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At 12/3/14 08:57 PM, TheGamechanger wrote:

At 12/3/14 08:26 PM, 24901miles wrote: @BrenTheMan @liljim can we get an account page that shows us a listing of all the BBS threads we've made and various stats like popularity graphs, number of replies compared to others made at the same time, page count, etc?

#FOODFORTHOUGHT

Adding onto this, what if one of those new stats is a percentage comparison between the number of "positive" replies vs "negative" replies?

Sounds to me like it would be a ton of work involved for a two man team unless they borrow from code libraries. Concrete countable stuff like replies per hour, day, week, total and strategies for comparing the variability of that information along that graph'd be easy. Same with comparing to neighboring thread #.

I already know that NG has similar graph outputs for other parts of the site.

I mean I guess Bren has already done a bit of that sort of parsing language using word lists but iirc there were a lot of human tweaks done to get useful info. The site doesn't need a freaking dedicated machine learning just to sift through the entirety of the BBS and display our discussions in more organized ways…the forum isn't that important.

@BrenTheMan @liljim can we get an account page that shows us a listing of all the BBS threads we've made and various stats like popularity graphs, number of replies compared to others made at the same time, page count, etc?

#FOODFORTHOUGHT

Well, I guess that's over. Since you've blocked me, refused to support your claim, don't want to listen to my experiences (despite me having no opportunity to lie because I am far from anonymous in this community), I guess we both have no choice but to leave this at the presumption that black people are going to fucking murder anyone who says NGer to someone wearing a Newgrounds T-shirt.

At 12/3/14 07:28 PM, NeonSpider wrote: You know what? You're full of shit. You are absolutely completely full of shit and you know it. No I don't live in some damn gated community. Do you?

You're being called out by me for being afraid of a stereotype which has been perpetuated by both black and white people.

I do however live in the South

That's a pretty big geographic region. I would have expected you to tell me exactly wherever is that you live so that anyone with a search engine could look through court documents, news stories, and police reports to find the oh-so-common instances of white people saying the N-word to a friend and then being murdered by an eavesdropper. Or even assaulted. Or menaced. Sounds exhilarating.

I'm sure you can at least name one case of extreme violence against a white person who used the wrong word positively. It happens all the time, right?

and I know very much what I'm talking about. I have black friends and they'd tell you exactly the same. You wouldn't last a day out here if you went around shouting out to every black person you saw "What's up my N word?" I half think you should do it just so you could get your arrogant ass shot for being such a dumbass with precisely zero street smarts.

Go around shouting ethnic slurs at strangers in the street? You have got to be fucking joking. You could go around yelling "popcorn" at strangers in the street and get yourself shot.

Do you know how far I have to go to find drug addicts, panhandlers and such? A walk down my own street and they're there. Hell sometimes there's a homeless in the dumpsters sleeping there even. You absolutely, thoroughly, do not know what in the hell you are talking about when it comes to appropriateness of using the N-word by a white person. Period.

You are exaggerating and you are emotionally attached to the fantasy of being embroiled in racially charged violence. You expect black people to react violently to white people using the N-word without actually having experienced it.

You are dedicated to a myth.

At 12/3/14 05:45 PM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 12/3/14 05:32 PM, 24901miles wrote: I don't think it's very tough to talk about how laid back people, criminals even, are when you get to know who they are behind racist stereotyping. It's probably the furthest you can get from "acting tough".

I'm incredibly interested in hearing about where you picked up this idea that black people will kill white people who use the N-word. It seems to feed on the old racist fear that all black people are violent and will hurt white people at the drop of a hat.

No you very much are "acting tough" because you're making up BS stories. I do not for one minute believe your stories because personal experience says the exact opposite. Try actually talking to black people sometime. I know that might be hard for you to do because it's easier to just make up stories about them. You probably get your ideas from movies you've watched and the only black people you know are middle-class or up and probably only one or two of those.

I'm "acting tough" because I've spent time with criminals who aren't white? Dude…. All you're telling me is that nobody you know is a part of any black market, criminal, homeless, or non-white.

Any black newgrounds dudes feel free to chime in and back me up on this. This guy is full of shit on these claims. It's unfortunate because you're usually a pretty decent poster but no way I'm buying what you're selling especially when personal experience says otherwise. Yes, individual black people may be okay with it and I'm not arguing against that. But you naively believe *all* black people are okay with it and they most definitely are not.

There is a pretty big difference between being OK with something and just deciding not to kill some white guy because he used the wrong word. Most people would hear a white guy say that word and look the other way, unless they're with a large group of friends who can back them up. You're talking about a ridiculously small number of black people who are willing to kill white people for using the N-word as if they're living in a culture where that's routine.

The few black people who are actually OK with murder, who have a reason to murder, don't just go around killing Whitey for their vocabulary. I bet the worst that would happen, and in very rare cases, is a sucker punch or stabbing by some dumb young kid who thinks he's untouchable.

In before you spew yet more BS about how you don't believe me or whatever while continuing your BS story for Internet "cool" points.

Fucking Christ. Do you live in the middle of a gated community in Texas?

At 12/3/14 05:21 PM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 12/3/14 05:02 PM, 24901miles wrote: Again, I think that's your racially focused presumption. It doesn't sound to me like you actually have experience with this. I've spent a lot of my life in the company of criminal gang-affiliated street-raised underclass people from at least a dozen distinct ethnic backgrounds in the presence of lethal weapons and black market products. The N-word flies around between puffs of smoke in those circles and the idea of wasting your time fighting over a single word spoken without insult is unheard of.

The only people I have ever been attacked by were white guys defending their reputations or trying to mug me at knife and gunpoint. The only people who I have ever heard correcting a white person for saying the wrong word were white.

No presumptions at all and I'm just going to say I don't believe you. Have you bothered even asking a black person about any of this because they'd tell you the exact same as I'm telling you. So I think you're making up stories to "back up" your claim and look "tough" when in reality you don't have any street smarts and likely live in an affluent area. Either that or you're intentionally trolling.

The only one presuming anything here is you. If you'd actually been in such company and such areas as you falsely claim, you would know it's unadvised for a white person to say at best and at worst is grounds for "fair game" which means it'll be their excuse to kill you if they feel like it.

I don't think it's very tough to talk about how laid back people, criminals even, are when you get to know who they are behind racist stereotyping. It's probably the furthest you can get from "acting tough".

I'm incredibly interested in hearing about where you picked up this idea that black people will kill white people who use the N-word. It seems to feed on the old racist fear that all black people are violent and will hurt white people at the drop of a hat.

At 12/3/14 04:36 PM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 12/3/14 04:26 PM, 24901miles wrote: Using the one of the N-words in poorer majority black neighborhoods will likely result in me being killed? That sounds like a subliminally racist presumption on your part.

I think it would be more likely that someone who took offense would walk up to me and correct my behavior verbally or tell me to leave with an empty threat of harm.

And this is how I know you've never come anywhere close to living near any poorer majority black neighborhoods or inner-city areas. No presumptions on my part at all. I'm going to guess you live in an area where black people are few and far between. You are the presumptuous one.

You probably live in a nice middle-class or upper-class area and have limited or no contact with anyone outside those classes. And since you seem to have these ideas that it's "okay" that tells me you really really wouldn't know how to handle yourself in more dangerous areas. You might get shot anyway but you'd definitely get shot for that. You need some street smarts.

Again, I think that's your racially focused presumption. It doesn't sound to me like you actually have experience with this. I've spent a lot of my life in the company of criminal gang-affiliated street-raised underclass people from at least a dozen distinct ethnic backgrounds in the presence of lethal weapons and black market products. The N-word flies around between puffs of smoke in those circles and the idea of wasting your time fighting over a single word spoken without insult is unheard of.

The only people I have ever been attacked by were white guys defending their reputations or trying to mug me at knife and gunpoint. The only people who I have ever heard correcting a white person for saying the wrong word were white.

At 12/3/14 04:19 PM, RedCoin wrote:

At 12/3/14 03:54 PM, SithCorduroy wrote: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/11/141126-jurassic-park-trailer-experts-science/

Real dinosaurs had feathers, damnit!

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Real dinosaurs had feathers

Real dinosaurs

THIS GUY THINKS DINOSAURS ARE REAL LMAO

Lmfao hahaha lol how could dinosaurs been real the worlds only 6000 years old

At 12/3/14 03:59 PM, NeonSpider wrote: You must not live near any predominantly black areas then. Such offense is extremely common and a good way to get yourself killed. Do not go into a predominantly black area, especially if it is a poorer area, and use that word if you yourself are not black. Even if you're just using the word among black friends who don't take offense, any other black person in earshot might.

Using the one of the N-words in poorer majority black neighborhoods will likely result in me being killed? That sounds like a subliminally racist presumption on your part.

I think it would be more likely that someone who took offense would walk up to me and correct my behavior verbally or tell me to leave with an empty threat of harm.

At 12/3/14 03:29 PM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 12/3/14 03:22 PM, 24901miles wrote: I tend to think that people who are strongly opposed to using the word

Some black people find it racist regardless of context if used by non-blacks though. If you're not black you probably shouldn't say it in public.

I haven't met any black people who find it racist regardless of context if used by non-black people. I can't imagine that they're common.

The word is pretty far out of my central vocabulary. I don't need to avoid using it anywhere. I ever were to use it, I would need to go out of my way to dig it out and fit it into a sentence somewhere. I might even have to approach a situation with a fully formed sentence and act in mind in irder to remember to use that word.

At 12/3/14 03:06 PM, NippleManOfMilk wrote: But... that's why I use it. To use the N word.

Does it amaze you how childlike and ignorant online people can be about race and perceived racism?

It amazes me. I am a young white man who lives in an area where racism is hidden securely behind closed doors. I have never heard anyone use the N-word in a negative way. It's sometimes a word used by black skinned kids and their white skinned friends as a masculine pronoun or term of endearment. Other times it's a word for "friend" between white skinned boys.

I find it hard to believe that there are parts of the world where racism is common. The idea of racism as the status quo in some cultures blows my mind.

I tend to think that white people who are strongly opposed to using the word ——ga haven't had any black friends or grew up around real white-to-black racism.

At 12/3/14 12:25 PM, liljim wrote:

At 12/3/14 12:03 PM, NeonSpider wrote: Nice catch. I still say excessive spelling out of acronyms makes one sound stupid though just like someone trying to "baby talk" with their kids, even if in this particular case it's a false etymology.

"Spelling out of acronyms?" Are you sure you're not talking about phonetic spelling and just... spelling to avoid saying the word itself? 'Cause this is an example of the latter:

AFAIK there are a few word types of thîs sort:

Acronyms: pronounced like a word (DARPA, NASA)

Initialisms: pronounced letter by letter (CIA, NSA)

Backronym: a word which has been used to construct an acronym (Never Expected When Guys Read Online Understand New Definition Spoken)

Recursive Acronyms: acronyms containing themselves (GNU's Not Unix)

Phonetic spelling or whatever you called it: taking advantage of illiterate people by spelling out words to obscure their meaning (we're taking a surprise family trip to W-A-L-T-D-I-S-N-E-Y-W-O-R-L-D)

Knowing which ones are initialisms or acronyms is pretty much just a result of knowing the rules of letter placement. If you can pronounce it in a way that would be possible without injecting new vowels or consonants to separate the others, it becomes an acronym. Unless it resembles a common word which would cause unnecessary confusion.

Pretty fascinating if you ask me. Know any others?

Cute kitty on a treadmill

Adorable kitten leaps over an obstacle

Big cat prowls around

Quick kitty showing off his speed

I just found out that one of my cousin's boys has a very large femoral tumor and the process of informing my parents and watching their despair in the face of the inherent evils of the natural world catching up to a young boy who hasn't even driven a car yet drained me. I spent some time sketching out the anatomy of the left femur and some articulations while trying to imagine the pain he is going through and now I know it's going to be a focus of my dreams tonight if I sleep.

Also I am behind on a book I'm reading because I was lured into a two hour conversation with a 50 year old complex analysis nerd yesterday and I'm thinking I might stay up and read.

Crash (movie) is playing and it's looking better thàn sleep too.

And I sent a text that was not replied to.

And someone sent me a playful message I didn't reply to because it would take a long time to write one.

At 12/3/14 12:41 AM, coaliscool42 wrote: I know this isn't related but you should try to avoid calling people "NGers"

You're right. You are a credit to your people. And might I add, for an Indigenous Person of Newgrounds you are particularly well-spoken.

At 12/3/14 01:34 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: its been getting worst every year, and the mods seem to do nothing about these new users shit posting to pad their post count.

Of course they don't bust em. The mods are skimming profits right off the top!

Ever noticed that mods who have X posts have fewer posts in their actual post histories? They're being bribed with posts by the +1 hoarders in exchange for lookin the other way!

The bastards are in cahoots.

At 12/2/14 10:59 PM, Scintillating wrote: Shifting its center of mass/angular momentum with standard vibration motors is actually pretty damn cool.

Funny you'd mention that. I designed and have been designing a phone component which uses a large number of small mass flywheel, pinion, brake, and gimbal systems to shift a phone's orientation with complex trajectories. It's based on satellite orienting systems.

I hadn't even considered saving a phone from falling, I was more interested in keeping it upright to take panoramas, selfies, and targeted photos by tossing the phone into the air and catching it.

I guess this means I'm behind on the times. It's a little bit disappointing but it's best to stay informed.

Which NGers would you meet, marry, have kids with, have a rocky marriage, cheat on with another NGer, get caught, and then divorce and passively aggressively attack by manipulating your children with gifts and visitation schedules?

Why?

At 12/2/14 11:56 PM, FurryGod wrote: That's why they went to the moon, because they could.

Is it? I thought we went to the moon to collect samples for research, set up instruments for deep study, and prove our superiority in rocket engineering to the rest of the world.

I can tell you there's no plants there.

You sound like you believe it.

Earth supports life naturally, Mars is a dried up rock. Are we back in 2nd grade here?

Life on Earth feeds off pure electricity in the soil, toxic chemicals in the harshest environments on the planet, heat from geothermal vents and underwater volcanos, radioactive ores, sunlight, heavy metals, and it can even be frozen in the tundra for thousands of years before being revived by the addition of heat. These are environments which are harsher than those in caves or even parts of the surface of the red planet.

The absence of a visible biosphere on the surface isn't conclusive to the search for life on Mars.

Also there is a shitload of water on Mars.

Not really, they're a bunch of nerds obsessed with space.

I don't even respect what you mean by "obsessed with space". Most of everything in existence is in space. Our future is space travel. The NASA employees I've met are pretty down to earth folks with realistic goals about using aerospace technologies to solve society's ills.

At 12/2/14 11:24 PM, BrenTheMan wrote: I don't get why MY COCAIN's character gave up and pissed away 40 years, but I can see that being a warning about limiting and self-defeating beliefs. At least they continued to build the space stations, even if it was supposed to be futile busy work. Plus now that I think about it, I don't really get what the fuck the other side of the equation was that saved them?

It is a complete theory of gravitation in 4, 5, 6… n dimensions. YOUR COCAIN's character needed to actually see what exists beyond the firewall surrounding a black hole's singularity to understand what form matter and energy takes when it 's in that state, giving him an understanding of which iteration of his equation was correct. Remember when Murphy realized the equation was recursive and that she had the potential to solve it without further steps? He knew the only way to solve it was to produce a greater mind than his or rely on divine intervention, so he spent his while life trying to lead Murphy down the rabbit hole to a solution he couldn't find. "Do not go gentle"

After glimpsing the singularity, they knew how the theory applied to reality and could proceed with building devices which reduce or shield matter from specific sources of gravity. They probably don't have complete control, considering that the space stations are centrifuged.

Overall, fantastic. 9.5/10. I'll definitely be preordering this on Blu-ray.

Nice!

At 12/2/14 10:07 PM, NeonSpider wrote: It's hard to say. Could be something explodes. Could be run out of some necessary resource (water, food, air). Could be fighting among each other. Could be some Mars-specific thing. Maybe the dust is toxic or maybe too much radiation or who knows.

I'm not sure what they will die from. I just don't think it'll be old age.

I don't think that any of that will happen if they are sent by NASA.

If something explodes it will be because it was poorly designed or damaged during transport. Going by history, that's unlikely in American, Russian, Japanese, Indian, and Chinese space flight. It's slightly likely in European spaceflight. It's very likely in American or Russian spaceflight if old equipment is used.

If they run out of resources, it would be food. They will be harvesting water from the soil and recycling their waste.
If they run out of food, it will be because
(A) their plants underproduced
(B) their meat cell cultures died and the backups were used up
(C) their government intentionally discontinued funding for continuing supply missions
(D) other governments or capable launch corporations decided against sending supplies

Infighting isn't likely unless they all develop brain tumors.

Mars regolith is identical to some Hawaiian soils and is nontoxic,

Radiation is a problem because the rad levels are forty times the accepted safety level, but they're going to be
(A) shielded
(B) only there for several decades
(C) people with strong immune systems
(D) safer than residents of the area surrounding Fukushima

At 12/2/14 09:53 PM, NeonSpider wrote: My prediction: The first humans sent to Mars will die and not from old age. Sorry Mars pioneers. We will salute you though.

What will they die from?

At 12/2/14 08:39 PM, FurryGod wrote: Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

That's not the only reason why we're doing it. Justifications for putting permanent settlements on Mars aren't tough to find online. One which has been popularized by Elon Musk is that dividing our species among two planets decreases the chances that we will go extinct as a result of threats like comet or asteroid impacts. World Wars couldn't even destroy any self sustaining Mars colonies. Even if all the world's nuclear arsenals were launched for an attempt at mutually assured destruction, and even if a nuke was launched at Mars at the same time, the colony would have a year to destroy the incoming rocket.

There are no plants growing there naturally, what does that tell you?

We don't know that there are no plants growing there. We don't know that there are no bacteria living there. But if there aren't, putting a research station there as soon as possible gives us the opportunity to come to an understanding of why no life is there and how we can use the knowledge to our advantage.

No it's not, it's a horrible rock.

How is Earth not also a horrible rock?

NASA has too much time on their hands.

NASA has too few employees, too small a budget, and too little time on their hands.

You live in California.

Walk outside with a cardboard sign hanging around your neck with "Looking for a date" written legibly. Bring a broom to sweep the piles of panties and bras out of your way.

At 12/2/14 07:17 PM, FurryGod wrote: But there's nothing on Mars.

There's 57,268,900 square miles (15 times the land area of the current United States) of land which has under a third of the gravity of Earth and no laws whatsoever. It is nearly impossible to attack Mars, industrial waste or accidents can be contained from the population, and the soil is rife with all of the basic ingredients necessary to sustain life and an advanced industrial settlement.

It has a thin atmosphere and the solar systems largest mountain, nullifying the obscuring property of gases which weakens the potential of telescopes, solar collection, and communications systems on Earth.

The atmosphere is perfect for growing many species of hardy plants and anaerobic bacteria.

There is no geologic activity, no destructive ocean, and a manageable amount of atmospheric activity.

It's like the perfect station for manufacturing and research in the way that Larry Page once reckoned we ought to do in remote parts of Earth.

At 12/2/14 04:01 PM, someaveragechap wrote: That's going to be one long ass trip... hope the astronauts don't go stir crazy.

One plan is to put them into freeze sleep for the trip. This has already been done on human subjects in order to repair stab wounds and remove bullet fragments from patients who would otherwise die. It's also been done on test subjects who were put into suspended animation for a couple weeks. And nonhuman test subjects for much longer.

Link 1
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129623.000-gunshot-victims-to-be-suspended-between-life-and-death.html

Link 2
http://www.popsci.com/article/science/suspended-animation-space-travel-what-scientists-still-need-learn

At 12/2/14 03:56 PM, FRAYDO wrote:

At 12/2/14 03:53 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 12/2/14 03:52 PM, 24901miles wrote: Russia wants to get there first.

I'm hyped as fuck for another space race.

YASSSSSSSS

www.penny4nasa.org

Russia wants to get there first.

At 12/2/14 02:12 AM, Silverlee wrote: Because I'm a nerd, I'll point out my theoretical fallacy with time travel:

If you were to travel back in time and actively change youself in the past; that is, say, to maybe stop them from doing something, in their respective future; wouldn't that change the present in a way that wouldn't have required you to time travel in the first place? And if that were true, wouldn't reality be unaffected since you technically never went back in time? It creates an infinite loop that cancels itself out one way or the other. MINDFUCK.

Not that the means for time travel even exists in the first place, anyway. It's all hypothetical.

That's my two cents...

Also...

"Ted! Don't forget to wind your watch!"

Yes, it would change the world in a way which might make your actions unnecessary.

What could the outcomes be? What are the possibilities?

You travel from Point D to Point A, changing the event at Point B which leads to Point C
1. Point C never happens, you never need to travel back
2. Point C happens anyway
3. You are unable to change Point B no matter what
4. You are unable to travel back
5. Not knowing Point C ever happened, you travel back to Point A2 to change Point C2.
6. You observe a changed timeline and there is no mechanism for correcting the error in causality because the underlying mechanism of time isn't subject to human logic
7. You observe a changed timeline and a corrective mechanism preserves all possible timelines by shuffling you into the appropriate one
8. You observe a changed timeline and a corrective mechanism destroys the universe, leaving behind only unchanged timelines
9. You observe a changed timeline and a corrective mechanism destroys the timeline you came from, leaving behind only unaffected timelines and the one you're in
10. You do not observe a changes timeline and any attempt to modify events causes entropic forces to obscure the attempt. You may get cancer as a child, amnesia once you reach the past, your machine might break down, etc

At 12/2/14 07:30 AM, liljim wrote:

At 12/1/14 11:40 PM, 24901miles wrote: Why wouldn't you change your name to something cool like xX_420_TurboXtr33m_420_Xx

Underscores in usernames got dropped in 2006. Nostalgia!

Makes me wonder what _altr_ and Denvish are up to

It's also five characters over the 20 character limit!