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At 11/3/14 07:58 PM, Profanity wrote: Why should we pay attention to a lesson in social ethics from people who haven't been thorough in understanding their own products? Or don't care how they were produced?

Without addressing any irrelevant specifics, because being a bad person doesn't automatically mean you're wrong. That's the genetic fallacy. It's perfectly possible for these people to be superficial do-gooders and for them to have a point about gender inequality.

Of course, the irony is that the shirt was entirely focused on making feminism look more appealing by getting it associated with famous people & for the exact same reason why that's dumb, so is it dumb to think that them actually being a little bit shitty makes their arguments any less sound.

At 11/3/14 04:41 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

For the record I don't think this is at all hypocritical either. There's no inconsistency between not giving a shit about labour rights and wanting men and women to be equal.

At 11/3/14 04:41 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: You could also consider the possibility that when a lot of people work on ordering a product, designing it, commercializing it, selling it, etc., it's not just the feminists who wanted to have these t-shirts made and those who wanted to buy them who take implications in the production, distribution, etc. of the product, and that it is a possibility that none of the feminists, who could well possibly be honest about their goals and intentions, actually knew about this?

Oh yeah, of course they didn't know! Why didn't they know? Because it never seemed important to them who made the goods they were buying to sell at a profit. Because they don't care about labour rights.

Not so much meant as a dig at feminists (I consider myself a feminist) as it is a dig at everyone - I don't think MRAs/ conservatives care any more than they do. But the modern middle class left is no longer a place that really gives a shit about labour rights. Not that it really ever has in America tho.

Yeah, when I went to Sitges last year in Catalonia there were Catalonian flags everywhere and the locals seemed to identify more as Catalonian than Spanish. However, most Spanish people I talk to say the same thing - that Spain and Catalonia rely on each other heavily for trade and the country needs to be united to face its current economic troubles. Seems like a complex issue as much about smart governance as identity politics.

I think most countries do need to devolve power though, including the UK. The current system here hasn't changed much at all in the past 70 years with regard to the centralisation of power even though our population has skyrocketed. This doesn't make good sense. Some issues probably should be fully centralised (economic regulation, most features of the legal system, probably border control etc) but there at least some where distinct regions of the UK need to do what's best for them individually.

At 9/10/14 09:06 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Precisely, to avoid taxes, not evade them as some were claiming. It completely changes things.

Surely the point still stands that companies DO NOT PAY the oft-quoted 40% corporate tax rate?

Ahhhhh, it really doesn't strike me as an indictment of feminism or bandwagonning or whatever, I mean anybody who wears Nikes is pretty much supporting modern-day slavery. The fact is that even the modern trendy-lefties don't really care about labour rights or the general living conditions of all the nasty poor people. Hence why Britain First (an anti-immigration far right popular movement in England) also got caught selling shirts etc that had been made in Bangladesh.

At 11/2/14 01:40 AM, TNT wrote:

At 10/31/14 01:19 PM, TNT wrote: ...wouldn't it be better to just give everyone the tax break, or rewrite the system where the tax bracket is equal in that aspect?

No one liked my suggestion? :(

Ahhhh, I don't think it's at all stupid, but I do disagree. For two reasons:

1 - It does make sense to me to incentivise marriages and to make sure married couples are more financially stable (because they're very likely to have to start planning to have kids) AND I think it makes sense to tie this to the religious aspect - that way you can have the churches and the synagogues and everywhere else handle some of the bureaucracy for most the people getting married.

I can also think of a lot of of less "traditional family" kinda couples for whom a civil partnership might offer a better legal framework (in terms of divorce law etc) than a marriage, so maybe if they don't need the tax break to start having kids straight away it would be wasting public money.

2 - On the gay side of things, it wouldn't fix the real fundamental problem at the heart of all this - there are people who want to be married in their church, their church wants to marry them, but the government is telling them that they can't get married in their church. Quakers, some liberal jews, some more open-minded Christians, some wacky Wiccans in the UK - they're all being denied the opportunity to work how they decide as a religious community with appropriate support from the state.

A lot of humans who would be happier if they're just allowed to have legally binding marriages for gay people aren't being allowed to, and it is just unnecessary cognitive dissonance & angst. The Catholic church etc should regulate what constitutes a binding Catholic marriage - The state, however, shouldn't care what they think about how other religions want to do it.

For these reasons, I think it really is necessary just to allow gay people legally binding marriages - and probably also allow straight civil partnerships with their existing (or similar) legal framework.

At 10/21/14 07:50 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Which means either:

1. They're ignorant morons.
2. They hold white countries to higher standards than non-white countries.
3. They care more about the relatively trivial rights of western homosexuals than they do of

Either that, or they care much more about what the politicians they elect support & what their gay friends and neighbours experience as opposed to the people and politics of a country hundreds of miles away they couldn't point on a map..

Further proof of my argument: progressives losing their collective shit about russia's anti-gay laws and not making a fucking peep about the 70+ non-white countries with much worse anti-gay laws.

Except when Qatar got the world cup the Western (football playing) world reacted the exact same way.

Js.

At 10/28/14 08:37 PM, mysticvortex13 wrote: i *DO* want gays to have equal rights, i was saying it's republicans who don't.

Ahhhhhhhh. My bad. If I read your comment over more carefully I probably could have got that.

Hmmmm, behavioural economics says no. Libertarianism is another perfect system for an imperfect people. I don't like big government, but big corp is a thousand times worse, what we need is to have them keep each other in check.

At 10/25/14 09:47 PM, mysticvortex13 wrote: guilt can be punishment enough for some to change. for those who dont, there's mental healthcare.

Oh, and who do you expect to pay for that?

And also how can you be a libertarian but not want gay people to have equal rights to straight people?

At 10/16/14 11:43 PM, FurryGod wrote: I don't think that makes it anymore difficult, at-least for me.

You're wrong.

At 10/4/14 10:11 PM, fieldertiger wrote: I honestly don't care about the music that you listed. It sounds lame to me even if I'm just judging the book by its cover.

This might be why you don't think there's any good music this year, if you're unwilling to try new things...

Nah, swine 09 was a genuine threat to people in first world countries (at least, as much as flu ever is to people in first world countries).

Felt kinda rushed. The world's evolved pretty much perfectly to me, and what we've seen of Season 4 Earth Kingdom seems like a pretty logical follow on from Season 3, but the dialogue feels rough and it all just feels a bit transparent. I'm still a huge fan though, and I think there's a lot of interesting room for Season 4 to explore.

Also, strongly agree with the user who described it as Christmas come early!!! All my favourite TV shows re-up around early summer, so getting the last season of Korra in October is about perfect for my cravings.

Trying to think of interesting honest facts about England that haven't been posted -

- The South of England is a mile right of the rest of the UK, there's a very surprising amount of anti-immigrant and racist sentiment (at least outside London, London's just different because reasons).
- Indians/ Pakistanis are our Mexicans/ Dominicans. Personally, I think Mexicans/ Dominicans have better music, but Indian/ Pakistani food is definitely worth Bhangra.
- Weed in England is generally pretty atrocious compared to the rest of Europe.
- Food in England is generally pretty atrocious compared to the rest of Europe.
- People in England tend to be less openly social, so nights out generally involve lots and lots of drinking. But surprisingly little socialising. Wouldn't recommend the clubbing (personally) UNLESS you get to a decent/ underground venue with actual DJs because
- Electronic music in England is actually preeeetttyyy incredible. No other English speaking country does proper dubstep, garage, drum and bass and house music like we do.
- England is very small, but a big plus of this is no major city is too far from another major city. Big bonus to 'Mericans thinking of visiting.

At 10/3/14 08:57 PM, koopahermit wrote: "Friendzone"
"Nice guy"
"Bad boy"
"Girls only want sex"
"No real relationship"

Hmmmmm, I don't know, I really thought he was more coming at it from the angle of "friendzoning is actually just xyz" but I see your point. To be fair, a lot of the time girls don't necessarily want a big relationship. "Only sex" is def a step too far most the time, but it's no myth that girls like a fling with bad boys, but I also think guys tend to misunderstand that female ideas of sexuality tend to be a lot more nuanced than male ones, with lots more room for passionate, temporary emotion.

I see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure if I'd totally disagree with the point the dude's making.

At 10/3/14 04:34 PM, koopahermit wrote: You dropped something.

How is that at all fedora?

At 9/30/14 05:43 PM, beakerboy wrote: football objectifies women and it is the most popular sport in the world.

5/5, bretty good joke

This is reeeeaaally difficult for English left wingers like myself. Shit, I want Scotland to stay so we won't have to deal with the Tories, but I want Scotland to leave so they won't have to deal with the Tories.

Seriously considering moving north of the border if Scotland votes yes. I want to work on the NHS and I really, really don't trust an rUK parliament to stop the NHS being neutered, then dismantled. Hell, Scotland's left wing enough for a better funded NHS to be a real possibility.

Don't know what I'm hoping for but I wish Scotland nothing but the best either way.

At 9/1/14 07:08 PM, Gontronic wrote:

At 9/1/14 06:33 PM, AxTekk wrote: >2012+2
>Not vaping

Plebians confirmed.

Who are you quoting with that epic meme-text there, buddy?

Newb, those are may-may arrows. Do you even 9gag?

>2012+2
>Not vaping

Plebians confirmed.

I'd say about 70% of the couples I know intimately well enough to talk about this kinda stuff enjoy at least a little bdsm in their love-lives. Not recommended for one night stands, but if you approach it with love, trust and honesty, there aren't that many girls who won't want to try being on whatever side of the whip.

I'm genuinely surprised more people don't eat their own semen. I have since I was 13, best way to avoid noticeable love stains and save on tissues. Plus, being bi, I was never really that grossed by it. Taste changes a lot, one of the better sides of eating homegrown is you learn what diet does what for your semen. Fruit is great, milk is bad, salt in moderation yo.

At 8/12/14 10:13 PM, Weeaboo wrote: The guy is a dumb juicehead, you cant really expect much from him regardless his political associations.

This. Clearly if someone's a hardcore, ultra-violent, psychopathic chauvinist they'll also be an MRA, but there's no reason to say MRAs automatically become hardcore, ulta-violent, psychopathic chauvinists.

Having said that, it's not like saying the things he said just makes you an MRA, it probably also suggests some serious narcissism (while not an MRA, as I understand it very few MRAs would suggest men have it worse today than Jews during the holocaust or blacks during slavery). It also suggests a near-psychopathic lack of empathy which is actually VERY relevant.

At 8/9/14 10:55 AM, yurgenburgen wrote: I was in a psychiatric ward in BC, Canada for one week (non-voluntarily) and it wasn't "worse than a US prison" by any stretch of the imagination.
I didn't get attacked or beaten up by anyone. I never felt unsafe. My biggest complaint about that time is that it was boring.

Yurgen, would you mind PMing me your story (if it's not too personal)? I'm getting some of your art for my new flat and it'd be massively dope to know more about you. Again, only if it's not too personal.

At 8/9/14 05:38 PM, YenMuffin wrote: Signed, t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m

Stupid randomlol stuff like this died years ago. You have lost living privileges, forfeit your life.

Please stop the meta-conversation. This is still a thing, and more-internet-than-thou negativity is cancerous.

At 8/9/14 06:48 PM, WahyahRanger wrote: Drugs sounds so fucked up, why do people do them.

I don't want to made of clay.

It's really not for everyone. That said, I've had some of the best moments of my life on acid and it's helped me understand the universe/ human psychology more than I can explain without sounding batshit.

I've never had the clay thing, but this one time me and my friends were walking home from the forest on acid with a giant ass storm about to start - you could feel the electricity in the air, and having taken two tabs I cannot explain the raw balls trippingly incredible feeling of your whole body tingling whilst the electricity blurs with your other senses (I haven't tripped without getting major synesthesia yet - definitely my favourite aspect of the experience).

Probably the weirdest thing I've had happen was sync-tripping with two of my friends, silently for ten minutes, all of us holding hands. There's a lot of theories about what exactly causes sync-tripping, but it's widely and consistently reported and manifests as a kind of low-level telepathy (but not supernatural or shared by anyone not doing acid - my favourite idea is that because acid opens your sensory gates and overwhelms you with stimuli, you're able to pick up on tiny body language micro-signals and unable to stop yourself responding, creating a feedback loop). We had to stop halfway through because my friend Carlo was getting a little freaked out, but it was a massive weird source of intense meditative pleasure. Intensely overwhelmingly peaceful, if that makes any sense.

At 11/5/12 09:55 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Dex is the only drug other than psilocybin that I might try at some point in my life. I've only been acquainted with old Mary and Al, but I'd like to shake hands with Dexter and Sy at least once.

You should consider taking a walk with Lucy, she's an incredibly interesting person AND she's fine leaving you completely alone after, as if she was never there. Getting hooked on her is impossible as well, she won't take you anywhere for 5 days after the last journey.

A few of my friends have had "Candy Flips" with Lucy and Mandy (Molly to Americans) and that's supposed to be mind blowing, but you never quite know what you're getting with Mandy...

At 7/25/14 09:00 PM, Jester wrote: More Nazis. Dastardly enemies of unambiguous evil so the world can get together as a team and kick the shit out of them in the spirit of freedom.

The Nazis weren't really unambiguously evil though, at least at the time. I mean, yeah, they wanted to invade a load of German speaking countries, but tbf they had had a lot of land that was arguably rightfully theirs taken away after WW1. Yes, the government was a fascist autocracy, but that really wasn't that unusual at the time in Europe - Italy, Spain and Portugal all went the same route. Yes, they were racist and vociferously pro-eugenics but at the time pretty much everyone, even the liberals in the First World were too (ie: George Orwell, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow WIlson). Life for a black man in the American deep south wasn't any better than life for a Jew in 1930s German.

Germany then probably didn't seem any more objectively evil than ISIS does now (which is probably why America didn't join the war until Japan brought it to America). Proof that history is written by the winners, that the Holocaust gets it's own name but what Americans did to Natives and what we British did to the Irish isn't even called genocide.

At 7/20/14 09:15 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: who would want to live in the shithole that is Eastern Europe?

I'd probably rather live in the Czech Republic than America, bro. But Western Europe > everyone.