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This is for the Orchestra Mac12 Jan/Feb - /bbs/topic/1287744

So this is my first track of 2012! Yay! So I thought to myself since the year 2012 is so popular for being our last year, then why not make my first track all about that.

For this I was looking for a sort of disaster sound, which was one of the hardest things I stupidly decided to do. However, although the entire track was to represent megasized chaos I did want to dive into a sort of survival sound, because that's what it's all about, surviving the entity which causes the threat. What that threat is, I'll leave to your imagination. Because of the nature of genre, I wanted things to twist, turn, stun and clash, yet then be able to come together. It proved troublesome, but so much fun ( I can say that now that's done!" lol)

Theres a full orchestra running here with aggressive percussion to cause a bit more drama and some choirs here and there to emphasise scale of events which take place illustrating the impending doom. You may find that you need to turn up your volume, my mastering is a bit poor and I can't seem to get things loud without distorting the sound.

I've heard some excellent tracks in the OrchMac12 so far, with some stunning compositions from great artists, and as I've read more to come! If you haven't heard about the OrcMac then there's still time to enter! The final date is Feb 15th. All the best to all the involved artists!

Thanks for listening!
P.S. My computer hated me for this project.

So some people are messaging me via PM and reviews asking what are you hearing being here is a quick list. Keep in mind, EVERYTHING is layered, so anytime you hear something it's no doubt sharing the spot with something else, even if its like two trombones from different packages, etc. I feel like it widens the sound, even if it puts insane stress on RAM and CPU (which both were maxed). But that's just my opinion, ive heard some amazing things withour layering, and it might be the reason why i have mastering problems.

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Rated 5 / 5 stars

Brilliant. Exiting. Multiple progressions. You sir are a first class artist, both in music and out. I still say your best off in music, and would love at one point to commision a piece from you for a commercial game, but thats long off.


Rated 5 / 5 stars


Seriously man, WOW. You've definitely got this MAC in the bag, just like last year! This just sounds so good; so professional. I was honestly left with my jaw dropping at the end of this. And even though last year's insect oriented track was absolutely brilliant, I think this one is even better. Excellent work.

Right then, to start off... in terms of experience, this track certainly delivers. I've probably had the best experience listening to this track than I did when listening to other MAC tracks. This just sounds so moving and so powerful. You painted a picture of a world-ending apocalypse so vibrantly into my head that I'm pretty sure I felt my heart-rate increase to twice the BPM of this song.

And the percussion... wow. In last year's track I think I complained about the percussion lacking in low-end power. That certainly isn't present here. The percussion made the piece so much more dramatic and it makes earthquakes petty in comparison. I particularly liked the little cymbal (or shaker, not sure) pattern at 2:40 and 4:09. They may have been a subtle addition but they somehow really increased the intensity of the parts they play in.

Composition-wise, I feel that you didn't focus as much on the composition as you did on the atmosphere. While you've got a brilliant atmosphere featuring, among others, heroic, apocalyptic and tension-filled moods, the composition felt a tad bit uninspired. It's not as much of a problem as it sounds though because this doesn't feel as much of a composition-oriented track as it does an epic representation of the apocalypse.

Instrumentation was absolutely brilliant. I'm hearing a full use of orchestra, except woodwinds which were a bit lacking in this, although I don't think it'll be that easy to add that many woodwinds. Perhaps you can add a few flute glissandos and trills to increase intensity a little, but other than that there's not much you can do with woodwinds I think.

I really love the orchestral effects you put all over the place, such as at 3:27. The grating noise of the rising violin scratches, choir effects and cymbal rolls really brought out the desperation in this track. Also, I love the part at around 1:19 - 1:52. You're really good at those dramatic tension-filled cues, and just hearing it takes me back to those moments in a film where the sound effects and voices are entirely muted while the camera pans around in slow motion at a scene of destruction. You know, thinking about it, you'll probably make a very good film scorer :P.

The transitions are sublime, and I really don't have any complaints at all here. You glide so effortlessly from one song section to another that it's unreal. The transition to softer part towards the beginning of the track was absolutely excellent, and transitions like those are hard to pull off so I commend you on that. However, the best transition in my opinion would most likely be the one at 2:40. Adding that little break at 2:38 was a great idea and it really made for an epic transition. Just hearing the cool drum line and the brass and strings playing that heroic melody just made me feel awesome inside for no reason at all...

The intro was excellent. You started off with an engaging dissonant string/brass buildup, and then got straight to the point by adding a fast-paced cue with strings and spine-tingling brass hits. You slowly added more instruments and set the mood brilliantly. The ending was a little abrupt, but I understand the effect you were going for, and anyway the cool vocal effect and double bass note gave a nice, satisfying ending.

Overall, this is a hell of a good track. I was going to add another paragraph talking about the mood-changes because I felt that there was a little too much epic and not enough of other moods, but it's not that much of a problem anyway. You've really outdone yourself this time, and I'll be very surprised if you don't get first place. And if you don't make it into the top 8, I will start a lawsuit the judges :3. In all seriousness, brilliant job and keep it up!


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Rated 5 / 5 stars

Fantastic piece, really captured the idea, I thought.

From one OrcMac composer to another, may I ask what sounds these are?

PeterSatera responds:

Absolutely, it's actually very similar setup to AI: Evolved. I'll edit my comments as im getting a few PM's asking me too. :)


Rated 5 / 5 stars

Ok so i'm thinking about entering the MAC12... but it will be hard competing against hans zimmer disguised as this guy :P yeah u are that good. well done

PeterSatera responds:

lol, if only I could find out what he used for his drums back in the Crimson Tide, The Rock days, nobody seems to know.

You should enter though! Competing is fun, but it really gives me an excuse to just get down to it and make something. :)


Rated 5 / 5 stars

Engaging, extremely well mastered. The opening brass hits sound almost a bit too high velocity-wise...

One thing I would have expected is a lot of tremolo strings, but, forgive me if I am mistaken, I didn't hear any. The vocals are great... EWQL, I presume? You have a sort of call thing going on around 2:10... might be better to have those quarter-notes coming out from different pans (left-right) for more contrast.

You have that epic feeling down really well, great work on that! It flows well, but consider some lower cymbal rolls or gong rolls for a more epic feel.

At the finale (4:33), I feel as if more could have been given. The issue with having a song so epic the majority of the time is that finales are hard. Consider a full chorus in at that point singing a counter-melody of some sort (perhaps rest-F#-G#-A for the first measure) and strings doing whole notes as well, just to put as much noise in there as you can and to make it feel as "full" as possible. Perhaps even marching cymbal crashes on the 2,3,4 beats or something. As I said to others before, don't be afraid to break out a gong... it lends a great epic feel.

Strings- consider all sorts of sixteenth-note arppegios climbing all over the place and descending/ascending lines, although I like those root-root-fith-fith (or whatever you did there with the marcato strings) sixteenths too.

Brass sounds great, as a trombonist, I fully endorse it! :P

Just don't be afraid to make your bassline (tuba or double-bass) louder... or maybe that's just my speaker setup.

If you have any vibraphone or waterphone instruments, here's the place to use them. Also, anvils might be a good addition if you want that sort of ringing hit.

As for mastering, may I suggest writing everything at half-volume (if you have a master volume slider control for the whole piece, drop it down so your waveform only goes about half-way to full) and write there, then boost it up as needed later and, if REALLY necessary, use a light compressor if you want a loud mix, although that can cut back on nice sharp percussion sometimes.

A great piece, one of the best so far!

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PeterSatera responds:

Hey Samulis, thanks for the review! You're right about alot of things, such as the additional percussion would have added some variety. And maybe I could have changed it up at the end to give us a newer sorta theme to emphasise the climax. I actually did add almost every VST that I had running at the time to play something, so my layering might just be poor. The velocity at the beginning was intentional, and I've heard it done before in some scores that I have and for that fact I wanted to maybe give it a shot myself where the stac's just interupt everything.

I actually do write everything really quiet and master up. In fact when doing so i nearly deafen myself when a sudden noise from any other app hits me. I know it's not an excuse but I do have sound card issues, being that it just doesn't f**king work anymore. So when sound was mobo direct, which sounds soooo awful.

I should have added a waterphone. This was a perfect opportunity too! Argh!
Thanks so much for your review, it helps me improve so much! :)