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Ayaklanma Bok (RAC 2012)

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Uploaded
Mar 3, 2012 | 10:48 PM EST
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3.7 MB
3 min 14 sec
Score
4.52 / 5.00

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Rated 4.52 / 5 stars
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Genres:
Other - Miscellaneous
Tags:
experimental
turkey
rac
saz

Author Comments

You can find the finalized (better) version of this song on my Bandcamp: http://rahmemhotep.bandcamp.com/album/societal-antiquity

Hello! This is my submission for the RAC competition of 2012! This year I represent Turkey and boy do I love this country!

Instruments used: Baglama saz, bass guitar, electric guitar, voice.
DAWs: FL Studio 9, Audacity.
Electronic instruments: Darbukator lite, Sytrus, FPC.

Research/influence music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYIotGLRPCc maNga-Ueryan Geldim (I have the album)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W502NHmwQwY Zuelfue Livaneli-Ueryan Geldim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzvrQS_UOI&feature=artist Ahmet Koch-Hersheyi Yak (I have the Saganak album, too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsVUfiGuJmU Izzet Yildizhan-Diyar Diyar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moiOirbfQRw Erkin Koray-Estarabim (of course)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9CPnfoS5VY Well, Bengi Baglama Uechluesue in general

Also, a good man with the name, "patukuzunkol," on YouTube, who's videos helped me get started playing on saz to begin with. If it weren't for the Turkish bands/artists I listen to I'd have no idea how to pronounce Turkish letters and what have you.

I could post more, but I don't want to go overboard...

This song is about the separatists that are trying to break Turkey apart. There's a lot of info out there, but I'll link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KurdishÃf¢EU"Turkish_conflict

Lyrics: Ayni ulustan insanlar. At the same nationalities
Ben kalmak istiyorum. I want to stay.
Onlar savash istiyor. They want war.
Ben birlik istiyorum. I want unity.
Onlar sava sava. They fight wars.
Refah bir arazi ichin zararlidir. Detrimental to a land of prosperity.

(chant) Ayaklanma bok. Onlar sava sava. Revolt of crap. They Fight wars.
(over chant) Ayaklanma bok. Onlar sava sava. Refah bir arazi ichin zararlidir.

Now, "Revolt of crap," sounds a little harsh, but it's catchier than, "degersiz Ayaklanmasi," which is, "worthless revolt." I also know that, "At the same nationalities," isn't always the case, since there are Kurds involved in many countries, but I wanted to hit on that point. In any case, this song is obviously me lamenting about the situation in southern Turkey.

I could've had a Turkish guy do all the translation for me, but I wanted to do everything myself so I used Google. :P

*If you are familiar with Turkish you will notice that certain Turkish symbols do not work on Newgrounds. That is why I have had to compensate with extra letters or replacements.

EDIT: I won first place!

Reviews


Jewelz123Jewelz123

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars

Ye man, you've captured the feel of instruments nicely. Only thing I'd say specific about the composition itself is to give the Saz more melodies and have it do more. Saz is where it's at when it comes to Turkish music. Not sure if you used a synth for that or recorded / sampled a real one? Either way, nice job :)


Rahmemhotep responds:

I play saz for real. I own a long neck (baglama) and a short neck (chogur). This song was played on chogur saz.


TruBluFoxxTruBluFoxx

Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

Love it. The whole feel is awesome. I like the instruments, and the chant. It kinda sounds like something from the Battlefield 2 (original for pc) soundtrack.

Unlike zigzag, I like the guitar. The ambient/distorted feel is like that used in "Dunkelheit", and other songs from the early days of black metal.


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Rahmemhotep responds:

Fuck yeah. Early black metal \m/


xxxZigZagxxxxxxZigZagxxx

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars

Hey Rahmemhotep

I see that you are very interested with Turkish culture. I'm wondering whether you actually are Turkish, which might have made it easier to create that style of music. But either way, the instruments sound very true to traditional style. I'd say that up to 1:10 it is very serene and nice.

After that, distorted guitar is added, which I did not like that much. It seems like the proportions/levels are incorrect, or that the EQ is wrong, or something that makes it jarring to listen to. The way you put the Turkish voices in was good too, though.

This is very emotional and has a certain angsty vibe to it, probably indicative of the subject matter you are addressing. I thought that from 2:45 onwards, with the distorted riff, it was a rough patch for me. I think you might need to up your skill on mixing/mastering a bit for you to fulfill the intent of what you are trying to bring.

Overall, this is an emotional story-based song about war, unity, dissonance, and revolt. It is quite harsh and has a distorted vibe to it, which I think could be improved.

Thanks for letting me listen:
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Beauty: 5.5/10
Skill: 6.5/10
Intent: 8/10
Dynamics: 7.5/10
X-Factor: 7.5/10
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Overall: 35/50 (70%) [B-]


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Rahmemhotep responds:

No, I'm not Turkish, I just have an intense desire to learn about the world, its music and cultures. Turkey is one of my favourite countries musically, because it's extremely unique and has tons of different styles. Even Turkish black metal sounds different from Nordic/Scandinavian black metal.

I love the guitar just the way it is. I made it sound the way I wanted to hear it, a bit dissonant and with a ambient room filling feel about it. It's definitely got rock distortion on it. I'm guessing you'd like something more smooth sounding like death metal distortion... Anyway, I think it sounds great, lol.

I also have the distorted saz sounding just the way I want it to. I could have softened it with reverb, yes, but I didn't, simply because I didn't want to muck up the sound.


Adam-BeilgardAdam-Beilgard

Rated 5 / 5 stars

Pretty incredible. It tells a convincing story with more than just the lyrics (which I, and most others here can't understand) which is an accomplishment in itself. But combine with the translation, and we see something come to life that is bigger than the sum of its parts.

I almost can't actively listen to this because I start envisioning some kind of movie with oil fields, and men in thobes and tagiyahs and foreign military and soon the piece is over and I'm left wondering what happens next.

Not a part of this I didn't like!


Rahmemhotep responds:

Thanks bro! That means a good bit coming from a great composer like you!


CoopCoop

Rated 4 / 5 stars

This piece reminds me of System of a Down. Mind you, since they are Armenian, there is a little cultural influence from around that area of the world, I suppose.

A lovely blend of pace, with the various instruments. I may not be the world's biggest fan of the "metal" guitars over the top of the track, as it just seemed to detract from the qualities presented by the rest of the instruments and indeed the vocals altogether.

The piece is bossed by the Baglama saz and the way that the vocals blend nicely with that really sets the tone, leaving the bass and electric guitar to bring the piece a little modern twist. Perhaps a little light percussion could be encouraged into the piece, giving some other dynamic to the track, supporting the piece as a whole?

This is the sort of thing that contests are made for - something unusual, that can leap out of the website, for the viewing public and also the judging panel. I hope it does / did well.

[Review Request Club]


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Rahmemhotep responds:

You're not the first one to say they don't like the distorted parts. Since my music is based in experimentalism you're going to find things that people think are weird or don't belong, like the scream at the end of The Pain. This being said, more than anything it is part of my vision as an artistic statement, contrasting the beauty we have these harsh things going on. It's influence was from Anatolian rock and Turkish metal bands. I actually couldn't write the vocals before I put that part in, because it puts in a dynamic that helps fill out the track and set the tone for that part. Plus, if you didn't notice, when that part ends the echoes of the distorted guitar are clean to show change. Some people want it to stay pretty, like you, but I want it to bare it's teeth a bit to show anger in sadness. So where you see detraction, I see compliment, depth and thought.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with the, "light percussion," bit. Send me a PM if you'd like to explain.

Thanks for the review!