2,100 Forum Posts by "Ceratisa"
Here, there are other articles
OâEUTMMara told CNN on Tuesday night that if prosecutors start bringing up ZimmermanâEUTMs past, âEUoethen it really brings in what Trayvon Martin brings to the table, all of his violent acts that we know about and some of the fighting that he was involved in.âEU
"In testimony Tuesday, prosecutors tried to pick apart the statements of a Sanford police detective who was a prosecution witness but gave testimony that legal analysts said helped the defense.
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda asked the judge to strike from the record a statement that Detective Chris Serino made Monday in which he said he found ZimmermanâEUTMs account of how he got into a fight with Martin to be credible.
De la Rionda argued the statement was improper because one witness isnâEUTMt allowed to give an opinion on the credibility of another witness. Defense attorney Mark OâEUTMMara argued it was proper because it was SerinoâEUTMs job to decide whether Zimmerman was telling the truth."
Nelson told jurors to disregard the statement.
Surprise
Yes.
The prosecution actually opened up Zimmerman's past, which was mentioned after the defense was denied use of TM's. This was mentioned somewhere in one of the articles I linked I think.Well then go find it.
You are listening right now, right?
I guess it wasn't important for the law.
At 7/10/13 03:47 PM, Feoric wrote:At 7/10/13 03:44 PM, Ceratisa wrote: So known and confirmed school violence and suspensions, and typed messages to a secure phone are hearsay? Why exactly is that the case?The suspension part isn't hearsay, that's just character evidence. Which the defense really shouldn't have (and didn't, for the most part) try to play around with, because then the jury can hear about Zimmerman assaulting a police officer.
You mean the out of uniform officer (or was it undercover I forget) that he pushed off his younger friend? Is that what you consider assault?
The prosecution actually opened up Zimmerman's past, which was mentioned after the defense was denied use of TM's. This was mentioned somewhere in one of the articles I linked I think.
You can't prove it was him because you can't prove he was the only one who knew the password and had access to it. It's still inadmissible as hearsay in the eyes of the court and has been for years.
So known and confirmed school violence and suspensions, and typed messages to a secure phone are hearsay? Why exactly is that the case?
That's not indicative of a bias against the defense. There is a lot of precedent for text messages being considered inadmissible on the basis of it being considered hearsay. Text messages have been inadmissible for a while now, now just during this trial unless there is a non hearsay purpose.
Some were withheld and didn't you listen yesterday? The phone itself had a password to get into it, mentions specifically addressing TM about fighting and him talking about fighting. The chat program on his phone was a program designed to hide his messages, which was also locked and password protected. How is that not proof it came from TM?
You would need his phone, both passwords, know to look for the program, then respond to texts as someone else when the texts were specifically addressing TM.
And the Expert later said he believes he had enough in his system to effect him at the time. Yes, remember I'm listening to the trail. Didn't you see the Judge sustain an objection on the defense that the prosecution itself opened the door to?
She came back saying his texts about street fighting, swinging at people, illegal purchase of a firearm as irrelevant to his character in this case.
The expert continues to disagree with Camar, but I guess he's wrong too.
Entertainment capital of the world, in general my favorite thing is called the Bill of Rights.
At 7/10/13 02:08 PM, Jackho wrote:At 7/10/13 12:40 PM, mrpwnzer wrote: Plus wasn't it standalone? I never bought it myself, but I plan on it later on in life.Yeah, it was standalone. I've got a physical copy of it. And just because it's an expansion doesn't mean it has to be much worse than the original game, not at all.
What do you feel was much worse?
At 7/10/13 01:31 PM, Camarohusky wrote:At 7/10/13 01:04 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: House Republicans push to slash IRS budget by 24 percent, cite the fact that they're still paying taxesThere, FTFY
Do you have evidence to show that Republicans dodge taxes more? Many of the wealthiest members of congress are Democrats.
Sorry Camar you keep parroting your opinions, for those not trained in grappling techniques the top is certainly a position of dominance.
It doesn't matter if Zimmerman followed TM he had every legal right to do so, it does not matter that Zimmerman was armed, he had every legal right to be armed.
Zimmerman's weight is much less important then his physical condition which was significantly lower then TM's. Combine this with TM having a longer reach then Zimmerman. The fact that TM was a street fighter so he was more experienced in a fight. OR we can bring up the fact that TM should not have been alarmed by an individual in gated community who had a vehicle inside this community.
You keep saying that the injuries weren't serious and he was screaming for help for how long? Unless you think the guy punching him was screaming for help? Because the police disagree with you on that stance. The police still do not feel that Zimmerman's use of the firearm was dangerous or reckless as well.
OR how about the fact that was testified by an expert that Zimmerman sustained multiple blows according to his injuries.
I'm so glad that you can read the future during an altercation that took less then a minute to escalate to head pounding/multiple blows to the head, would not prove fatal.
By the way "Where you from" doesn't mean where are you from, nor does "get off" mean get off if that was even said.
Judge is so openly anti Zimmerman it isn't even funny.
She won't admit evidence like the fact that he smoked pot unless it would have effected him at the time.
Further investigation by ME confirms it MAY have had an effect. Entry of drug use into evidence denied.
So TM may have had enough pot to effect him, one of the side effects of Marijuana is paranoia. We also know he fights and talked about it to his friends, and was looking to acquire a firearm through a friend.
All these facts could be used to paint a much more accurate picture of TM and they are ignored. EVEN AFTER they were withheld from the defense.
At 7/10/13 11:34 AM, Jackho wrote:At 7/10/13 04:38 AM, Jester wrote: I've always kind of regretted not getting Undead Nightmare.Undead Nightmare wasn't even half as good as the main game anyway, so no biggie.
DLC isn't supposed to be? And it was fine imho.
At 7/10/13 11:42 AM, sweet21 wrote:At 7/10/13 05:19 AM, PixelDude12345 wrote:Isn't that a text based adventure game or something? From what I saw anyway, all I got was text.At 7/10/13 12:11 AM, sweet21 wrote: And Persona 4 Golden on the Vita. Also known as the only game worth buying on the Vita.Nope :)
No, look up Persona 4, it is mainly story based though.
At 7/9/13 11:30 PM, Eddmario wrote: Got a copy of Final Fantasy X-2 practically brand new the other day for $8. Unfortunately, the only console that can play it is at my dad's, which I won't be at until next week.
At my mom's I'm playing the Gamecube version of Animal Crossing again.
My suggestion, once you get the Dark Knight dress sphere, use it.
Which is why we've already brought up concrete and according to Florida self defense one has to believe they are in danger, correct?
And according to numerous self defense ruling severity of injuries did not come into play when determining if an individual felt their life was in danger.
I believe we've already discussed unarmed men ... rushing at someone was enough to allow for a legal cause of lethal self defense in numerous circumstances.
In the state of Florida fists are considered a deadly weapon, if I'm not mistaken.
Could you explain to me where the state has scored big points, ya know since you firmly feel it isn't over.
At 7/9/13 10:26 PM, Feoric wrote:At 7/9/13 08:01 PM, Ceratisa wrote: Yes I have, and before when the prosecution was presenting its case we had people who weren't there.What do you mean "weren't there?" Only two people were there, and one of them is dead. Do you have a problem with the defense calling ballistics experts to the stand or something?
I mean character witnesses or people like the mother's saying it was their son. Or the people who arrived after the altercation had occurred. Mr. Good saw part of the confrontation.
A medical expert who testified that the DNA evidence on TM's shirt had not been properly preserved and thus it could damage his ability to properly collect it.Both the prosecution and defense agree that Zimmernman's gun was against the clothing when fired. It changes nothing, since the defense did not prove that the evidence was mishandled or as far as I know even attempt to get it thrown out of the courtroom. Earlier in the trial there was a biological analyst that testified that wet clothing can possibly remove DNA evidence, which could possibly explain the lack of DNA on Trayvon's hoodie, so that's probably where the defense was heading with that.
Jeantel, who didn't actually say anything damning about ZimmermanThats not true. Her testimony paints Zimmerman as the instigator of the fight.
Was that before or after her numerous lies? and more speficially she just mentioned get off, and TM was the one who went back according to the texts, why did he go back?
, and her testimony was both inconsistent and questionable. (Proven to be lying on numerous occasions and then openly denied something she claimed TM said previously)
And finally Mr. Good who basically said TM was on top of Zimmerman and it appeared that TM was pummeling him.am I missing anyone important?Serino? Dr. Bao?
Serino testified that in this interview with Zimmerman that he was purposefully aggressive with Zimmerman in an attempt to force him to slip up. He mentioned he didn't feel there were any major changes during the course of the interview.
Dr. Bao was dishonest on the stand and decided to include or exlude certain facts that he had brought with him as notes. In addition to this he did not adequately preform his job (autopsy) if I recall because he didn't take the height of TM.
Neither of them were of course there, which was my point. But Dr. Bao is medical so he can be included in the expert area.. I guess.
Bao led the court through his autopsy report, testifying that the bullet was fired at an âEUoeintermediate range,âEU with the muzzle in âEUoeloose contactâEU with MartinâEUTMs clothing, and traveled a straight path from his chest to his back.
He also told the court there were three abrasions on Martin's left hand and testified that âEUoethis could have occurred two hours before he died, could have happened right after the shooting, on the way down to the ground, could have happened during the physical struggle.âEU
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/05/19303036-mothers-
testimony-opens-closes-day-in-zimmerman-trial?lite
So basically even though he was bias he still completely backed the defense
So 3 marks actually on TM's knuckles according to prosecution witness Dr. Bao.
i know it's young news but anyone else excited?
I won't buy it, I had to get it on PS3 because it wasn't on PC, it is a good game and precise shooting would be easier on a PC but, you know already have it.
So photos of a gun, texts referencing TM's desire to buy or sell a handgun from someone and, certain things were deleted others were left there.
In addition to this TM's phone is password protected.
update
so according to an expert the state's report of the contents of TM's phone was about 600 photos short. Other things were different as well, texts were missing as well.
At 7/9/13 07:30 PM, Feoric wrote:At 7/9/13 07:27 PM, Ceratisa wrote: Who is countering Zimmerman's story who was there to hear or see anything?Have you been watching the trial? Honest question. Like, actually watching the trial on HLN or a livestream.
Yes I have, and before when the prosecution was presenting its case we had people who weren't there. Who was confused about the actual age of the individuals. (referred to him as a boy like his younger photo linked in the media)
http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html Is what I'm using no commentary or breaks. (Twitter feed giving a break down but ignorable)
A medical expert who testified that the DNA evidence on TM's shirt had not been properly preserved and thus it could damage his ability to properly collect it.
Jeantel, who didn't actually say anything damning about Zimmerman, and her testimony was both inconsistent and questionable. (Proven to be lying on numerous occasions and then openly denied something she claimed TM said previously)
And finally Mr. Good who basically said TM was on top of Zimmerman and it appeared that TM was pummeling him.
am I missing anyone important?
The jury decides what evidence and whose stories they find credible.
Who is countering Zimmerman's story who was there to hear or see anything? Some have been proven to be completely incorrect, other than those, who is exactly telling the state's version?
Oh right also this
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57592866-504083/georg e-zimmerman-trial-trayvon-martin-was-on-top-of-zimmerman-whe n-teen-was-shot-gunshot-wound-expert-testifies/
In regards to affirmative defense isn't that considered a low burden of proof?
Before we even get to affirmative defense don't we specifically need Law Enforcement in regards to Flordia law to have evidence that contradicts Zimmerman's claim?
and why did no one bring up this?
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Can you point out to me where the state has proven beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman profiled and stalked TM eventually ending in an unjustified shooting?
Synonymous really, the outcome was the same. After 30 million people take to the streets you don't have many other options but to give them what they want, it's the rawest form of democracy. I agree with you tbh, all things considered over the past few years I think the Egyptian military has behaved pretty admerabely, they've kept relative peace without seeking to take advantage of power.
They aren't Synonymous at all, one would suggest a willing departure the other doesn't, and in this case Morsi's extremist followers are using violence because of his forced departure from the office.
WIN!Think of all the poor endangered guns who have now had their lives saved thanks to this bill! Great job on your priorities America!
And how does that hurt you? it saves money, it makes money and many firearms have historical significance.
evidence points to there was indeed a punch to the nose, and his injuries were consistent with at least 6 other blows.
Not much else for him to bring up prosecution didn't even want to do this.
