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Response to: Americans: The Jews of the World Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/7/03 10:33 PM, BaKsHi wrote: Jews are not that hated.

Read the article. We're talking historically, not currently.

Response to: Americans: The Jews of the World Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

I'm not saying that I completely agree with this article, but it does point out some interesting parallels.

Response to: gun control Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/6/03 07:35 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Both countries allow the right to bear arms and the citizens in each country abuse that right.

But once again, it boils down to the fact that a gun is a tool. America allows guns and they are kept for personal self defense. Palestine encourages the arming of everyone with offensive/assault weapons, even children, in order to conduct a guerilla war and terrorism.

It's a difference between allowing and encouraging as well as between defense and offense.

Response to: Fire Crackas? Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/7/03 08:31 PM, TheShrike wrote: With or without medical benefits, sir?

Please explain.

Americans: The Jews of the World Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

Americans: The Jews of the World
By Daniel G. Jennings
Frontpage Magazine

The popular 20th Century Jewish American novelist Edna Ferber once wrote "the United States seems to be the Jews among nations. It is resourceful adaptable, maligned, envied and feared... its peoples are travelers and wanderers by nature, moving shifting, restless."

Sadly enough, recent events have proven that Ferber was right. The Jewish people and the United States have a lot in common, both are successful, resourceful, adaptable, highly creative, inventive and hated. Like the Jews, Americans are increasingly the objects of hatred, fear, jealousy, bigotry, prejudice, violence and terror from all corners of the globe and the political spectrum.

Full column at http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=7444

Response to: Fire Crackas? Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

Mexicans are a people with a lot of nationalistic pride. Most don't want to live in the United States, they just come for the money. I think the solution is re-instituting the old temporary resident workers programs. Under that former system, workers that wanted to come to the U.S. could be issued green cards very easily. Most of the work done was agricultural; They came for the season, earned their money and then returned to Mexico where the low cost of living meant that they could live well until the next season. The farms that hired the workers provided housing and meals.

As for stealing jobs, immigrants don't, mostly. They do the work that most people here wouldn't even think about, and they do it cheaper and better, too. I'd prefer 100 hard working immigrants to a dozen lazy citizens.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/7/03 12:03 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: I miss the old mst3k, but not the new one. When they got rid of the creator, Joel, I knew it had sold out. Joel was the only thing that was good about mst3k, and when he left, I couldnt stand it anymore.

Joel never left, he just went behind the scenes. Him and Mike were writers and co-creators of the show.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 7th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/6/03 11:56 PM, stafffighter wrote: Does anyone else miss mystery science theater 3000?

Yes, very much. The re-runs are still on Sci-fi channel on Saturday morning, though.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/6/03 11:28 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Oooops, seems like this dude called Tom Fulp beat you to it.

You're right. That no-talent hack stole my idea!

Response to: L33T: Outmoded or Integral Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

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Maybe we just need more obscure l33t?

Response to: US's a bitch. Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/6/03 09:56 AM, TheAnarchyPenguin wrote:
I don't think I've ever agree with the Commander before, and most of the time I've found him to be annoying (especially the name) but he's right.

What is that everyone seems to have with my name, El-Disorganized-Avian?

Response to: US's a bitch. Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/6/03 02:40 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: LOL! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID WITH AFGHANISTAN!

If you haven't noticed, we're still there. They're working on a compromise government of the various tribes right now.

These things take time, so don't get too impatient.

Response to: Rebublicans Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

Why are we bothering to argue a flaming rant?

Response to: gun control Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/6/03 02:33 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: I'm saying Palestine and Israel aren't that different from America. An overwhelming majority of citizens in each country loves their gun, god and government way too much.

But that's a point for a different topic. It's not really related to this one.


It's always fascinating to observe how a True Believer reacts to a sudden, unexpected and unanswerable threat to his fundamental ideological underpinnings.

Or how and Arrogant Young Leftist must try to belittle and pidgeonhole anyone who disagrees into make-believe stereotypes so they can write-off any opposing viewpoints as fanatical.

Response to: Political Compass Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 1.64

Tony Blair, here I come!

I was nearly dead center last time.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

I'm starting the "Everyone on NG club".

You're all members already, so don't bother putting anything in your sig about it.

Response to: Possible troop deployment? Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

Taylor was offered asylum in Nigeria, but rejected.

I think that Liberia may be the exception to the African political madness as far as the U.S. is concerned. We could get involved without incurring another Somalia because they respect and look up to us.

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For nearly all of its history since declaring statehood in 1847, Liberia has looked to America as its godfather and guide. Even now, Liberians almost universally revere and respect the United States.

Even many of the drugged and drunk teenagers who do the bulk of the fighting for Taylor and the two rebel groups battling to oust him say they yearn for U.S. soldiers in the streets to end the undisciplined skirmishes that frequently seem as likely to result in friendly fire deaths as enemy killings.

"We welcome the Americans. We see them as our role models. The process will be peaceful as long as their mandate is not to take sides," said a soldier at a Monrovia roadblock, a Kalashnikov strapped across his chest. The soldier didn't give his name.

Zayzay Kollie, a 41-year-old Monrovia resident, said Liberian factions would respect a U.S. military presence on the ground: "I don't foresee a situation where any side will unduly confront an American force coming here."

-from Liberia looks to role-model U.S. for help

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Response to: US's a bitch. Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/6/03 02:16 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Ousting Saddam from power is a good thing (although the U.S. gave him a blind eye concerning his gassing of Kurds 12 years ago) but occupying the country is not.

So we walk away, turn our backs and leave unfinished business in Iraq?

Another thug will muscle his way to the top if we do that. We've got to get things back on track before we leave, or we'll have another situation like this a few decades from now.

Response to: gun control Posted July 6th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/5/03 11:05 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: "A well-regulated Militia (Hamas) being necessary to the security of a free State (Palestine), the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.(see picture above)"

What's the difference between American fundamentalism and Islamic fundamentalism?

You're comparing apples to oranges. This is completely irrelevant and out of context.

America guarantees it's people the right to bear arms. It's a right, you can choose to exercise it or not. Currently, we aren't experiencing any civil war or conflict at home and we have a well-organized, professional military, so you don't see armed militias.

Palestine has little regular military, is currently in a state of ongoing war and thus uses Islamic extremism to urge it's population to arm men, women and even children and go become suicide bombers and terrorists. If you don't know what I mean, just listen to some of the regular hate-rants that are put out every Friday there.

So what exactly are you saying? State-sponsored terrorism can be solved by gun control? By whom?

You're making very little sense and seem to be grasping at straws and irrelevancies.

Response to: gun control Posted July 5th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/5/03 10:51 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: "A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Now you're throwing Islamic extremism into the mix. Make some rational and equal comparisons for a change.

Response to: gun control Posted July 5th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/5/03 10:27 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Don't they have policemen in America? Besides, how it will affect the normal populace much harder if those with a criminal record aren't allowed to carry guns? Johnny Lawful will have his guns and rifles while Johnny Dopedealer won't.

It depends on what level of gun control we're talking about here. Now you're saying you'd allow people to have guns and rifles?


That explains the 40 deaths by gun in Japan annualy compared to the 12 000 in America. Oops, I guess it doesn't.

The reasons are more complex than more gun control vs. less gun control. We're talking about different cultures, demographics and socio-economic conditions in comparing the U.S. to Japan.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 5th, 2003 in Politics

See Snooble for the vote on Bakshi.

Response to: gun control Posted July 5th, 2003 in Politics

At 7/4/03 12:12 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Less guns available = less guns in the hands of criminals. Look at countries like Japan and Australia. It's that simple.

Stricter gun laws may decrease the number of guns in the hands of criminals by a certain percentage, but it will inevitably hit non-criminals much harder. Do you really want a disarmed populace vs. a still armed and dangerous criminal element?

Thinking that criminals will not find ways of arming themselves, including illegal guns, is unrealistic.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 5th, 2003 in Politics

So Bum, you're really just starting your own Politics Crew?

Response to: So whats your vote Posted July 4th, 2003 in Politics

For — from US

Response to: The Perfect President Posted July 3rd, 2003 in Politics

At 7/3/03 11:27 PM, MALforpresident wrote: we need somebody who can solve things diplomatically, like Clinton

Like Clinton? Like suddenly deciding to shoot missiles into the desert and bomb pharmaceutical factories without even consulting Congress?

Clinton who put us in Bosnia? Clinton who turned down Sudan's offer of a captured Bin Laden when asked? Clinton who put us in Somalia?

Response to: gun control Posted July 3rd, 2003 in Politics

At 7/3/03 10:51 PM, xderangedxuncagedx wrote: ...Or you could blame those making guns available to criminals. Just a thought.

So we ban guns to everybody? Is that the solution?

No. If criminals want guns, they're going to get
guns. It's no surprise that most weapons used in crimes are illegal to begin with.

[sarcasm]
I'm sure that if we snatch all the guns out of the hands of regular, non-criminal citizens, that'll really affect the criminals!
[/sarcasm]

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 3rd, 2003 in Politics

At 7/3/03 10:44 PM, xderangedxuncagedx wrote: Have I offended you or your flag?

This has nothing to do with my "flag". Trying to blame everything on patriotism and intentionally finding "blind patriotism" in every person that disagrees with you is just pathetic.

Response to: Possible troop deployment? Posted July 3rd, 2003 in Politics

The cause is America's historical ties as defender of Liberia and the fact that the Liberian people are demanding American intervention. It's a nasty civil war that President Taylor has already lost, but won't admit it. He only controls a portion of the capital city, Monrovia.

Pres. Bush didn't demand that he step down from power or military action would be taken, he gave a piece of advice from one leader to another. Taylor doesn't seem to know when it's time to go because he's only hurting his own people by staying.

This civil war is over, with or without American troops.

Response to: gun control Posted July 3rd, 2003 in Politics

At 7/3/03 10:10 PM, xderangedxuncagedx wrote: Did anyone stop to think that your average citizen is just your everage citizen until he decides to solve some problems with a gun that he bought for protecting him and his family?

You're putting the blame for someone's actions on the gun, rather than the person. Remember, the gun is only an inanimate object, a tool. You shouldn't blame a gun for a crime, you must blame the criminal.