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3 min 52 sec
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4.48 / 5.00

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Rated 4.48 / 5 stars
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EDIT: Changed some stuff. I added two more instruments - a kalimba from Ra and a Chinese noisemaker from Stormdrum 2. I also fixed lots of things that the reviewers pointed out, such as the unrealistic strings at around 1:20, the lack of humanisation in one of the pan flute runs, the lack of new stuff in the second climax and the lack of extra percussion around 1:20 - 1:22. In addition to that you'll be hearing a lot more subtle details, including nature FX if you listen to it as hard as you can without hurting yourself. Thanks to everyone who posted criticism on this, it really helped! Oh and clear your cache if you've heard the older version of this so that you'll be able to hear the new one. These additions have increased the total time spent to 35 hours 35 minutes, and the total patterns to 372!

Phew. This is another really big piece of work! Made for a school project that required me to make a piece of music. Since it's not a personal project I worked very very hard on it to make sure it's the best quality I can possibly make it to be. Let me point out before I get to the details that this is not the final version! I'm stressing the importance of peer review in this project and therefore I'll take any criticism and improve the song based on suggestions.

So, basically with this track I wanted to reflect an ecosystem. The key feature of an ecosystem is harmony; a functioning habitat where different organisms and objects compliment each other and allow for progression and survival. That's pretty much what I tried to showcase. Everything is very harmonious and I tried to make all the instruments compliment each other. Furthermore, you'll hear lots of little melodic motifs integrated with each other and combined together, to really highlight the unity of an ecosystem. However, an ecosystem is also diverse, so you're going to hear plenty of different musical styles playing here.

I tried to go for an organic sound with probably the most woodwind usage you'll ever hear in any of my songs. It's very percussion-oriented with congas and bongos and all sorts of tribal percussion. I even added some mallets, but there's a heavy orchestral influence too, because orchestral is pretty much the only thing I'm good at haha.

Here's a list of all the VSTs I used and which instruments I used them for:

East/West Symphonic Orchestra Silver:
Violins/violas (legato, staccato and pizzicato), cellos (legato and staccato), double bass, trumpets, French horns (legato and clusters), trombones, flute (legato and staccato), oboe, clarinet (legato and staccato), bassoon, xylophone, glockenspiel, harp, men's choir, triangle, snare, timpani and orchestral cymbals.

East/West Ra:
Ney flute, pan flute, didgeridoo, guitar.

East/West Stormdrum 2:
Shaker, congas, djembe, earthquake ensemble, Godzilla hits, cymbal roll and gong.

Then I used random free drum samples for the wind chimes.

I used FL Studio 10 to make this. It took 318 patterns, 51 automation clips and a whopping 32 hours and 45 minutes to make. The only track of mine that took longer than that (roughly 36 hours) is Trinity and that's over twice as long as this track. So yeah you can imagine how much work I put into this.

I'd like to thank a few people for giving me tonnes of feedback. SkyeWintrest, camoshark, Buoy, Back-From-Purgatory, Blackhole12 and Echo all deserve my thanks for giving me so much valuable feedback. Zero-Flare, Darrenkerwin and snuitergup also deserve mentions for giving me feedback despite not being musicians themselves. Without their feedback, I can guarantee this track wouldn't be what it is today.

That's all I've got to say! Thanks a lot for listening, and like I said, reviews are very much appreciated!

Reviews


BuoyBuoy

Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

These instruments are wonderful, the heavily reverbed percussion do create a certain rainforest vibe. They also play with each other really nicely, I love how the guitar and the mallet instruments play appropriate variations of the same theme and complement each other. I love the melodies you're using too, the ones at 0:22 and 0:32 are wonderful and really memorable. So are the ones later on. They're awesome.

Everything is.
The dorian-ness of it all is good.

Well I think you might want to liven up that arpeggio at 1:02 a bit, cause it's 100% quantized feels a lot more like a mechanical scale run than an actual defined melody like the super strong one at 0:32. I'd either change up the timing of some notes or switch it out entirely. I love the dissonant chord at 1:21. According to your description/the background of the tune, it kinda sounds like an unwanted or unbalanced element in the ecosystem that swiftly gets balanced out after a second. Don't be afraid to really emphasize that by making it louder, since you keep it so brief anyway.

The introduction of the more standard orchestral instruments sounds really nice, and in this whole ecosystem allegory it's sounds a bit like you're zooming outwards and showing the grandeur of the habitat's biological machinery in its entirety, whereas earlier you were kinda focusing on a smaller level of it and looking at relationships between individual creatures. That's neat

The strings at 2:00 are really warm and big, I wish you had more of it. The calm part from 2:11 is kinda progrocky actually, since everything is really restrained and subtle and it has a hint of improvisation. I like the harmonized thing at 2:18 and then 2:23, it really fits your description. The transition that happens within [2:42 , 2:48] is really great, I love how easily you bring back the original melody. The last reiteration of the main theme didn't really bring too much new stuff to the table except some small variations on the theme, so maybe add something more hectic there to spice things up. The ending is pretty okay but it just kinda dies out a bit since it gradually goes down in intensity.

I really really like the little detail at 2:52 where the guitar plays a high A and there's this synthish fluttering sound behind it, and together it sounds exactly like what water droplets bouncing off leaves looks like. More of that kind of stuff would be awesome and add another layer to the whole "cooperating ecosystem" feel.

The mixing and production pretty perfect so I don't think you need to think much about that.


Step responds:

OMG dude I just remembered how much I miss your reviews. Amazing review, thanks so much. I need to review one of your tracks again sometime.

COMMENCE OPERATION QUOTE RESPOND.

"These instruments are wonderful"

Thanks goes to the VST of the East and West variety.

"I love how the guitar and the mallet instruments play appropriate variations of the same theme and complement each other."

Very glad you noticed that; it's not often I make those kinds of background elements because I can harmonise just as well as a minor 2nd interval can... that is, not that well at all.

"I love the melodies you're using too, the ones at 0:22 and 0:32 are wonderful and really memorable. So are the ones later on. They're awesome."

Woo, thanks! Feels good to make something original after all those remixes haha.

"Well I think you might want to liven up that arpeggio at 1:02 a bit"

Good point. I'll do that!

"I love the dissonant chord at 1:21."

Yeah thank Skye for that. He's the one who said "there needs to be something playing before that massive hit" so I decided to throw something dissonant in there for once. I'll make it louder, I agree it's waaaay too quiet.

"The introduction of the more standard orchestral instruments sounds really nice, and in this whole ecosystem allegory it's sounds a bit like you're zooming outwards and showing the grandeur of the habitat's biological machinery in its entirety, whereas earlier you were kinda focusing on a smaller level of it and looking at relationships between individual creatures. That's neat"

Best. Comparison. Ever.

"The strings at 2:00 are really warm and big, I wish you had more of it."

Yeah, those are cellos. I love their sound but I didn't use them much in this particular track (OK that's a lie, I used them a lot, but at considerably low volume), reason being the mallets and guitar and stuff provided plenty of depth already and throwing in any more depth would mud everything up.

"The calm part from 2:11 is kinda progrocky actually, since everything is really restrained and subtle and it has a hint of improvisation."

Yeah that part is taken from an idea I had. It was my first attempt at making this school project song and failed miserably:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cfq7kyuypz3m64w

I hate its sound now but I had that melody locked away inside me for months and I had to find a way to do it justice.

"I like the harmonized thing at 2:18 and then 2:23, it really fits your description."

Yup, I used it again at 2:32 and one last time in 3:11 in the final reiteration of the main melody, hence the whole idea of having different motifs and stuff cooperating with each other like an ecosystem would.

"The transition that happens within [2:42 , 2:48] is really great, I love how easily you bring back the original melody."

I was actually not so sure about that transition so yay!

"The last reiteration of the main theme didn't really bring too much new stuff to the table except some small variations on the theme, so maybe add something more hectic there to spice things up."

You are absolutely right, I did try and add some xylophone arpeggios or something but they failed so I just took the xylophone rhythms I used at 1:22 and threw them in there. I'll try and think of something else.

"The ending is pretty okay but it just kinda dies out a bit since it gradually goes down in intensity."

Yeah I felt an intense ending wouldn't really work for this track. I dunno.

"I really really like the little detail at 2:52 where the guitar plays a high A and there's this synthish fluttering sound behind it, and together it sounds exactly like what water droplets bouncing off leaves looks like. More of that kind of stuff would be awesome"

Fantastic idea thanks, that's what I'll work on next time I open the project file!

"The mixing and production pretty perfect so I don't think you need to think much about that."

Sweet. I was hoping the song wouldn't clip because it peaks above 0 dB pretty badly.

Thanks a LOT for the great review man! I love your reviews.

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supermario456supermario456

Rated 5 / 5 stars

Actually it's pretty good. A lot of the parts I really liked including the beats.
The melodies are going good. :) Respect! :D


Step responds:

Thanks! I honestly can't thank you enough for all the comments you've given me on my tracks.

I'm glad you enjoyed it!


LionzNTiggerzLionzNTiggerz

Rated 4 / 5 stars

The beginning makes me think of a disney film or something, where all the animals are starting to come out of hiding, and they are all displaying their colours, like peacocks, etc.

At first it's all fun and easy and inviting, and then it's a bit mystical, like "there might be more to this than you think."

It's kind of making fun of them too, like pointing out how silly some of them look, but beautiful at the same time.

Then at about 1:39 it gets mystical and trippy. It's like the mystical stuff really comes out and it's completely unfathomable to the human mind. Like some backwards dance or like 50% of it is in a non-visible spectrum or a different dimension.

The guitar after the heavy strings is kind of like a gentle, wise, compassionate overview on the whole thing. Then when the drum starts again, it is like you're trying to start the heart beat again by pounding on the chest, and then it starts.

Some of it is cheeky, too, lol. Like the little melodies that come in 3:30.

It's amazing because it all sort of works together, and the way it is right now all works and you can see how everything fits together. But there are loads of little things that are blatantly trying to change the order of things, too (sometimes despite seemingly overwhelming odds). So it isn't static, it's dynamic.

And there are some parts that are just enjoying the beauty of the thing, like the chimes at 3:39. They don't really have an agenda.


Step responds:

Wow, great review! Thanks for going in so much detail!

"The beginning makes me think of a disney film or something, where all the animals are starting to come out of hiding, and they are all displaying their colours, like peacocks, etc."

That's a really cool comparison. I can definitely see where you're getting at. It's the kind of intro I always strive to perfect, where I build everything up, develop rhythms, introduce motifs and then let the song progress from there. It certainly helps to 'open up' the track.

"At first it's all fun and easy and inviting, and then it's a bit mystical, like "there might be more to this than you think.""

Haha yeah. That's good because there's always more than we think in an ecosystem :3.

"It's kind of making fun of them too, like pointing out how silly some of them look, but beautiful at the same time."

Yeah a kind of playful mood right? I definitely tried to go for that. Some parts around the track are intentionally playful and 'cute'. Other parts are exciting and intense. Others are just plain happy. And others like the climax at the end is where everything really gets together :P.

"Then at about 1:39 it gets mystical and trippy. It's like the mystical stuff really comes out and it's completely unfathomable to the human mind. Like some backwards dance or like 50% of it is in a non-visible spectrum or a different dimension."

Wow, I basically added that part to showcase what I can do in orchestral since that's the genre I'm strongest at. Never had any of that in mind; but hey, every piece of music communicates uniquely to different people :P. I see it more of an intense and almost dangerous part (like a predator going after its prey or something) rather than a mystical part, but I do see where you're coming from.

"The guitar after the heavy strings is kind of like a gentle, wise, compassionate overview on the whole thing. Then when the drum starts again, it is like you're trying to start the heart beat again by pounding on the chest, and then it starts."

Yeah I can't really make a climax without throwing in a soft part right after haha.

"Some of it is cheeky, too, lol. Like the little melodies that come in 3:30."

Yeah that's some of the 'playful' composition I was referring to!

"It's amazing because it all sort of works together, and the way it is right now all works and you can see how everything fits together. But there are loads of little things that are blatantly trying to change the order of things, too (sometimes despite seemingly overwhelming odds). So it isn't static, it's dynamic."

That's a wonderful compliment, I'm really glad you think so. Diversity is something I consider very important, but the flow and having everything work together is also vital, so learning that I've achieved a great balance between the two makes me get a "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" feeling inside :3.

"And there are some parts that are just enjoying the beauty of the thing, like the chimes at 3:39. They don't really have an agenda."

Mhmm, some of the stuff in there isn't entirely unique. The hints of brass around the song, the chimes, and the strings are probably pretty generic. Although I tried to make most of the sounds have their own personality, if you get what I mean.

Anyway, hope some of that mumbo jumbo I wrote made an inkling of sense, heh. Thanks a million for reviewing, I'm very grateful for it!


ZipZipperZipZipper

Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

I definitely agree with more percussion at that 1:22 point. Amazing melodies and integration of instruments and styles. Definitely has the sound one thinks of when they hear the word ecosystem; a tropical plate with mallets and congas. The piece remained around that idea of like...the Amazon rainforest predominantly. It broke away a bit with the little soloing of the guitar, the bassoon standing out sometimes, and a very faint didgeridoo. I mean, there's more than one kind of ecosystem that isn't the typical tropical scene. I think it would have been very interesting to have a huge, obvious mood change to swamps, deserts, polar regions, or whatever. Then again, you do also note the harmony of things, which is perfectly implemented here. So in a creative sense, I think things could have been different; perhaps an unharmony in terms of moods. But musically, there's nothing really upsetting. Great work!


Step responds:

Wow, thanks for such a detailed review! It's so great to get constructive criticism.

"I definitely agree with more percussion at that 1:22 point."

Good. Considering you agree with it as well, it's clearly something I should definitely consider.

"Amazing melodies and integration of instruments and styles."

That's really great to know. Before this I was doing lots of remixes. I made a whole 8-minute medley of Monster Hunter Tri remixes, an Okami remix and four Metroid remixes so I was afraid that I lost my ability to make entirely original melodies haha. Good to know I can still make good-sounding original stuff after doing so many remixes.

"Definitely has the sound one thinks of when they hear the word ecosystem; a tropical plate with mallets and congas. The piece remained around that idea of like...the Amazon rainforest predominantly."

That's certainly what I was going for!

"It broke away a bit with the little soloing of the guitar, the bassoon standing out sometimes, and a very faint didgeridoo. I mean, there's more than one kind of ecosystem that isn't the typical tropical scene."

Yeah, as I said I wanted to make it diverse, so I threw in stuff like the guitar... and the bassoon to an extent. You almost never hear bassoons in orchestral music here on Newgrounds. It's such a shame, it has a lovely sound. Although I admit, with it being my first time using a bassoon in one of my tracks, I found it pretty hard to get it to fit right.

"I think it would have been very interesting to have a huge, obvious mood change to swamps, deserts, polar regions, or whatever. Then again, you do also note the harmony of things, which is perfectly implemented here. So in a creative sense, I think things could have been different; perhaps an unharmony in terms of moods. But musically, there's nothing really upsetting. Great work!"

Thanks! Yeah I thought of adding a mood change... but the thing about that is that adding mood changes require lots and lots of development and hard work, and this is for a project where I might not have time to take on such an ambitious task of throwing in a mood change.

Although believe it or not I did try and add a mood change in one of my earlier versions of this track. Download this:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9n72tamktmy2umf

It's basically the same up till 1:10 but at 1:10 I threw in a more eerie, mystical mood change. However, I didn't like how it was coming along and almost everyone who heard it said it just doesn't fit and broke the momentum of the track, so I scrapped the whole thing haha. I am a fan of mood changes though; looking back I wish I had more time to make one.

Thanks again for the fantastic review dude!


HipnikDragomirHipnikDragomir

Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

Oh my God

This is an incredible piece. Everything flows very well. Sounds like a mishmash of jungle, outback, and medieval adventure. Really great and memorable tunes. The transitions work just as well. Good job, you. Looking forward to the final song.

Oh, around 1:22 when it starts up again, I was thinking of adding a bit more percussion or something more frenetic sounding.


Step responds:

Hm, interesting idea! At that part I just wanted to repeat the melody that played right before it except developing it a bit more and adding tonnes of background elements and a percussive rhythm. I might try and make it a bit more exciting though, I'll see how that goes!

Thanks a lot for reviewing dude.