload. When you speaking about drag&drop features, and maybe http ( I prefer to name it simply website or web-service) - this means you speaking about I must spend my time for every time I will upload this files.

At 9/10/13 11:31 AM, Diki wrote: Why do you specifically need FTP? Using HTTP-based services will work just fine, especially if you're just uploading text files.

Shared webhosting + cronjob + php script. Really i`m not so sure about FTP will be easier to work with as I did not tried it. I think to automaticaly upload files using php and cronjob. I think FTP must be easier to use, with compare to this service, I need learn API to upload.
Also I think I can choose (in future) to not allow users to find I use foreign storage, (also for statistics reason).

At 9/9/13 02:25 PM, Diki wrote: Since it's just a basic HTML file you can upload it to file-hosting services such as MediaFire.

Thanks, I will keep it in mind as this service not have all options what I think I need want from it.

I just remembered one service with FTP access to files, maybe I will try it soon. Or MediaFire.

I finally remade my chat logger for Newgrounds.com, now some issues fixed.
Logs now (must) have no double messages, and take less space,
but I still wander where I can find place for this logs, better it will be for free....

P.S. Logs van be find here http://greyed.ru/ngcl/

P.S.S. I have previous logs too, but it must be reparsed.

Yes, there is no need to have special PC to develop, but some things may make this work more comfortable.