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At 12/5/06 06:21 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:

At 12/5/06 06:03 PM, EKublai wrote: I cannot understand God sometimes. He is supposed to be the ever-forgiving God. He is supposed to love his children. Even when god is angered he still loves. Then why does he sometimes smite his children? What was the point of destroying Sodom and its inhabitants because they were gay?

Theres a difference between God's will, and God's Will as said by the Christian Church.

What are we to agree is actually God's wil without being biased on one religiion then? Then how can we actually debate this topic from two different wills of God. That liek arguming with two different sets of statistics.

I see there's a debate on agnosticism. Not to interrupt, bu tI would like to putsome input as it seems I'm the one who sparked the discussion.

At the beginning of the thread I was definitely uncertain, concluding that I was an Agnostic Atheist. Now, I discover that this cannot be true because you cannot have to conflicting religious views. I also noticed that seeing as Atheism is a much more proper term to use for a religious view because what Agnoticism is, is an encompassing philosophical view that declares ignorance, which I think at this point is probably the keenest thing one can do at this point in terms of looking at the matter philosophically. Howver, Atheism is not necessarily the the belief in no higher being like a God, but the belief in the Knowledge there is no god. Therefore, Atheism is the only thing that can apply to religion and Agnoticism is merely the view that people take when they try to find the truth, and not to believe.

At 12/5/06 08:50 PM, Devildoubt wrote: --Is it not enough to accept the patterns in nature?
--Are you questing the WHY and HOW patterns in nature such as DNA are made?
--Or are you questioning the REASON WHY humans have the capacity to see patterns?

Sorry, I don't quite understand...

I'm asking why it only seems to fit into a pattern, and why it is not obvious. I can understand why you would be able to see the randomness as a pattern of sorts. But as you said it only seems to be the case, bringing up the question wouldn't it be just as well that the randomness fits no pattern at all? And if all randomness turns out to fit the pattern what does it mean? In my view, it could not respect a pattern because the random life is unpredictable, we are unable to predict the future with the exception of a few cases. However, I concede that if what you expect from life is unpredictability, then you must be leading a very boring life, already knowing that what lies ahead is unknown.

I believe that each action results in an equal and opposite reaction. If a woman inflicts pain onto a man, that man must inflict identical pain on her. No more no less.

I cannot understand God sometimes. He is supposed to be the ever-forgiving God. He is supposed to love his children. Even when god is angered he still loves. Then why does he sometimes smite his children? What was the point of destroying Sodom and its inhabitants because they were gay? In the end, God is making a mistake. If Homosexuality is a sin, then it must be treated as such. People are not smitten for their sins, but are sent to hell after they die. Why would it not be the same for the citizens of Sodom? I mean, there's no reasoning since we know it did not destroy homosexuality. And again, even if he had, that would would be destroying a sin, a sin that is supposed to test a Christian's faith.

At 12/5/06 05:40 PM, Devildoubt wrote:

At 12/5/06 12:56 PM, cold-as-hell wrote:

At 12/4/06 11:34 PM, Devildoubt wrote: "Random chaos"?...Hmm...how about "ordered chaos"?

To many varibles

Well, chaos is already randomness, but if everything SEEMS to fit in place, such as the structure of DNA or the Mandrelbrot set, there is a pattern/order in chaos.

That is the problem. To make the argument work. It must do more than
seem to persuade, but it must actually do so.

At 12/4/06 02:08 PM, cold-as-hell wrote: Fuck me hes got something there.

If we go to heaven or hell for eternity then it will be predicted and boring.

So are you saying that pleasure and pain in equilibrium is perfection? Much like your random chaos?

I cannot say, it must be different for everyone. In my personal opinion, equilibrium can be both a perfection and imperfection. Perfection because there can be many ways of achieving equilibrium at different time and in different ways (say like a math problem 2+2=4 but also (2*5+10)/5 also equals for.) However, i don't think it's fair to say that equilibrium is the only explanation for perfection. For that reason, i cannot offer an explanation. It's just a gut feeling

At 12/4/06 07:10 AM, TheMason wrote:

At 12/4/06 02:07 AM, EKublai wrote: I live my life every day by asking the same question asked by Socrates in every sentence of The Republic, "What is the good life?" My life is bound to that question and therefore, not to religion. I idolize no higher being besides my own power to ask these questions. I find that the only true reasoning for my being atheist is because religion relies upon a higher being to decide what the good life is. If we ourselves can only lead the good life in one fashion, then what is the good life but the predictable, dull one.

There is an inherent contradiction here. Even if you are an atheist, there is a higher power that decides what the good life is for you. This higher power is called society. You are born and raised within an external structure that teaches you what is good. Obviously you are educated or at least well read. But why do you think you are that way? Generally speaking we are a society that pushes education. Furthermore, there is a rule of law in which a code is set forth that tells you what the good life is, a social morality if you will...

Also Socrates described a state in which people are born into the roles that they will have throughout their life. There was little independence or self determination in his republic.

Anyway, just a few rambling thoughts before I have to go to work...

Great topic!

Good points. But I think I may have been implying something that I did not mean to. The fact that the question that both socrates and I ask are the same do not mean we believe in the same answer. My view is that since we can all admit to a certain amount to chaos in our lives, we can also admit that we have allowed ourselves to travel through the road to success drunk, not knowing whether where we are going is actually good life. But because the motivation is there, nothing, not society, not life, or even death, can change the fact that we persue it, even if 'it' is unknown. Since I believe this to be true, I cannot except the concept of a God (atheism) because a higher being that did not orginate from human thinking and is therefore superior is like walking down that same road sober. Religion is the only thing that does this. It is the only law that when broken it is garanteed to have reprecussions. Even society itself cannot claim that it is a higher being than me because while it heavily influences my conduct (which I point out, is only because I wish to live for awhile) it stil cannot contain me from saying that Society is not justice, and therefore living opressed by the laws of society, besides being dull and predictable, are violations of human thinking, the same thinking that asks, "what is the good life?"

I find some of this hard to believe as homosexuality is found in Chimps, however, it is not in the interest of reproduction or pleasure. It's pretty much the equivalent to me shaking your hand saying "hello there sir, OH no! don't mind me, just testing out your anus.)

I live my life every day by asking the same question asked by Socrates in every sentence of The Republic, "What is the good life?" My life is bound to that question and therefore, not to religion. I idolize no higher being besides my own power to ask these questions. I find that the only true reasoning for my being atheist is because religion relies upon a higher being to decide what the good life is. If we ourselves can only lead the good life in one fashion, then what is the good life but the predictable, dull one. And after we die we would go into an eternal bliss, a situation that I feel could possibly worse than to go to Hell and suffer eternally. Either way, both will eventually become dull and predictable because of this word, 'eternal.' Happiness? What is happiness without grief to compare it? What is surrow with no joy to balence? What good is an 'eternal' life when it is missing one of the most valuable characteristics of all. Chaos. Chaos is the nearest thing to perfection in this world, because as I have realized, there almost always has been, there always is, and there always will be grief, joy, anger, pain, and all other emotions in the mortal life. Chaos is the pandemic that kills and gives birth everyday, and never stops. So I must ask God, the all-knowing, and of course I offer him nothing to credit me as philosopher of equal intelligence, but I must beg to as why? Why when we die, do we substitute the 'perfect' life, for the 'eternal' one. Whether sending us to Heaven or Hell, we always suffer, knowing that while we lived, we were able to experience the imperfections of the world that made it so livable.

If doom doesn't return then the other guy can have it but if he does then he gets his thread back

k did it how do you want me to send it.

At 11/26/06 12:40 PM, zach9311 wrote: I need this for flash, I'm new to sound recording and editing, but I was hoping you might help!
CLickya

send in a mp3 format

is there a better quality version?

At 11/26/06 10:00 AM, fuzz wrote: I traced myself.
Practising shading and stuff in photoshop.

overall it looks great but I think that every individual shadow and highlight could be tinkered with a bit, especially when dealig with your collar. And like luis said, comb your hair before posting yourself on NG. Your mom must be having a fit.

At 11/25/06 11:17 PM, x-factor11 wrote: its creeping its way to completion..first 5 seconds of a 6 minute song :(

That's an awesome first five seconds lol. I can a tiny bit of tinkering needed. For some reason when the 'camera' swoops in it look like the background starts out compressed then it's stretched heightwise. Don't know if that's true but that's what i saw :P

At 11/24/06 03:42 AM, mcfucklesthedog wrote: Heheh, sorry for whoring this image. I'm just so proud of it, though I might have overdone the shininess :3

Elgin.... Illinois?

At 11/26/06 05:15 AM, DoomyCheese wrote: How do I make it zoom in on a certain part of my flash?

like fuzz said. It works the with opposite if you make te rectangle bigger than you're actually expanding the area it covers, since there's work area inside the rectangle it will look like you zoomed out, Similarly if you make the v-cam smaller, it's covering less space and it will make everything look bigger. just remeber the that what you see in the borders of the stage is what will up the entire stage

Seymour Butts

* There is 1 person in the U.S. named Seymour Butts.

I love this thing

lol

* There are 0 people in the U.S. named Wade Fulp.
* While both names you entered were found in our database, neither was common enough to make it likely that someone in the U.S. has that name.

There are 4,074. My last named is the most popular one is the U.S 3,017,684 have my last name.

NEARING COMPLETION!

yep it's true. got just some fine tuneing with the first part and the tweens and to add whatever pops into my head lol. Gotta start looking into ways of compressing the file size which has piled up to a fair amount. Also gonna try to find some way for the beginning to have a more "sweeping camera effect" how was everyone's thanksgiving?

At 11/23/06 12:20 AM, Jimtopia wrote: DUDE I GOT 5TH PLACE FOR DAILY AWARDS

haha, it's like a little kid in a toy store.

this is the Best I GOT. I Worked For About a Month on This and I'm So Tired. Plz Listen To It.
A mixture of real instruments software loops and instruments, and some syths from Garageband that I threw in as an afterthought. It's nice knowing I have both real instruments, Sony Acid Pro, and Garageband to work with

HIBERNIOR HIBERNUS CRAZY IRISH DANCE TRANCE (aka the Best I Got)

weekend update:

Good news: Finished the end sequence
Bad news: quite a bit to do.

UPDATE 11/18/06

Survey
Had sex recently like in the past month.
Painful urethra passage and copious amounts of pus coming out?
15-24 years old.

If the above is true though of course the last part is not a limit but a probability, then you sir have
GONNORHEA!

At 11/18/06 10:25 PM, geohunter wrote: this guy named sinister keeps submiting newgrounds hate flashes.. i cant blow whistle on it ass it doesn't break any rules.. his comments say stuff like "fuck Wade" and "Fuck Newgrounds" . the administration needs to do something about this.

You can whistle one of them since their the same thing.

At 11/18/06 10:33 PM, DarkMana wrote: Fortunately, a user can only submit two movies a day, and I'm sure that crap will be blammed

Actually that's not very likely cuz the flash is pretty good. Seriously the only difference between this and a flash that gets a 3.9/5 is the title.

I was going to leave this in the reveiw I might as post it here. Here is some missing information for the audio. Sorry I couldn't find where most of the music is from

"Communications Disruption can only mean one thing" Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace

"Shut the F*** up fat man, this ain't none of your god damn business" Pulp Fiction

couldn't find the scream but it sounded braveheartish or scarfacish

The Song Weird Al does for the touch myself parody is "Polka Your Eyes Out"

"I feel like I'm taking Crazy Pills" Zoolander

Wow! That clip with the heavy metal band screaming incoherently should be easy to find.

"Our shenanigans are cheeky and fun...." Super Troopers

"Hi I'm here to tell you mike nelson is innocent, mike nelson is 200% F***ing innocent..." The huge censorships is a clips from "Mystery Science Theater 3000: Agent for H.A.R.M"

"Why does it hurt when I pee" from "Why does it hurt when I pee?" by Frank Zappa

"Malibu Nights" Malibu Nights (Secret Track) by Tenacious D

don't got em you gonna die

hallelujah teh weekend. God it's been a long week. I'm gonna try to finish this week if not next week.

Boggled Minds

It's my only auido without a review