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NGADM´14 - Round 2 Submission
this is our NGADM submission for round 2. The track is a little piano concerto in late romantic style.
We hope you´ll enjoy it :D
Honest reviews and votes are always appreciated!
No real qualms. Good job.
This is an NGADM Round 2 Review.
Just as I expected, another wonderful song by the talented SoundChris and Hitokirito. As a result, I was not surprised in the slightest at the quality of this song. However, your composition is what really blew me away. I just sat back, and smiled at how professional the song sounds; it's obvious that you have a great deal of knowledge on piano composition. My word, I can't get over how well it flows. Also, that realism! The coughs and sounds of the audience really draws the listener into the atmosphere of the show (though I have mixed opinions about this) – it feels like I was waiting in the seats clapping along with the audience. Going back to the piano, it is immediately captivating and remains that way throughout the entire performance. I can't stress enough how 'real' this song felt. Very impressive!
While I appreciated the realism, the cough and sneezing seemed to be a quite excessive. It puts you in the right state of mind, no doubt about that...it just happened to stick with me longer than it should have. I know that the focus is on the piano (it is a piano concerto, after all), though I feel as if the other instruments were avoided quite a bit. They could have been brought out in the mix more to emphasis the sound of being in a concert hall. 2:32 – 2:50 would be a good example of this. As others have said, the piano sounds far too close to the audience, in a way. Regardless, it still sounded fantastic.
Bravo you guys, bravo! Keep it up! :)
Man, at the risk of sounding biased I'm going to admit that your submission is always one of the few I deeply look forward to hearing. Why? Because you so bravely take new musical styles in your stride, even the styles we don't often hear here on Newgrounds, and execute them incredibly well. This is certainly no exception. We have a lot of classical pieces in the Audio Portal, sure, but none that really go so far to achieve realism. While the lengths you took may be arguably a bit excessive (that cough!), I've got to commend you on grasping the listener's attention and placing the listener mentally inside a concert hall. I've shamefully never been to an orchestral/classical concert but damn, I've got to say that you brought me the closest I've ever been.
The composition; wow. Those bright chord voicings and the heavy use of expressive articulations and embellishments like glissandi, arpeggiated chords and trills are very characteristic of SoundChris's compositional style, and they really work. One of my favourite parts of this track would be the transition at 1:30. I keep going back to hear how beautifully you built up to that waltz section. That's a really nice motif too! You repeat it at 3:11 with the horn which I loved (it's no secret that I'm a fan of repeating motifs). You also have plenty of virtuoso sections with heavy use of glissandi and fast melodic passages, which were a blast to listen to.
I hate to just reiterate what MetalRenard said but I agree wholeheartedly with it. The piano feels far too upfront, and consequently sounds separated in the mix compared to the other instruments. This is nothing that some stereo shaping and simple levelling can't fix, but nevertheless it does detract a bit from the listening experience I feel. The French horn sound is also a too overblown. It sounds like a horn which would fit in a trailer, rather than a classical piece. The solo French horn patch from East/West, or at least a lower value on the modulation wheel, would make it fit more in my opinion. Lastly, there's a minor static/clipping sound at the very start.
One of my favourites of the round. Your firm grasp on composition never ceases to amaze me.
Your orchestration is beautiful, man. A+ work as always.
Thanks so much ChioBam - i tried my best in those intense 2.5 days :D
This is a NGADM "Round of 16" Review!
Awesome work, so realistic but with a retro feel to the sound.
The reason it got 9.5 instead of 10 is because you made the same mistake in this as you did in the previous round's submission. You don't have a good grasp of perspective in audio/mixing. The piano sounds like it's in a completely different room to the rest of the orchestra and to someone like myself it sounds so out of place that it's jarring. There are ways to make it work, but instead we have the piano sounding as if we're sitting close to the pianist in a small room and then everything else is being played on a stage somewhere else. For a start, when you're further away from the piano it wouldn't sound this wide. Also its sound would be projected into the same space as the strings and claps. Try listening with headphones if you can't tell what I mean. (Also the audience members are a bit rude to clap over the music, aren't they?)
Now that I've explored that fully I can move on to the good stuff. ^_^
Like I said, it's really realistic sounding, almost like an old film-score feel to it at the beginning. The instruments weave in and out of each other very well and the piece flows too.
The piano part is expertly crafted and I enjoyed the piece overall a lot. The mixing is good, the piece has a lot of depth and warmth.
Congrats on making it to the quarter finals! 9.5/10
Thanks a lot MetalRenard for your kindness. I was trying to combine a lateromantic wagneresque orchestration style with a chopinesque / sometimes rachmaninov style piano. Yeah the thing with the room accoustics is true. I also knew that when i heared it. Unfortunately i had a lot of trouble in the 2 weeks where i wrote this and in the end i was not able to listen to the track on monitors anymore before the deadline since it was already very late here. Also the orchestration - which had been written completely could not be uploaded anymore. I had to write half of the track on the deadline day and then had to face some extremely annoying DAW problems ... i could not use the playback function anymore but had to freeze, export, listen, unfreeze and so on ... In the end also the last part of the piece had an already composed and finished instrumentation and orchestration (the french horns were not alone - i composed the orchestra like it was in the beginning of the piece) but could not upload it anymore. It was 7 minutes before the deadline. Exporting: 4 minutes, upload 5-7 minutes --> disqualified. So i decided to upload the "unfinished" version. I am very glad you enjoyed the piano and especially that you found the orchestra had a warm sound because thats always what i want to create. Thanks a lot for your detailed review!
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