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Date
09/02/2012
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Song
12.4 MB
5 min 27 sec
Score
4.39 / 5.00

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Rated 4.39 / 5 stars
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Genres:
Metal, Rock - Heavy Metal
Tags:
metal
progressive
melodic
symphonic

Author Comments

I think I might have come up with something beyond my own expectations this time... O.o
I decided to use every instrument I had available on this one, and as many textures on guitar as I could. I'm pretty happy with how this came out, even though I only had a few days to work on it.

I took a different approach to writing this song, which I find easier now, and wrote all of the instruments to a metronome (changing time sigs. and whatnot) and wrote the drums last. Usually I do the drums first, but it would take so long that I'd end up getting lazy with melodies and rush everything. This way I can get all my melodic ideas out first, while they're fresh haha. I must say, I've learned something this round, that could change my approach to writing! :D

Hope you like the tune, a lot of work went into it the last few days. I seem to work better under pressure for some reason..

*UPDATE*
I made some slight mixing adjustments, and fixed a note or two.

Reviews


BuoyBuoy

Rated 4.5 / 5 stars September 17, 2012

With this song, you've pretty much addressed every issue I had with your previous submission. This has plenty of variation, nothing goes on for too long, and you're using a relatively wide range of instruments. Nice!

I'll talk about the instrumentation first - the guitars, like in the previous submission, sound wonderful, rich and thick, and make a perfect framework for the song. The harmonized lead guitars sounded somewhat out of tune during the first minute, but the rhythm-dominated prog parts later on sound fine in that respect. I can't figure out if that's an organ sound or a harmonized guitar you're using at 2:10, whatever it is I just love it and it reminds me of Riverside. The orchestral sounds are decent but a bit midi-like perhaps, it gives the song a bit of an early Rammstein vibe. I also love the high end grit and bite from the bass guitar, very organic compared to what I'd expect. The mix is great too. It does feel just a bit mushy for some reason, but everything shines through pretty clearly so I can't complain.

The composition is fine and the individual parts sound great - each part is well crafted and has its own character. Unfortunately each part also gives me a feeling that I've heard this style quite a few times already. It's not really a big deal, but the addition of something genre-challenging, something "out there", could make this absolutely top notch.

8.7/10



Back-From-PurgatoryBack-From-Purgatory

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars September 16, 2012

NGADM 2 and stuff.

I love hearing quality metal on the portal. Quality riffing, good progression, and well played. Quite fond of the orchestral elements and the overall theme of the song. I was also very impressed at how well the transition worked at 1:39... It was abrupt, but didn't at all feel out of place, which I find is difficult to pull off.
Although I did hear a few slip ups (Although minor) in the playing, and at the time of my scoring, the mixing in the intro was a little off.. it's fixed now, but I have to mention it here as it made an impact on my score. The acoustic guitar was a little loud, drowned out some of the other elements of the song. And again I would've liked to see a little something more out of the rhythm guitars, but that didn't make much (if any at all) impact on my scoring, as while they're not complicated, it still worked great with the song.

Awesome work, great sound, great melody, some mixing issues (At the time of scoring), a minor slip up here and there, some fret noise and such, but pleasure to listen to. 7.5/10



StepStep

Rated 4.5 / 5 stars September 8, 2012

This is an NGADM Round 2 Review.

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This is fantastic dude. It's a massive shame you got eliminated in Round 2 already. This is a big improvement over your Round 1 submission and your new approach seriously worked well. As a result you've got some great melodic ideas here.

So yeah, starting with the melodies, I'm impressed. It's not often you hear metal with great melodies like this. You've nailed them. I love how you have a main melody which you repeat occasionally throughout the track, especially when you repeated it at the end with the strumming pattern you introduced earlier on in the track. It made for a really epic ending which I think is the best ending this round, so I disagree quite obviously with SkyeWintrest in that department, haha. Sweet riff at 1:38 too and I love how you throw the drum beat in there a little over 15 seconds later. Badass chromatic scale at 2:35

You've also got some good production aspects here. Like in Round 1, you don't cease to impress with your mixing and mastering abilities. I have a few mixing-related issues to bring up later on but apart from those, your mix is very good. Clear and well-defined. And your mastering is great, man. Everything is just the right loudness. Even your waveform looks incredibly clean and doesn't peak over 0 dB for a second. If I had to mention a super small issue on the ending note, it's that you should've left the strings to fade out a little more since they currently just cut off. Nothing big though.

My first complaint is that I felt like you could've done a little more with the song's instrumentation. I'm hearing some strings in there (which, may I add, are a very good addition). It would've been amazing to have a few parts that focus a bit more on strings rather than guitar, and I'm not saying this because I'm more of an orchestral guy, but because I think this song could really do with some of that instrumentation variety. You also introduce a clean guitar at the very beginning (which I really liked). Wouldn't it have been awesome if you were to introduce it later on?

And my other complaint is, as you've read above, mixing-related. I feel that while this is a massive improvement over plenty of aspects of your Round 1 submission, mixing isn't one of those aspects. Your mix is still excellent but it seems to be lacking the raw power that your Round 1 submission had, mainly in the drums. Your drums have a decent amount of power this time round but I'm missing that thump I got from your Round 1 submission. Some parts in this track, especially the part towards the end, could really benefit from said thump. Your drums, however, are very well-made.

All in all, this has its little issues here and there which made me dock a few points, but it's seriously very good, and I believe it even trumps BlazingDragon's track. As talented as he is, this track just has so much more content than his and the ideas here are developed a lot more fully. Keep it up dude!

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SCORE:
8.5/10


Demon-Slayer12 responds:

Well, actually I did add the clean guitar later on, over the main heavy riff at 2:36 and at the end on the same riff. I'm not a keyboard player, so I wouldn't be able to come up with a good string section bu itself haha, besides I wanted the song to build in intensity as it went on and and have an epic finish. That's why in the last riff I added a guitar harmony on top of the strings, bass, rhythm, clean guitar and drums. I guess you're right about the mixing, its hard to mix a song in one day..

I could have made everything perfect, but time is the enemy. You need a week to mix a song, for sure.

I wish everyone felt the same as you, but I guess no one wanted a metalhead to win this competition..haha

Thanks for the review, maybe you'll see me again next year, maybe not... (probably not) haha
Cheers!


BrokenDeckBrokenDeck

Rated 4 / 5 stars September 5, 2012

The mixing in this good. However, the rhythm (acoustic) guitar sounds more pronounced than it should be
in the beginning. I liked the orchestra instruments near the end however, that gives it an orchestral metal feel to it.


Demon-Slayer12 responds:

Cool, the clean guitar might have been a bit loud, but it sounded fine to me haha. Symphonic stuff is new for me, but I've wanted to add that element for a long time.

Thanks for the review BrokenDeck!


SkyeWintSkyeWint

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars September 5, 2012

Here is your personal review for round 2 of the NGADM! Keep in mind, this review will be harsher than the round 1 review! I will be poking at songs more in each consecutive round, because it will naturally be more difficult to advance.

The Good:
-Great development for the first minute and a half. It's very nice.
-At about 2:36, that's a really nice transition to what I had heard beforehand. It sounds very cool. Speaking of which, all your transitions are a LOT better in this song than in the last. Thank you very very much for that! -so sayeth the Transition Critic-
-Cymbal rolls at around 3 minutes in are very tasteful. I like them a lot.
-Nice guitar playing throughout the whole song, I can definitely tell you know how to do it.
-Around 4:25, I really like the atmosphere you make.

The Not-So-Good:
-At about 1:38, you might have wanted to keep a tiny bit of sound in my right ear so my right ear isn't awkwardly strung out to dry without anything to listen to.
-You seem to have a habit of repeating phrases for extended periods of time when they could have been done better.
-Eventually the distortion gets a tad annoying on the high notes.
-After 4:30, I don't particularly like the harmony in the main tune. It seems a bit awkward.
-Could have used a better outro. It ALMOST seems like you more ran out of ideas and just decided to cut it off before people figured that out.

Overall: Much, much better than your song in the previous round. Unfortunately, it does still have quite a few issues that need to be worked out. I will give it a 7.5/10.


Demon-Slayer12 responds:

I respect your opinion, but there was no comments on the production of the tune. Its as if all the work that went into mixing and mastering went unnoticed. 1:38 is also a very common thing in metal that I particularly like, and I thought the ending was suitable as well. Ah well, that's why metal is an underground thing.. :P