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"You mean prison?"
Isolation. Prison is to lock them in a room, but it's not isolating. Isolating is more harsh...

I cannot tell you the names of the news I watched, because there are many of them. I can mention few like ABC, Y-Net, Yahoo, but there are many more.

"I do, because no offense guy, but who are you? What are your credentials? Are you a journalist? Are you affiliated with the Israeli government? Are you a pathological liar? I don't know any of these things. I don't even know ... "

That's why I said you need to visit Israel. You will see how the Arabs are being treated and etc..
Also the military is not army of robots. People do the job there and know more than I do about what's going on the field. But about what is going inside Israel and not the borders everyone can see.

"The problem with a "media source" is it depends on what source we're using"
It is similar as listening to your friend. You decide if you trust him or not. Saying he lies because you disagree with him doesn't means he is indeed a lier - there is a reason why he says it.

I don't count on one media source. I like to read different opinions and point of views. It's kinda amusign as-well.

Here is a random link I found by using Google, the amazing search engine.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/dichter-isra el-to-allow-aid-supplies-food-into-gaza-
1.223188

I recognized it as it is an Israeli newspaper, now other source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/
middleeast/10mideast.html

And.. this
http://www.cicweb.ca/scene/2010/06/israe l_aid_to_gaza/

Google is amazing. And it took me only 5 minuets.

The news are many. Newspapers are not controlled by a government to brain wash it only happens in non-democratic countries. And there they don't have much access to the Internet, too many banned websites. But we talk about facts don't we? There are people who can see a fact and still call it a lie. The best way to prove my point is, again, to come and see it by your self...

A proper punishment? It depends on the situation. The most harsh one in my view is leaving him in a closed room alone. U.S.A uses this punishment.
The most easy one is treating them like they do right now.

My sources are from the media, objects I saw and school (history class much). Depends on what it is. Living in Israel also provides me a special source: To see by my self of what's going on. But you won't believe to my word, as you trust your sources.

"I'd like a source that shows where it has been actually codefied that Israel is a Jewish State"
I bet you already know the answer. But I guess you still want to hear the answer from me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Dec laration_of_Independence

"Prove this, because I have never seen a valid source that will back this claim that Israel is supplying more then anyone else."
Israel counts how much it sends into Gaza. When they conquered the ships the resources inside were less then what Israel sends. For this one I have only the media source, and you also have media source. But to know for sure we need to visit Gaza right? Not many will do that right now as you might get hit by a rocket that might come from Gaza.

"You still haven't defined for me what would be more proper in your opinion measures. Also this is not a fact, this is an opinion."
Yeah you are right, this is indeed opinion. But Israel is too nice to the people they capture than the Terrorist Arabs, that's a fact. I already said why. Not to mention that they operate on the soldiers that they capture like what happened to one of the Israeli pilots.

"Source again please."
Meet google.
www.google.com

Writing this takes me less then finding a proper source for you, as you said before: you can use google.

Anyways thanks for the reply, tho I don't expect you to change your opinion it's just like a hobby.

"I'm talking about NATURAL BORN CITIZENS who are native to this territory, and you believe they're rights are fictitious and they should leave because they're "squatting" on land that should go to your people."
This is a big argument you are having there. I wouldn't support to kick out civilians who were born in Israel after the creation of the Israeli s tate. Moreover too much time passed already. In addition they help to develop Israel a little bit, like having doctors. Anyway that's my opinion.

At 3/8/11 02:06 PM, satanbrain wrote: At 3/8/11 01:09 AM, 1Stalker1 wrote

But again, there is a chance you will claim it's a lie so your best chance to actually to believe to that is by visiting the countrie it self.

But it's easier to believe in a lie then actually check and see the facts for yourself.

Long time no see eh? Good to see you again.

All the countries in the middle east are "unfair" as they are not democratic. (Except for Israel)
But lets hope that the revolution that is going on there will change something.

I think you will find this interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere

There are many talks about it in, usually in the religious groups. They also thought about that =)

At 3/7/11 07:29 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: hi, 1stalker1, can you source any of your claims? Because this sounds like the cliff notes versions of almost everything that's been discussed (and sourced) for the last 30 pages.

Also what do you mean by "too nice to the enemy" pray tell, how do you think they should be dealing with "the enemy"?

The enemy, who are the terrorists, have the opportunity to study, watch T.V, and do something on their "free time" instead of getting punished. In addition, their families can visit them. The terrorist doesn't really have much to fear anything.

I wrote many facts, providing them to you will take me some time to search in google and I am not going to waste my time on that. In addition you might also want to visit Israel by your self, as you might say that I am lying.

Anyway, just copy paste of something I said before and I'll google that for you. But again, there is a chance you will claim it's a lie so your best chance to actually to believe to that is by visiting the countrie it self.

Topic reached 30 pages! Damn!
Anyway few facts:

%u2022 Israel is a Jewish country.
%u2022 Israel is a democratic country.
- As it is democratic, it protects the minority from the majority.
- There are different groups of minorities. However most pro-Palestinians are against the existence of state of Israel
- The Druzes (Who believe in the Quran but are not Muslims) surve in the I.D.F, and even fight other Druzes in the enemy countries.
%u2022 Israel never started a war, except six days war which went six days which was a self defense act.
- The best self defense is offense. You won't wait for him to hit you.
%u2022 Israel had the full right to attack those ships and conquer them. Not to mention that those ships hardly supply Gaza like Israel supplies Gaza. In other words, Israel gives Gaza more supplies than all those ships together!
%u2022 Israel is being too nice to the enemy.
%u2022 Israel released like 200 terrorist from jail/prison/howeveryoucallit while 1 Israeli soldier is still waiting in jail to be released, and in worse condition than those 200 terrorists. I mean those guys got T.V, all he have are rats...
%u2022 Cakes here are nice, but not as good as an Europian cake.

At 6/4/10 01:14 AM, satanbrain wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16sANhzjc C0&feature=player_embedded

It was for the kids in Gaza, so they could play with those "toys". It is "fine" to do.

At 6/2/10 08:21 PM, Warforger wrote:

So we should ban anything which could remotely be seen as a weapon? None of these are things you wouldn't find on a cruise ship, a metal pole flares, I mean fuck you might as well hand cuff all sailors because they can hurt people with their hands.

Yes. Supplies in - weapons out. It is also their problem for not supporting Gaza in a legal way, they turned into criminals at Israel. (Like in any other country, passing the law makes you a criminal)

I agree that they should have just surrendered peacefully, but to give them shit about "bringing weapons" is just an outright falsehood.

They didn't had to surrender. All they had to do was to sail into Egypt/Israel and load their stuff there.

Yes, for them it is a crime. They could pass the Israeli territory with weapons, which would be bad. They also don't have weapon licenses and they also attacked the army.

At 6/1/10 06:19 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 6/1/10 04:47 PM, 1Stalker1 wrote:

At 6/1/10 04:21 PM, JohnnyWang wrote: Yes, and the body count and infrastrcuture damage speaks for itself. For every dead Israeli... oh, ten dead Palestinians. Or, "Arab scum" or what you Israeli's call them again? But most of them were kids, so they only count as 2/3 or what?

For 1 Israeli soldier 300 terrorists, even for 1 Israeli dead soldier 100 terrorists. (The dead body example happened before)

Israel tries to not hit civilians, sadly it is impossible since terrorists are shooting their rockets from hospitals and schools. Israel tries to avoid hitting civilian.

Maybe instead of bombing them you could you know, attack them with special forces? I don't get why you would need missiles and bombs fighting terrorists.

Last time it happened the world was like "What? You send soldiers to attack them? This is racist!"
Now it is just sending aircrafts to destroy underground caves.

At 6/1/10 04:21 PM, JohnnyWang wrote:

At 6/1/10 01:11 PM, satanbrain wrote: and weapons. lots of weapons.

[citation needed]

At 6/1/10 03:33 PM, therealsylvos wrote: More like my neighbor denies my right to exist and lobs grenades at my house in the hope he'll kill my whole family but he only killed my son, So I take the neccessary measures to ensure he doesn't get anymore grenades.

Yes, and the body count and infrastrcuture damage speaks for itself. For every dead Israeli... oh, ten dead Palestinians. Or, "Arab scum" or what you Israeli's call them again? But most of them were kids, so they only count as 2/3 or what?

For 1 Israeli soldier 300 terrorists, even for 1 Israeli dead soldier 100 terrorists. (The dead body example happened before)

Israel tries to not hit civilians, sadly it is impossible since terrorists are shooting their rockets from hospitals and schools. Israel tries to avoid hitting civilian.

At 6/1/10 03:21 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 6/1/10 01:47 PM, 1Stalker1 wrote:
It has right to bomb Gaza, as Gaza bombs Israel.

My neighbor ran over my cat so I killed his wife.

Bad example, also Israel blockade Gaza and destroys any rocket launchers devices that they have. Not sending entire army and rockets into Gaza.

If Israel would like to take control over Gaza again, they would do it in less then 2 days.

Oh that looks interesting, never saw that before :O
I would like to join :D

At 6/1/10 03:08 PM, SouthAsian wrote: Israel doesn't deserve to exist.They should have stayed in Euope after World War 2.Hitler was crazy indeed,unfortunately he came into power and instilled his personal ideology in Germany.But should we give the people in Darfur who are being persecuted their own land?What about all the other people throughout history who have had it hard.Just because a religious book says they are the "chosen people" they get a free pass?To me it shouldn't work that way.

Give me a break.

We won't give you a break, go back to the kitchen argh I mean school and study the rights. Jews have the right to have the country is one of the reasons to have a country. Other reason is historical reason and another one are premises.

The reason is not only based on religious book and historical book, it is much more then that. Also the religious Jews didn't accepted the Zionist idea at start according to the bible it self. (however, some actually became Zionists. There are different groups of Zionist, but all are connected to the coming back to the land and take control on the desert [Having bananas in the middle of the desert])

At 6/1/10 02:02 PM, 2wiceBorn wrote:

At 6/1/10 01:57 PM, 1Stalker1 wrote:

If that so, why didn't they do it in a smart way?

What they did was very smart. They got Israel to attack them. That's all they wanted.

What they had to hide from Egypt/Israel if it is only aid?

The aid (or the lack of it) isn't the issue. It wouldn't matter to the people on the boat if they were carrying 5000 kilos of cheese, or a thousand XBoxes. It's the fact that they DELIBERATELY chose to disregard Israel's commands to provoke them into attacking them. Think of it as RL trolling.

You are already getting to the reason, but first you need to explain why you think so or what can make sense to your words. However, if you will tell that to some guy who is reading only one source of information and without knowing the past, he won't believe to you.

At 6/1/10 01:49 PM, 2wiceBorn wrote: It's obvious what this was. A deliberate provocation of Israel. The peoplein charge of that boat knew full well what the implications of disregarding orders from Israel would be and knew that the international outcry and publicity would be well worth it.

Sadly, some very naive people got caught up in it. I might disagree with the people who were on that ship but they did believe that what they were doing is right, much as I believe Israel's reaction to the situation was right.

This issue will never be resolved. The arguments will go back and forth along with the bullets and explosives. It's a sad fact of life.

If that so, why didn't they do it in a smart way? What they had to hide from Egypt/Israel if it is only aid? Why they had so many sharp items? And why pedo-bear is walking down the street?

And because of that reason Israel sent their soldiers with paintball guns, in order to you stop taking chill pills and worry about those guys who were hiding items which are not suppose to be in Gaza.
Some commanders in the army disagree that the soldiers had to go with the paintball guns, they think that the solders were supposed to be sent with real weapons, and with bigger ammount.

I should add the the previews aid boats were sent too, and guess what happened to them? Yes, they aided Gaza after Israel checked the aid and let them pass.

At 6/1/10 01:43 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 6/1/10 01:39 PM, 1Stalker1 wrote:

At 6/1/10 01:30 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Israel has no right to blockade anything.

Gaza has no right to shoot rockets at Israel, send terrorist to Israel that will blow them selfs up, brain washing their kids.

I guess that what gave the right to Israel blockade Gaza, Europe agreed.

Israel has no right to bomb Gaza, brainwash their own kids or use chemical weapons.

It has right to bomb Gaza, as Gaza bombs Israel. Would you let some other poo country bomb your country?
And if you claim that Israel started first, then tell me why Israel gave Gaza to Arabs in the first place?

Israel doesn't brain wash their kids. Evidence: Me, in the internet, talking to you, without banned website to ban the truth from me, learning about how to protect democracy and I learn about my and other's rights + No some brain washing actions in order to brain wash me.

You should visit Israel before claiming something so damn retarded.

However, there are evidence that Gaza brain wash their kids, and the kids never heard of "democracy".

At 6/1/10 01:30 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Israel has no right to blockade anything.

Gaza has no right to shoot rockets at Israel, send terrorist to Israel that will blow them selfs up, brain washing their kids.

I guess that what gave the right to Israel blockade Gaza, Europe agreed.

They attacked the Israeli rights by passing the territory. If they listen to the warnings, and went to load their aid where they were asked to (to check for any illegal items) then everything would be fine.

But guess what? Those ships had illegal items which they were hiding. We all knew that this would happen, why are we all surprised? That a soldier had a paintball gun against like 200 people with axes and knifes?

I blame those who brought this to them selfs. Europe, the guys on the aid ship, Israel and actually everyone knew that this what will happen. What I think is funny is that those guys on the aid ship thought that Israel will allow them to pass "just like that". Sadly it brought to 9 deaths and allot others injured.

I can't think on any game that is suck. One guy loves it... other doesn't.
I know something that is reversed. From a game to a anime =) Ragnarok Online if you heard about it.
The anime was fine, but not best in my opinion. I know some people who really liked the anime.

This is fact:
There is no useless facts.

Well, I suggest to you to first try the game. If you start to like it, then buy it but only if you know you can pay every mounth about 40 or 20 dollars... (I dont know the price)
Or play private servers if you dont want to pay every mounth.

I dont think those who cant study will study this, since they dont study.

Anyway, you made a great work =) and it is true.

Gravity exist.

Your weight = Earth Gravity * your mass.
Your weight on moon = Moon Gravity * your mass.

Gravitation is a natural phenomenon by which objects with mass attract one another...

Congratulations winners =)
We want more more more pl0x pl0x