3,942 Forum Posts by "D2Kvirus"
At 1/3/09 02:18 PM, zoolrule wrote:
Give me one thing. ONE FUCKING THING. they earn from bombing civilians. They only lose when Palestinians die, because of you. And Sarai. And bcdemon. Because people like you exist.
Simple: it's classic terror tactics to target civilians. From the Blitz, to Shock & Awe, to the Lebanon skirmishes of a couple of years ago, the aim is smash the morale of the citizens and civillians of the place with which you are warring/bullying.
Yes, people like me exist: people who don't parrot the Israeli party line and, when there's something they can't explain away, start responsed with terms like "fucking idiot." Yourself and Snicp are looking remarkably snug in that role right now.
At 1/3/09 11:26 AM, KemCab wrote: Soon the Greeks will have to bring the army in.
Then they will quell the violence, create a bloodbath, or incite more violence.
Or note that the rioting stopped a week or so ago. It probably went on longer due to the attempt to say it was a ricochet rather than a direct shot, which is guaranteed to open a few wounds that aren't healed (yet nobody in the UK appreciated the irony, as it was getting increasingly Menezesesque at that point).
At 1/3/09 12:40 PM, Snicp wrote:
what of the stupidest posts in this topic
every country has the right to defend it self, if some country was sending quasams
for 8 years to one of your cities how will you feel? exactly, they attacked Gaza not because
they want some entertainment but because they don't have a choice
I'd say this was one of the stupidest posts in this topic: complete denial that Israel seem to conveniently find excuses to regularly bomb Palestine, Gaza, the West Bank and having a conventient devil to point at, be it the PLO, Fatah, Hamas, Lebanon, or whoever.
Israel defends itself by launching indiscriminate rocket attacks wherever, and doing so when there is no Western government sitting so that they can do so without anyone being able to react on the day, therefore giving them free reign to mete out as much death and destruction as they see fit. And that constitutes as "defending themselves"?
Tell me, does landgrabbing settlements throughout the refion also constitute "protecting themselves" as, obviously, they're finding place for their people to reside rather than, say, blatantly provoking their opponents and knowing their opponents are those painted in the unsympathetic light across the Western media?
And are you telling me that Israel didn't have a choice whenever and wherever they deployed tanks through Palestinian settlements with the flimsiest excuses but maximum damage and insult doled out?
I say people need to move away from the image of Israel as the victims of the piece, and you prove how unwilling people are to do so.
Anyone noticed this thread is 2 1/2 years old, and still the world is content to look the other way continually whenever Israel decide to blow up some other part of the neighbourhood?
The fact is Israel's recent actions were carried out for two, highly cynical reasons:
1.) Most governments are on their Christmas break, allowing Israel a headstart in blowing up whomever they please.
2.) Because history shows that they are continually allowed to act however they please, with little (if any) repurcussions. And that the West will continually lie for Israel.
Back when the natiopn was formed, and they started to annex areas to expand their borders, more should have been done to stop them from actions that would cause two probelsm: infuriate their neighbours (who aren't keen to have them there from the outset), and to prevent future generations of politicised Zionism knowing they can act almost with impunity. But it wasn't. Instead, arms were supplied under the banner of "aid", and nuclear armament was provided - and the person who broke the story that Israel were manufacturing their own wasn't arrested from exile in Italy, but abducted in the night.
The issue is no discourse can begin on how to manage Israel whilst the illusion of Israel being victims is being conjoured time and again. Perhaps at one time, it had weight, but not for the past couple of decades.
At 12/30/08 04:31 AM, HeavyTank wrote:At 12/28/08 11:23 AM, D2Kvirus wrote:"Protecting themselves", apparently..
One question remains (as it did with with the widespread riots in Italy in late 2007) - what the fuck were the police doing firing their weapons in the first place?
Considering it is more likely that the shot wasn't a ricochet from a warning shot, but a direct shot (i, what you meant to say was "Violating numerous rules and regulations about the discharging of police issue firearms" or, to put it more bluntly, "Comitting an act of homicide."
In other words, the fact that Greek police were so quick to fire their weapons in the first place when being pelted with stones is a good reason for people to get pissed of en masse, especially if they're prone to doing it.Well listen, there were 2 policemen being pursued by 32 angry men, what would you do?Show your badge and scream "FREEZE!"?
Considering they were driving their patrol car at the time for the shooting, how about driving away?
At 12/29/08 02:15 AM, heroicspatula wrote:
We have rules against weapons, like any other school. I think ours is unique in the fact that it expressly forbids; lasers, spring sticks, ballistic knives, nunchucks, shurikens, kusari-gamas, and (i don't know why) cannonballs.
Frankly, if somebody could carry a cannonball into school, they should get a sports scholarship on the spot. And if they managed to build a working cannon...
At 12/23/08 10:11 PM, nonameowns wrote: This year, new policy on the stairways. The left stairway is only for up direction while the right is only for down direction. New principle said it's for safety reason. Pretty bullshit and add more time to walk to class.
They still have to legislate common courtesy? Man, that's lame.
I have to say my school's policy on what to teach in Religious Education left a lot to be desired. What we were taught in five years was:
* Jews were victims of the Holocaust
* Women can't touch the Koran
* Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism exist
The fact you can get a more rounded education from reading Wikipedia for half an hour isn't an advertisment for a balanced and/or useful curriculum. It isn't particularly good for understanding non-Christian faiths, either...
At 12/27/08 11:00 PM, Proteas wrote: Okay, everyone, I have an announcement to make;
CHRISTMAS IS OVER, PLEASE QUIT FLOODING THE WAL-MARTS NOW AND RETURN TO YOUR NORMAL ROUTINES.
Hey, we've got five days to gouge whatever's left at Woolworths. I'm taking the counter, light fittings and some floor tiles. A tenner should cover it...
At 12/11/08 06:38 AM, Austrian-Mats wrote: Well, bad news to all you communist/anarchist wackos out there:
Apperantly, the little commie was killed by a ricochet, and not by a direct shot.
One question remains (as it did with with the widespread riots in Italy in late 2007) - what the fuck were the police doing firing their weapons in the first place?
In other words, the fact that Greek police were so quick to fire their weapons in the first place when being pelted with stones is a good reason for people to get pissed of en masse, especially if they're prone to doing it.
At 12/19/08 10:12 AM, ThePretenders wrote: I would never bow to another human being. What makes the Queen so important and better than anyone else?
D'ya think it might be because she's a Monarch?
At 12/20/08 11:38 AM, MickTheChampion wrote: Can anyone defending the Royal Family please tell me why you feel they're superior to you?
I can only presume it's for Religious reasons.
Two very good reasons:
1.) They have more houses than me, and they're a lot bigger than mine.
2.) Because I don't have an annual speech to the nation vetted by the Prime Minister for the last decade, just in case I call for a coup d'etat or generally make the person running the country into the ground look worse. If I did, the number of blogs on my Myspace would nosedive.
Why? Because the line "You put your right hand in, your right hand out" is a call for widespread fisting?
At 12/16/08 08:34 AM, Brick-top wrote: I bet no one in this thread can give me a logical reason to have the British monarchy other than national pride (which is hardly something to be proud of)
You mean like I already did?
The Royal Family are, in a time of crisis, a rallying point far more than the Government are (for lack of a better word).
Personally, I feel sorry for the Queen at times. Not least because of having to sit through the Royal Variety Performance every year, or having her Christmas Speech vetted by Gordon Brown so he can cherry pick the parts he can use to make himself sound better, but because she was visited once a week for ten years by both Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.
The fact that she cannot be bullshitted, and stood up to Thatcher trying to pull rank, indicates that she is a lot smarter and more in touch than she is given credit for. The same can be said for Charles, too, in all honesty - yes, he can be a pillock, but his head is screwed on and he has a lot of sense.
At 12/14/08 10:29 AM, Conspiracy3 wrote:At 12/14/08 10:06 AM, D2Kvirus wrote:Well then not meritocracist, but why is there no word for someone who believes in meritocracy?At 12/13/08 04:19 PM, Conspiracy3 wrote: I wouldn't bow before her. I am a supporter of meritocracy (Why is it that there is no word for that? Why isn't meritocracist a word?) I am against anyone being born into power without having to work their ass off to get it.I'd say because people would misread it and focus on the last six letters of the word.
Google, bordom and curiosity came up with this word: meritocrat, as in:
1.) an advocate of meritocracy
2.) a person who has authority allegedly based on ability
Unfortunatly, the term "Equal Opportunist" hasn't been defined accordingly as yet...
At 12/14/08 11:05 AM, HeavyTank wrote:At 12/13/08 02:19 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:They did..believe me, they did...
Only it did - they didn't have five-day riots planned months in advance, you know.
Having dated a Greek, I can state quite categorically that orginisation is not one of their strongpoints (along with punctuality, and repelling invasions).
At 12/13/08 06:18 PM, RubberTrucky wrote:
I think people like to blame their government for corruption and all cause they need someone to accuse for all their misery. And it is very unlikely that police officers can randomly shoot people without getting sacked.
Not one officer involved in the De Menezes shooting was disciplined in any way, let alone sacked. Indeed, several involved in the operation have since been promoted.
At 12/13/08 04:05 PM, Conspiracy3 wrote:
1. What's wrong with porn?
I can't be filed under "Freedom of Speech", as there is no speech involved.
Freedom of Speech can be used in cases such as the attempts to ban Lady Chatterly's Lover as it was the printed word, Hustler magazine was not and is not. There's nothing wrong with porn, but to say it's allowed by the First Amendment is laughable.
2. Where exactly do you draw the line between junkmail and regular mail. Besides if you use an email account from a good company (Gmail works well), you use spam filters, and you don't give out your email to random websites (or use a different email when you have to) junk mail isn't a problem.
It's easy to draw the line between junk mail and regular mail: junk mail can be specified as anything sent t you that got your information from Third Parties, and if you can prove you ticked the box saying you don't wnat your details passed on, therefore you can say it is junk. If you tick to mark an e-mail address as unsafe or as a phishing scam, it is junk.
3. What is cruel and unusual and what isn't is up for the supreme court to decide.
Funny how people hide behind the USSC for their narrow definitions for one thing, eh?
At 12/13/08 07:57 PM, Memorize wrote:
I say we just go back to hanging.
They didn't have a problem with it.
As long as they did it properly, yes. Natural rope of the correct length based on weight and height, done.
At 12/13/08 04:19 PM, Conspiracy3 wrote: I wouldn't bow before her. I am a supporter of meritocracy (Why is it that there is no word for that? Why isn't meritocracist a word?) I am against anyone being born into power without having to work their ass off to get it.
I'd say because people would misread it and focus on the last six letters of the word.
It's only expected at formal introductions, although I believe you can opt out of it.
It's the same with Oxbridge graduations - you have to kneel to receive your scroll, but you can opt out.
At 12/13/08 01:51 PM, aninjaman wrote: What excatly is wrong with our current constitution.
When it can be argued that porn and junk mail can be considered "Freedom of Speech", there's an issue there. And how the electric chair didn't constitute as "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" baffles me.
At 12/6/08 01:37 AM, mikailus wrote: So what's the point of keeping them?
The monarchy are sort of a beacon for the Brits - it's nigh-on impossible to get people to stand behind their Government as their viewed as vessels of corruption and self-interest, and someone that can be voted out easily (which isn't necessarily true, in actual fact), but the monarchy are a pillar which props up what is considered English/British (delete as you see fit) and has done for centuries.
To put it another way, the monarchy have been done away with before, by Oliver Cromwell in the aftermath of the Civil War. Yet with Cromwell's death, The People did not want a continuation of the Long Parliament, but a return of the Monarchy. True, Cromwell's dictatorial leanings may have influenced the decision somewhat, but "monarchy" conjours images of greatness and history, "government" doesn't.
At 12/10/08 10:57 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
Yes..and this means that the rioting would happen in any case, and that the death of the boy had nothing to do with it..
Only it did - they didn't have five-day riots planned months in advance, you know.
You need a spark to start a riot, and the killing was a perfect catalyst for it because it's an example of why Greeks have a lot of ill-feeling toward the police (see also: the riots in Italy just over a year ago, in a remarkably similar case).
Widespread ill-feeling of the police + an act to magnify this feeling = riots
Would the LA Riots have happened if Rodney King didn't get his head kicked in? Highly doubtful.
The same goes with strikes: In the UK we're piss poor at it, but in France the whole country is orginised and that gets attention, as you can't miss it, and that can force the hand that signs.
At 12/10/08 03:33 PM, His-Penis-is-on-Fire wrote:
Okay, so whites got some racist jokes directed at them.
Black people got enslaved.
I don't fucking think those two even out.
How about you read between the lines: if programming aimed at whites made racist comments about blacks, they'd be yanked off the air ASAP and those responsible will probably never work in TV again. But when it's the other way around, nobody acts.
Those even out, because they're the exact same scenario - is playing the slavery card the new playing the race card or something?
An intyeresting example has just come up: Sol Campbell played the race card against Tottenham supporters during a game a few months ago, and there was widespread coverage of the incident with police involvment. At the end of it, the findings had to be shown to act, and it became apparent the chants weren't racist at all - homophobic, yes, but as Sol Campbell isn't gay he had no leg to stand on. Yet Tottenham have to act anyway, due to a black man not being racially abused.
At 12/3/08 04:41 PM, Vozec wrote:
plaster, no urination, THAT SUCKS!
It does when you get suspended for sparing your trousers a soaking.
At 12/10/08 10:28 AM, Imperator wrote: Does anyone think this has something to do with the French riots as well?
Or that there's something in the European water streams that's making their youth riot like this?
It just seems like we've heard this all before.
It seems to me that in certain parts of continental Europe (France, Italy and Greece in particular) they're more inclined to go ron strike or riot in order to vent their frustrations and to make a point to those in charge.
In England, meanwhile, we're more likely to ignore it and toe the party line.
Cult, and their members can be described as a bunch of cults.
I think I spent that right, anyway...
Compare & Contrast
England, 2005: Jean Charles de Menezes is gunned down by the police. The police put forward several cock and bull stories saying he was a terrorist, he ran from them when they said for him to stop, that he was wearing a padded jacket, and that he jumped over the ticket barrier. Turns out he wasn't a terrorist, nor did he ever run or jump the ticket barrier, and was wearing a denim jacket. The general public constantly defend the actions. The police constantly try and justify their actions by citing it was protecting the public, by shooting a member of the public seven times in the head from point blank range (four shots missed - how?!?), having tracked them for over a mile as he walked and caught a bus without once trying to apprehend him. The officers involved in the operation have all since received promotions within the Metropolitan Police, whilst Met Police Chief Sir Ian Blair stayed in his job due to plenty of protection from the Blair government (no relation) and the subsequent Brown government. At an inquest in 2008, the jury are instructed that they cannot give a verdict of Unlawful Killing.
Greece, 2008: Greek police shoot dead a student. Almost immediately, there is widespread rioting in Athens, Thessaloniki, Patras, Komotini, Ionnina, Trikala, Piraeus, Larissa, Volos, as well as on the islands of Crete, Corfu and Samos. The government express regret at the actions immediately. The officer has been arrested on a charge of murder.
One dumb one at my school was a Staff Only Door, which the staff could use but the pupils couldn't, regardless of the weather. I always wondered how many cases of pneumonia could've been avoided...
There were countless dumb things: boys with pierced ears were only allowed to wear studs - which you had to cover with a plaster, if it was cold you could only wear a sweatshirt or jumper if it was black or grey, or hand it over (again, pneumonia), all boys toilets were locked after school whilst girls want (a friend of mine was suspended as he was dying for a piss, and had to go against the school gate or piss himself), I got a detention once as somebody punched me in the back of the head and I called him a motherfucker (swearing worse than random acts of violence?!?) - shit like that, in other words...
