At 3/8/08 03:30 PM, zoolrule wrote:
do you understand the you replied to was a contra reply to the other guys message, so i didn't make myself very clear, next time read the whole thing before you comment. and now for you
so? I read up, agreed with the guy, and didn't agree with you. I can intervene if I want to.
do you understand both Hebrew and Arabic, that you can analyze what the reporters say and explain? i, in opposition to you do not base my opinion on what the media and television shows. and i agree both sides, actually, they don't show any side. They never say, the Evil Terrorist, they never say, the Amazing IDF.
Hum I'm sorry, the israeli channel I get is in English. So yeah.. And the images displayed say enough. I don't base my opinion on what the media say you idiot. If I did, why would I have taken a step back to realize both medias were outraging. You're trying to put words in my mouth, that I don't like. You suck in dialectic.
they just say, what happened, and they obviously focus more on what happened to the Israelis than the Palestinians. (the media)
They don't just say what happenned. You're feeble-minded if you think so. Medias manipulate. That's what they do. Denying that is being ignorant and foolish. So get a grasp.
the conflict, currently, Is because Israel are trying to stop the Terrorism, And the Palestinians are doing terror, i don't really know what are their goals actually, do you mind telling me why? from military and strategic aspect it gives them nothing, same from political aspect, so i conclude that the terror acts are cause of emotions and a need to fulfil their hate. i'm not saying that Palestinians started, i only analyze the situation as i see it.
Hilarious. Your country defends justice equality, yet they act as tyrans. Israel has the right to defend itself, but so does Palestine. When there's an Israeli raid on Gaza for example, Israel claims it's self-defense. When Palestinians try to defend themselves, they're called terrorists. Your vision of the conflict is asymetric, hence your arguments falling into pieces. It's like when you write an essay: Thesis - Antithesis - Synthesis. Except you don't have an antithesis, you go right to the synthesis. You couldn't care less about the antithesis eh?
yea, they bought lands legally, and not alot to be honest. buy a land where a nation has settled ? they were not even considered a nation by themselves back then, they were, and still are - just Arabic-Muslims, the only thing that unites them is their hate to Israel, they only exist 60 years, since the country of Israel was created. they are a result of the massive propaganda campaign started by the Arabic league at the days.
Yeah they bought houses, appartments and properties to poor Palestinians who did not have a dime. They had the right to do so, it's legal. But there's more to it. It's an undirect colonization.
Such big words. You can't just kick people out and expect them to accept it. What would you do if I kicked you out of your nice little home. You'd want revenge. It's simple human behaviors, but on a much bigger scale.
are the Romans that lived in "Palestine" considered Palestinians ? are the Brits that lived in the "Palestine" considered Palestinians ? are the ottomans ? are the Byzantines that lived there considered Palestinians? No! for the same reason, the "Palestinians" Shouldn't even be considered as a nation. they are just as Jordanian as the Jordanians, just as Saudi as the Saudis, etc.
Well fuck me. Why would Israel have the right to be considered a nation, whereas not Palestine. Who are you to decide? You're being immoral.
I think this is enough to justify the lands that were LEGALLY bought there, because back then there were no Palestinians.
So what? Just because there were jews there 2000 years ago, means that nowadays, jews can come and claim the land as their own. Lemme give you an analogy. The pilgrims kicked the Indians out of America. If we follow your logic, the Indians should have the right to take back their land (aka AMERICA). Wow that makes so much sense.
Relativate? One-sided thinking? Man, go to hell. You're the one defending Israel no matter what they do. You're a little puppet. Ever played Simon says? Well you're life is like a big Simon says. Except Simon is Israel.
first, i didn't even write this, it was the other guy.
My bad for that, excuse me.
second, don't act like you know me, if you would youd know that i am the most far thing from a blind-believer. and i wont defend Israel no matter what. the day that Innocent Palestinian would be killed on purpose by the IDF, ill stop defending them .
Stop defending them right now then. Cause innocents are being killed.
the day that the Israeli-Arabs (Yep, the Palestinian are just as Israeli-Arabs as the Israeli Arabs), will be treated bad, considering that alot of them Officialy support and some help the Terror, they carry Flags of Hamas even though they are Israeli, i'll stop defending them. the day that Israel wont want peace, ill stop defending them. getting my point?
No, you contradict yourself every paragraph. You were telling me about Palestinians being evil and representing terror, and now you're talking about an alliance between Israelis and Arabs.
Israel doesn't want peace, it wants to eradicate the arabs. It wants to consume what's left of the area.
In my opinion, Israel has no chance, it's a time bomb, they can't just treat people that way and not expect any retalliation. The day America stops supporting Israel is the day Israel falls.
Please reply to everything and don't pick what, just like i did.