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At 4/6/14 05:56 AM, Xenomit wrote: I'm not necessarily anti-trendy, I just do me and if trends happen to grind against my opinions I don't change them to please people. I still voice them even if it seems extremely controversial, extremist, amoral, or generally dumb. And I have some pretty dumb opinions.

Sounds fair man, probably shouldn't have been so fast to judge you. Doing us is all anyone can do.

At 4/6/14 12:58 AM, Xenomit wrote: I don't know what this means

I think you're becoming an anti- trendy reactionary with a superiority complex and a love of getting a rise out of everyone.

At 4/5/14 04:52 PM, Painbringer wrote: I don't see any ads.

However, the scroll speed is extremely slow and jerky for me.

Ans it's only happening on this site.

I think I dun got malwared. Pls ignore my shit it wasn't showing up on fb or netflix so I assumed it was NG, but that may have been bogus.

If I died, I'm pretty sure no-one'd notice and definitely sure no-one would know. I'd most likely not make the papers.

The only depressing part about this is the people online who I like on NG could die and I'd never know. Which is pretty shit.

At 4/5/14 01:06 PM, 4761 wrote: I believe the moment you start ruining the lives of innocent people so the majority can survive better is the moment you become a cold-blooded villain trying to justify his atrocities by "the greater good" philosophy.

More to the point, the moment you start acting thusly in a democracy whilst lying to people about what you're doing is the moment you become a really unbelievably shitty leader. And the moment you start tolerating that, you've failed in your duties as a citizen who can say s/he participates in democracy.

At 4/5/14 02:57 PM, ChickenChips wrote: i use this addon called adblocker

Yeah, same, but I've had loads of things come up through adblocker on posts on the forum. Idk what it is, I'm just gonna reinstall chrome see if that helps.

If oil dependency justifies massive loss of life and billions of dollars of spending, let oil companies send their troops and spend their billions.

Also, if our oil dependency justifies such massive extra spending and destruction, it DEFINITELY justifies legal curbs on oil consumption and massive funding for alternative energy.

I feel like Xenomit is slowly becoming a Poxpower origins story.

Is it just me or are there suddenly a buttload of ads all over NG? Goddamnit, I'm a supporter and errythang.

Human is an arbitrary distinction. In practical terms, it varies a lot, but the definition tends to just be reasonably intellectual, compassionate, etc etc.

Also wtf is with the pic OP, you're really not helping yourself.

At 3/31/14 01:00 PM, Elitistinen wrote: I plan to get a small vaporizer sometime soon. I heard the air balloon one is better.

Volcano is undoubtedly the king of vaporisers, yeah, but below that a Magic Flight Launchbox is the closest thing you'll get to perfection, mayne. Should cost about $100, but that comes with lifetime warranty. That warranty means business too - I managed to fuck up the inside of mine by turning the weed with a screwdriver when I was high and damaging the heating system, and all I had to do was email the nicest customer service people I've ever spoken to a picture of the box and the serial number and they shipped me a free one (even though I freely admitted it was 100% due to me being a tard).

I cannot recommend Magic Flight enough. No smell at all and a discrete vaporiser means I often just get high in the library while I work on essays with no-one at all noticing yet. It also makes blazing about 3x more efficient than smoking in terms of a THC high, and the vaped weed can then be used in edibles with great ease (you don't have to treat the weed before hand either - the vaping's already broken down the fibrous bonds). So you get about 6x the high out of your weed, 2x the fun with zero cancer risk AND you can pretty much blaze anywhere. Takes some practice to use right, but honestly... Magic Flight is worth looking into bruh.

At 3/31/14 01:15 AM, Entice wrote:

Yeah that's pretty much what I meant. If you're a regular dude he doesn't smoke pot, there is literally no issue. If you're hatin', you're not gonna be much fun to hang with (a problem drugs probably won't solve).

And Xeno, my logic is less that drugs = fun, but more that drugs can be a source of fun. Whenever anyone has some kind of fun, you get haters. Usually, it'll be social malcontents with chips on their shoulder who want to put themselves above the society that they feel mistreated them. Other times, it'll be narcissists reacting to scorn from one or two members of a perceived ingroup or social conservatives who just enjoy getting self-righteous.

In this sense, drugs is no more a source of fun than other popularly hated things like rap music, internet memes, Southpark, videogames and Skrillex. I enjoy these vices too, but of course you'd see how ridiculous it would be to assume I'd think myself superior to someone who wasn't into them. I do consider myself superior to haters though, but that's hardly difficult.

At 3/31/14 12:09 AM, Xenomit wrote: My problem with people who use is mostly that they're so positive that they're superior, and then don't have the guts to directly say it.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but it sounds like you have an inferiority complex pal. And given everything you've just said, these seems like the most hypocritical thing you could possibly say...

The people who say that if you don't drink alcohol or do drugs you're a boring square, and that drugs are the only way you can have fun. Those people, which are a surprisingly large amount of the people who use, are the biggest reason I hate, with all my being, people who are fucking retarded enough to harm their body with something that provides a temporary boost of fun. Yeah, you can do it if you want to, I never asked anyone to stop, but that doesn't make it buttfucking retarded. Go ahead, destroy your liver with alcohol, rape your lungs and brain cells with inhaled drugs, fuck up your body with other shit, but if you're going to do it, at least have the balls to admit that you're doing it because in actuality, you're the one who can't have any fun. You're either incapable of having a shitload of fun without drugs, or are just too fucking terrible of a person to be able to enjoy life without being high off your ass all the time. Drug abusers are scum of the earth, and alcoholics are just good old fashioned idiots, and just because millions of people do it doesn't make it any less retarded.

Right... Drug abusers are scum of the earth... Not arms dealers, serial rapists and PR gurus, weed smokers like Carl Sagan and Bob Marley are what's REALLY fucking up planet earth... Right. Weed does no more damage to your lungs than cigarettes, and no more damage to your brain than most american news channels. As far as drugs go, a joint's about halfway between a beer and an espresso.

Being a stoner and knowing many other stoners, I can reassure you, we don't think you're an idiot because you don't smoke. More weed for us! Likewise, we don't think you're unable to have fun because you don't smoke weed - however, if you're clearly being snobbish to people who are having fun smoking weed, then it becomes pretty evident that you genuinely don't know how to have fun.

It's nothing to do with the fact you may or may not smoke weed - if you're getting judgmental about that kinda stuff and aren't secure enough in your own beliefs to just do you, it's pretty clear you're not really a party guy. The only time weed smokers judge non-smokers is when non-smokers judge weed smokers, so I think you'll find that if you adopt a more tolerant and respectful attitude towards others, you'll see drastic improvements.

The subtle superiority complex that constantly emanates from drug users and alcoholics and the likes is what has made me grow to absolutely hate people who use drugs to such the extreme extent that I have. I don't care if that sounds ignorant or intolerant, I'm 100% open minded about pretty much everything else, so anyone that thinks that I'm closed minded just because of one little subject can go eat a dick.

No offense, but I'm getting serious inferiority complex vibes. No-one thinks they're superior to you just cause they smoke and you don't, try not to be so sensitive. And if a couple of guys do, but it's as "subtle" and innocuous as you make out, why do you care? Just do you and prove them wrong. Unless there's other reasons you think they might not like you...

At 3/30/14 11:39 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Weed topics are powerful Xeno magnets.

Fun is a powerful hater magnet, my friend.

See? You might not even realize you're doing it, but it happens literally all the time.

lmao I'm just playing, chill cuh.

I just want people who do drugs to go ahead and admit that they can have just as much fun off drugs as they can on drugs. Being high or drunk doesn't make you have any more fun, it just makes you think you're having more fun, and that clouded perception of reality rots society.

I think that probably most of the best experiences of my life were sober, and wouldn't be enhanced by drugs, so yeah you're partially right. Drugs can make you have incredible experiences that would be impossible sober though. For instance, I remember taking LSD one time and briefly experiencing my thought patterns in third person - I then fully experienced the realisation that my consciousness follows multiple thought patterns at the same time, even though for efficiency's sake we only notice ourselves experiencing the "top" layer in day-to-day life.

I then instantly understood that this was precisely why we see the differences in level I and II cognitive functioning between populations that Jensen described, and I fully understood for the first time how important a role metacognitions play in intelligence. This experience was more vivid and intense then would've ever been possible while sober. Some drugs really do make it possible to experience aspects of life in a more intense, beautiful way than you'll be able to (or at least, I was able to) imagine.

"Clouded perceptions" may or may not "rot" society, but given how few people are regular day-time weed smokers, let alone psychonauts, I think blaming drugs is a bit of a stretch, don't you?

At 3/30/14 11:52 PM, Darthdenim wrote: I don't approve of drug culture.

What music do you listen to?

At 3/30/14 09:23 PM, StrapOnFetus wrote: When the sun starts it's first stage of dying by expanding.

(we will colonize other galaxy's by then.)

Genuinely hope you're right. I think if we can go a thousand years without getting trigger happy, we should be there and safe. By the point Earth's gone, of course, we'd barely be "human" anymore. What we'll become is the more interesting question to me.

Off topic - has anyone written a sci fi novel with various species of future-humans? Like, various species with humans as the common ancestor? Shit'd be soooooo dope.

Meh, Wriggle's a racist autist etc etc, but abandoned towns are fucking dope. Buy spray paint, make shit beautiful.

At 3/30/14 11:18 PM, Xenomit wrote: It's in some ways similar to the "Alcohol makes you have more fun argument.

Also, alcohol really can help you have more fun. There's really no debate that certain substances enhance your enjoyment of certain situations... I mean, hell, if you'd rather do shit sober 100% of the time, more power to you. What's your problem with people who do choose to use though?

At 3/30/14 11:39 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Weed topics are powerful Xeno magnets.

Fun is a powerful hater magnet, my friend.

At 3/30/14 11:18 PM, Xenomit wrote: You don't need weed to do any of the things that you stated. If you need drugs to improve your ability to socialize, and be cultural and and more creative, then you clearly have something wrong with you. You don't need a 3rd party aid (weed) to make you enjoy art more and have interesting conversations with your friends.

Of course you don't need weed to be creative, philosophical and social. You also don't need ketchup to enjoy your burger, sugar to enjoy your cereal, to turn up your music to rock out or handcuffs and a whip to have some good no-clothes fun.

So using those things is stupid right?

You're better than this Xenomit. Engage your critical faculties.

At 3/30/14 10:30 PM, ChickenChips wrote:

At 3/30/14 10:19 PM, AxTekk wrote: \The only purpose of the currency/ property dichotomy in tax is to avoid pissing off other nations. With no nation to piss off with bitcoin, I'm not surprised the IRS is trying to maximise income.

prove it Homie

ahhh you got me. I can't. I don't think there's a meaningful difference between the two, although there are reasons it works to factor one into tax etc.

I think it's good that gay marriage is now so socially accepted that people use disagreement with it as troll bait, just as they do with racism and sexism.

OT - Very happy my gay and lesbian friends will be able to one day marry the people they love. Also very glad that coming out to oneself no longer means having to accept that you'll never get married. Kind of ridiculous it took this long though, I don't think you should need a clear majority when you give minority groups equal rights but we've had a clear majority for a minute now.

Also smart move by the Tories. Cameron's gotten rid of Section 28's ghost.

At 3/30/14 04:00 AM, Elitistinen wrote: There is no place for a stoner in this society. You can't live a life of a law abiding citizen while getting high. It has been a secret so far that people from my workplace don't know about me being stoner. A cop once searched me because my clothes had the smell.

It's either this or Benson & Hedges etc take over the market, and weed loses any soul it once had. I'm honestly not sure what I'd prefer. I think right now I just want to see weed decriminalised, legalisation can come later.

At 3/30/14 10:07 PM, ChickenChips wrote:

At 3/30/14 09:48 PM, AxTekk wrote: Surely the only difference between property and currency is that currency's purpose is primarily to be traded in exchange for other goods. It's like saying "Humans are mammals not apes"

http://techcitynews.com/2014/03/28/bitcoin-is-property-not-currency-rules-irs/

Whilst interesting, I don't think that really proves a whole lot. The only purpose of the currency/ property dichotomy in tax is to avoid pissing off other nations. With no nation to piss off with bitcoin, I'm not surprised the IRS is trying to maximise income.

At 3/30/14 04:03 AM, Xenomit wrote: You are right, there's no place for a stoner in this society. And I hope it stays that way.

Your ideas of what it means to smoke pot are pretty mislead. How many people do you know who smoke regularly? How much of your view is based off of TV and film?

I love smoking weed with my friends. Not all the time, and not for days on days and weeks on weeks, but I love smoking weed with my friends. In my experience, it makes people less socially inhibited while actually making them less angry and reckless. It makes people less embarrassed about trying to think about things philosophically, even if they aren't Wittgenstein or even Yogi Berra. Wider society's reaction to this is telling - If your first instinct to someone trying to think deeply is to tell them to shut up rather than point out whatever's annoying you about how they think, you need to ask yourself what you think you're contributing.

It's also telling that most people's biggest problem with weed is that it might (like anything) in large doses make someone unproductive. If someone's got a job, is on top of their studies etc why do you care if they're smoking weed or playing videogames? Weed's been around longer, it engenders better appreciation for art and culture AND you're interested in holding a conversation with your friends while you're high.

If a person lives their life with the sole focus being a certain leisure activity, they have bigger problems than that activity. Judging the activity by what casual doers say and think about it, and how people act whilst partaking is smarter. Why does weed bother you so much? You come off pretty socially malcontent

At 3/30/14 09:33 PM, ChickenChips wrote: bitcoin is property not a currency

Surely the only difference between property and currency is that currency's purpose is primarily to be traded in exchange for other goods. It's like saying "Humans are mammals not apes"

As far as you know, will this work in the English South Coast, around summertime? We go between about 10-20 degrees, with quite a bit of rain. Don't have any serious interest as landlords etc, just curious as to whether it's doable in a climate I'm used to.

At 3/30/14 02:28 PM, JKMonkey wrote: If you read the NG BBS rules you'll see that it says,

"THINGS THAT WILL GET YOU BANNED:
Discussing illegal activities"

Doesn't matter how you feel about the law, it's a law and I hope you get your punk ass thrown in jail for posting this shit all over the internet. No one thinks you're edgy or cool, nobody cares.

I really want to make shitty sarcastic remark, but fuck it. Positivity is only ever a good thing.

Marijuana is a part of a lot more regular people's lives (especially young people) then you probably appreciate. Growing is a pretty smart way to cut the costs if you live out in the boonies, but there's a general lack of information so a lot of smokers are at the very least curious on the mechanics of this, if it's workable etc. Moreover, many non-regular smokers and even non-smokers are just interested as to how this stuff gets grown, by who and how successfully.

It's got nothing to do with edginess really - A lot of people are just interested in this. I also think responding by calling OP edgy etc etc is more of an attempt to be seen as cool and internet savvy, although everyone (including me) does it.

I think the real problem is that there's still this misconception about weed smoking being rarer and more niche than it is. I think about 30% of young people on tinternet have at some point smoked. I also think there's a problem right now with cynicism and knee-jerk negativity being the easiest way to make a socially acceptable remark. This forum needs more interesting threads right now imho, and there's certainly no shortage of people to call others out when they're being corny. Jam your hype, bro.

At 3/29/14 04:16 AM, Radaketor wrote: >mfw you called Skrillex an artist

You don't think there's any art to Skrillex's stuff? Have you heard Long Drive? Whether or not you like the guy's brostep style, there's no debate that he's a very good producer and capable of doing the whole atmospheric thing as well.

It's a pretty dope album. I think Skrillex is at the point now where he's shown he can do atmospheric stuff and that he doesn't feel he has anything to prove. If you liked his first EP you'll like Recess - Skrillex is back doing him.

OK, think I found the worst movie ever made.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lol_2011/

Please tell me no-one went to see this

At 3/19/14 03:04 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: Yeah, that's a reasonable reading, and probably closer to what the filmmakers were going for. I just don't think it's successfully borne out in the execution, in part because of the film's ham-fistedness and self-importance.

I've never read the original story so I don't know what might have been lost in translation.

I agree about the film trying too hard to be social commentary. It's funny, because if they tried less to make race a big subject in the film, the racial side of the film would be way more poignant. Coffey's story doesn't really make for a fantastic symbol of race relations, but it should shock us that Coffey's story wouldn't be impossible in the times the film is set in.

At 3/19/14 03:21 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: The movie, yes. Not the book. That's the issue. Shitty adaptation for so many reasons... and that's one of the main reasons.

No, I'm saying the book is like that. Are you telling me you didn't find the bit with all the random female vampires in Dracula's mansion remotely erotic? Something about the power play between them and the narrator was so hot to me.

At 3/18/14 10:10 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: The Green Mile is one of the more flagrantly racist films of recent memory, to the point where it serves as the most literal textbook example of the "magical black man" trope.

I understand why a lot of people make this argument, but I think it's based on a wrong-headed reading of the Green Mile, at least in terms of the original text (I think a lot of the subtelty and Stephen King-ness is lost in the movie, which does change things). Every character on death row in the Green Mile is broken, because you don't end up on death row if you're a competent functioning human being (at least in the Green Mile - Stephen King looks at a different universe in Shawshank ofc). Given this, it doesn't make much sense to me to point out that Coffey's an idiot, because to end up on the green mile you'd either have to be an idiot or a murderer.

To me at least, the Green Mile is just about restored faith in humanity. A prison officer finds salvation in a death row inmate (who is favoured over Wetmore by a distinctly christian god). Coffey's blackness is just there a) to make him even more vilified and potentially inaccessible than he would be as a white guy, and b) to act as a mechanism to get him on death row despite being completely innocent. He's not really a magical negro so much as a good samaritan, at least for me.